Take Over

[Boothy]

4 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

I'm Ken, and so is the next poster 

Yes I Ken

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 minutes ago, irvtheswerv said:

https://www.gov.uk/liquidate-your-company/creditors-voluntary-liquidation

Ken can close it down if he wants to. Decides club can't pay its debt, can't meet its obligations. Only needs 75% of shareholders to agree this and he's got 94.5%.  We can't stop him if that's what he wants to do. 

Think H put this up previously. 

Just seems bloody perverse when another entity is prepared to pay everyone in full, that this route can be followed whereby not everyone does. (Whether or not there actually is another entity is a different matter!).

[WestStandUpper]

Right @Howardroark, come back now... everyone’s hissy fits have died down.

tell us everything will be okay and your boys are gonna swoop in on Tuesday at 4.30pm?

[Zico]

[Duck Egg]

3 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

Right @Howardroark, come back now... everyone’s hissy fits have died down.

tell us everything will be okay and your boys are gonna swoop in on Tuesday at 4.30pm?

Better still, stay where you are and come back at 4.45pm on Tuesday when you've done the deal.

Can't be doing with another 3 days of innuendo and 3-2-1 bollocks

[Burndens Bogs]

4 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

Right @Howardroark, come back now... everyone’s hissy fits have died down.

tell us everything will be okay and your boys are gonna swoop in on Tuesday at 4.30pm?

Where's that Cuckoo emoji when you need it?

[Boothy]

2 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Where's that Cuckoo emoji when you need it?

https://images.app.goo.gl/xzYXfmj6n97J3Fg49

[DavidLeesMullet]

On 02/02/2019 at 21:04, deane koontz said:

gary megson is part of this consortium.

Please say you're joking, he was a shit manager, so it fills me with dread to think what he could do in the boardroom. Ginger Morinho my arse!!! 

[RatchetMan]

4 minutes ago, DavidLeesMullet said:

Please say you're joking, he was a shit manager, so it fills me with dread to think what he could do in the boardroom. Ginger Morinho my arse!!! 

 

Hes deadly serious, Dougie Freedman is rumoured to be involved alongside also

[DavidLeesMullet]

Jesus H. Tap-Dancing Christ, why don't we get Neil Lennon involved too and have the full triumvirate of twats!!! 

[MickyD]

@DavidLeesMullet 

You speak of Megson as a shit manager. Where do Little Sammy Lee, Owen Coyle, Dougie Freedman, Neil Lennon and Phil Parkinson fit on your scale of good and bad managers?

Megson wasn't a shit manager, he was just a shit public relations guy. He lost the supporters almost before he arrived but as a manager, he's the best we had since Allardyce. 

[DavidLeesMullet]

To be honest Sammy Lee didn't haven't much time in charge, neither did Jimmy Phillips. 

As for the others they had time in charge but achieved absolutely nothing.

3 minutes ago, MickyD said:

@DavidLeesMullet 

You speak of Megson as a shit manager. Where do Little Sammy Lee, Owen Coyle, Dougie Freedman, Neil Lennon and Phil Parkinson fit on your scale of good and bad managers?

Megson wasn't a shit manager, he was just a shit public relations guy. He lost the supporters almost before he arrived but as a manager, he's the best we had since Allardyce. 

 

[WestStandUpper]

6 minutes ago, MickyD said:

@DavidLeesMullet 

You speak of Megson as a shit manager. Where do Little Sammy Lee, Owen Coyle, Dougie Freedman, Neil Lennon and Phil Parkinson fit on your scale of good and bad managers?

Megson wasn't a shit manager, he was just a shit public relations guy. He lost the supporters almost before he arrived but as a manager, he's the best we had since Allardyce. 

Agreed. He did a good job for us, signings were very good (except Elmander). 

Lennon was just dealt a bad hand I think, he would have been ideal in a better situation.

I wanted Coyle to succeed, but it didn’t work out.

Oh & Dougie is a cunt. Probably the biggest cunt of all, ever, except Ken.

[lofthouse]

2 hours ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

I’m not the most clued up on the financial side, but could it be that that liquidation is Ken’s plan and Bassini has only come about as his name is already mud?

That way, Ken can claim that Bassini is at fault for the deal falling through and divert any potential blame, and state that liquidation is the only option at such a late stage  

if I’m talking nonsense please ignore. 

If it could be that Anderson would be better off  liquidating. How would that work  ? Is it like an auction ?i thought the ground couldn’t be sold,or has to be kept as a football ground.. the car parks are owned by mark James . Maybe the training ground is where the profit  is ..

[SilentBob]

Just now, WestStandUpper said:

Lennon was just dealt a bad hand I think, he would have been ideal in a better situation.

Agreed. He gets a bad rap because of the collapse, but I think when he came in he had us playing some decent football. 

Doesn't help that he probably got promised the world and got left with loan/free defenders that would be lucky to play non-league. 

[Casino]

5 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

Agreed. He did a good job for us, signings were very good (except Elmander). 

Lennon was just dealt a bad hand I think, he would have been ideal in a better situation.

I wanted Coyle to succeed, but it didn’t work out.

Oh & Dougie is a cunt. Probably the biggest cunt of all, ever, except Ken.

Coyle is the king of cnuts 

Relegated us with a team not good enough for division 2, while paying the 12th biggest wage bill in the league

A charlatan and a twat

Edited April 5, 2019 by Casino

[mickbrown]

Dougie is my shittest of our many  shit manager.

He was the shit coated cherry on the top of the turd cake

[Youri McAnespie]

Dougie fancied us as a Catenaccio side,  unfortunately we were Cattycrappio.

