Who’s in?  Not had one for 10 years (s*** fan), but 100% this time.  Don’t know what you’ve missed until it’s (almost) gone.

14 minutes ago, Traf said:

I don't buy into the atmosphere claim, either.

Keep all top tiers open, but screen off all bar the centre block(s).

You then get all the upper tier concentrated into one section, which would improve atmosphere up there, you'd need fewer stewards etc and only need one kiosk open.

Sounds like a plan ......maybe with fv it might be given some consideration

 

Are the kiosks ran by the club?

I would have thought they were subbed out

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Are the kiosks ran by the club?

I would have thought they were subbed out

Club controlled next season

2 hours ago, Traf said:

I don't buy into the atmosphere claim, either.

Keep all top tiers open, but screen off all bar the centre block(s).

You then get all the upper tier concentrated into one section, which would improve atmosphere up there, you'd need fewer stewards etc and only need one kiosk open.

That was my first thoughts back when the idea of upper closures were mentioned. Remember Huddersfield had advertising draped over their seats in the corners of the lower tier, probably for the same effect of massing supporters together for atmosphere behind the goal.

 I think it would be a bad idea to completely mothball any of the tiers, whatever they decide to do, they'll not please everyone.

Don’t know what looks more tinpot

grounds with empty tiers or closed ones with advertising sheets draped about 

Agreed, the sheets and flags are embarrassing.  Re the sparsity of upper tiers, the NSU is by far the most populated of the 3, every match.  At a rough guess half full on average compared to maybe 30% in West and 20% in East (would be interested to see real figures, if only S/T breakdown).  I don't see any justification for closing NSU, especially as you want to create an atmosphere in the 2nd half attacking that goal, why remove part of that atmosphere and scatter it around the ground (or worse, give them a reason not to attend).  If we are shutting any, it has to be East, the least populated

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Agreed, the sheets and flags are embarrassing.  Re the sparsity of upper tiers, the NSU is by far the most populated of the 3, every match.  At a rough guess half full on average compared to maybe 30% in West and 20% in East (would be interested to see real figures, if only S/T breakdown).  I don't see any justification for closing NSU, especially as you want to create an atmosphere in the 2nd half attacking that goal, why remove part of that atmosphere and scatter it around the ground (or worse, give them a reason not to attend).  If we are shutting any, it has to be East, the least populated

we were looking from ESL yesterday, we reckoned about 15% full in WSU, around the same in NSU. Obviously couldnt see ESU, but worrying if its less than the other 2.

Winning football puts bums on seats. Next season we are winning the league - keep the top tiers open

42 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

we were looking from ESL yesterday, we reckoned about 15% full in WSU, around the same in NSU. Obviously couldnt see ESU, but worrying if its less than the other 2.

Happy to be proved wrong but NSU looked nearer 30% full than 15% (that would only be 300 - far more than that surely).  And surely there's 1000 in WSU?  I'm guessing about 400 in ESU normally from TV pics etc.  Someone will have the S/T figures on which to base the decisions.

Can't see WSU but N & ESUs are certainly nowhere near a third full. My guess is anout 10%. Very difficult to justify keeping them open really but at a pinch, one of the W or E stands. I get that the WS is the main stand but for me, the one to stay open would be the ESU as every game ends up on TV for at least the highlights and having a completely empty ESU just looks a bit small-time.Encourage those in West to venture to the East for a change.

5 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Can't see WSU but N & ESUs are certainly nowhere near a third full. My guess is anout 10%. Very difficult to justify keeping them open really but at a pinch, one of the W or E stands. I get that the WS is the main stand but for me, the one to stay open would be the ESU as every game ends up on TV for at least the highlights and having a completely empty ESU just looks a bit small-time.Encourage those in West to venture to the East for a change.

I don't like the argument that it would look better on TV full stop, but how many League Two matches do Sky show per season?

As for the higlights on Quest and Youtube, the camera angle means that the upper tiers aren't shown at all.

I’ve enjoyed being in the NU for last 8 seasons. Perfect seats 4 rows back behind goal. Family stand been perfect for boys, although now they’re getting older number one vacates his seat for crazy corner and number 2 probably not far off doing the same. While I’d be disappointed having to give seats up it certainly wouldn’t stop me going, wherever I sit. I’m definitely of the opinion we’ll be there regardless 

49 minutes ago, MickyD said:

Can't see WSU but N & ESUs are certainly nowhere near a third full. My guess is anout 10%. Very difficult to justify keeping them open really but at a pinch, one of the W or E stands. I get that the WS is the main stand but for me, the one to stay open would be the ESU as every game ends up on TV for at least the highlights and having a completely empty ESU just looks a bit small-time.Encourage those in West to venture to the East for a change.

Who cares whether we look small time? 

We're heading to league two 

2 hours ago, Biggish Dave said:

Winning football puts bums on seats. Next season we are winning the league - keep the top tiers open

If we are winning next season we might well have more on than this season. 

12 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If we are winning next season we might well have more on than this season. 

We would 

but it will still be half empty 

13 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

We would 

but it will still be half empty 

Preston had 12500 on yesterday and you don’t see them shutting stands down. 

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Preston had 12500 on yesterday and you don’t see them shutting stands down. 

No, but they have no tiers.

And a higher turnover.

Edited February 2, 20206 yr by Lt. Aldo Raine

32 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

No, but they have no tiers.

And a higher turnover.

And Hemmings is a billionaire. 

59 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

No, but they have no tiers.

And a higher turnover.

Rich owner apart, how does their income compare to outgoings?

Wages will be far in excess of ours.

I’m surprised how much people care about these closures that sit lower tier

My only concern is possibly having some upper tier oik foisted on me

There's nothing worse than having upper tier supporters sat around you in the lower tiers, bemoaning to sit down & the like, piss off back to the uppers 😂

1 minute ago, BOWTUN BAKED said:

There's nothing worse than having upper tier supporters sat around you in the lower tiers, bemoaning to sit down & the like, piss off back to the uppers 😂

And spilling flask coffee all over you, whilst blowing their nose on the same 3 day old tissue.

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

And spilling flask coffee all over you, whilst blowing their nose on the same 3 day old tissue.

& tripping over their knee blankets whilst your trying to get by for your half-time pint

5 minutes ago, tomski said:

I’m surprised how much people care about these closures that sit lower tier

So you expect the upper tier folk who are being relocated will be happy ( some after 22 seasons of ST purchase) to just fill in the gaps where there aren't currently tickets sold? 

I think they'll expect to be placed as high up the stadium as is available to them. That'll be row z of the lower tiers. Problem is, folk already sit in those rows. 

Or maybe you don't think having a few thousand upper tier supporters squeezed into the lower tiers will impact on those of us already there.

You know where I used to sit for many years. What happens if the club offers my old seats to the new folk coming down from above? Would I be right to kick off, claiming I ought to have first refusal? Because I think I would be.