Looking at the positives, Sammy Lee didn't really have much time in charge.

Edited April 5, 2019 by Youri McAnespie

[wakey]

5 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Dougie is my shittest of our many  shit manager.

He was the shit coated cherry on the top of the turd cake

absolutely. In a rogue's gallery post Sam, Dougie managed to stand out as a cunt even against the likes of Megson.

Bit of a shortest midget parade though - we've had some shite over the last decade or so.

[WestStandUpper]

What he did to SKD was unforgivable.

All his interviews and comments spouting contradictory shite like ‘I never sign players from old clubs i’ve been at’ then signed fucking Garvan & Moxey.

Just thinking about the twat makes me angry 

[wakey]

Just listened to the Bassini interview. Can't see any way this is happening unless he's fronting for someone, but still begs the question why chose this joker?

But if it's all a charade, begs the question why? Is he doing it just for some weird craving for publicity or is it all in someone else's interests.

All very strange.

[Sluffy]

6 hours ago, Mantra said:

Forgive me Sluffy, but there's been a lot of figures put on here and even though I have read through the thread and do recall the 8 million figure, it is hard to keep everything in context.

You also said it was a guess, which is why I questioned it. I don't actually remember H clearly stating that they require the full 8 million owed, I must've missed that. I do remember H stating Bassini offered 2 mill but that wasn't enough but that 12 million might be. 8 million is between those figures, which is why I assumed it to be a guess.

In hindsight I should've read your post more carefully as you did say "either H's clients have been paid for the shares" but I've been skim reading today, so I apologize for wasting your time.

However, I'm not sure why you have called me out twice now, with the caveat of "no offence" when it's your clear intention to tell me off. In future, leave out the "no offence" remark, because I can handle your passive aggressive comments without you trying to sugarcoat it. There have been far more repetitive questions than the ones I have asked, and the only reason you seem to be targeting me and not them is because I "claim" to have read the thread, which many have not. And I don't blame them as it is a bit of a car crash and I've seen so many figures on here and a fair amount of them have been disputed and argued over, it's hard to know what is a fact.

Thank you for the explanation, you seem a nice guy and I imagine you're probably as frustrated as H going over the same ground, but not everyone has been here since the start like you, whilst it has given me clarity, playing catch up has also caused a fair amount of confusion.

I'll put this as simply as I can.

The whole bloody reason for Howard to appear on this forum was to tell us a story that his client was to buy the alleged £8m loan debt from Moonshift, serve a 14 day notice on Anderson and take control of the clubs shares - and hence the club itself.

He told us this countless times through the best part of a month whilst he's been on here ffs!

There's only really two key numbers to remember during the whole period whilst H has been here...

- the £8m required to pay off the loan (if Anderson had some how managed to pay it off he is free to sell the club to who he wants and when he wants - providing the club is not trading when it is insolvent)

- and the 14 day notice to take on the ownership of the shares - if payment of the £8m hasn't been paid by the end of the 14th and last day of the notice at 5.00pm (apparently the last possible bank transfer of such as sum can only be done up to 4.30pm).

Believe Howards narrative or not, but without those two key figures he hasn't a story to tell!

How could you possibly not have grasped this by now irrespective of when you joined the discussion???

[irvtheswerv]

26 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

Dougie fancied us as a Catenaccio side,  unfortunately we were Cattycrappio.

Looking at the positives, Sammy Lee didn't really have much time in charge.

Sammy Lee was a useless twat as manager. Saw him in the spread eagle on a Wednesday night with the whole squad, they were all arseholed. Funnily enough we lost on the Saturday. 

[Casino]

19 minutes ago, WestStandUpper said:

What he did to SKD was unforgivable.

All his interviews and comments spouting contradictory shite like ‘I never sign players from old clubs i’ve been at’ then signed fucking Garvan & Moxey.

Just thinking about the twat makes me angry 

Super Kevin Davies should've been binned off by Coyle but he didn't have the bollocks

Then Davies and his media savvy wife played the media

[Mantra]

3 minutes ago, Sluffy said:

I'll put this as simply as I can.

The whole bloody reason for Howard to appear on this forum was to tell us a story that his client was to buy the alleged £8m loan debt from Moonshift, serve a 14 day notice on Anderson and take control of the clubs shares - and hence the club itself.

He told us this countless times through the best part of a month whilst he's been on here ffs!

There's only really two key numbers to remember during the whole period whilst H has been here...

- the £8m required to pay off the loan (if Anderson had some how managed to pay it off he is free to sell the club to who he wants and when he wants - providing the club is not trading when it is insolvent)

- and the 14 day notice to take on the ownership of the shares - if payment of the £8m hasn't been paid by the end of the 14th and last day of the notice at 5.00pm (apparently the last possible bank transfer of such as sum can only be done up to 4.30pm).

Believe Howards narrative or not, but without those two key figures he hasn't a story to tell!

How could you possibly not have grasped this by now irrespective of when you joined the discussion???

I shall put this as simply as I can:

Regardless of those being the most important things to remember, it doesn't mean that there haven't been plenty of other figures and statements thrown around - which makes it confusing.

As I said - Howard mentioned Bassini offering 2 million to delay the share recall. He also said this wasn't enough to persuade his men, but 12 million would be. Those are the figures he quoted for the compensation package. 2 million and 12 million. At no point can I recall Howard saying that they'd accept 8 million, feel free to prove me wrong.

Your 8 million figure relates to how much that debt was initially worth, which in my mind was separate figure to the 2 million and 12 million Howard mentioned.

Now, can we move on from this because this is possibly the most tedious conversation on the whole forum and I don't wish to bore everyone.