Mental Health/Depression

[Big E]

8 minutes ago, burnden said:

Bold move this ....

 

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/dec/09/psychedelic-drug-dmt-to-be-trialled-in-uk-to-treat-depression?

There is a podcast (Drug science Podcast i think) that discusses this stuff. It is such an interesting subject. The MDMA treatment is fascinating. a lot of red tape to stop progression which prevents getting the information to finalise whether its good or bad.

[Zico]

4 minutes ago, Big E said:

 whatever happened to the mad russian wife? 

she's still on the scene

her bloke on the side knocked it on the head at the start of lockdown much to her annoyance, dunno if it's still a thing or not though

her husband suggested she goes move in with him, but she stayed put

they bascially appear to be tolerating each other for now

[burnden]

1 hour ago, Big E said:

There is a podcast (Drug science Podcast i think) that discusses this stuff. It is such an interesting subject. The MDMA treatment is fascinating. a lot of red tape to stop progression which prevents getting the information to finalise whether its good or bad.

Will check that out , cheers E.

[Rudy]

1 hour ago, Big E said:

There is a podcast (Drug science Podcast i think) that discusses this stuff. It is such an interesting subject. The MDMA treatment is fascinating. a lot of red tape to stop progression which prevents getting the information to finalise whether its good or bad.

I did some MDMA in sankeys about 10 years ago, never been the same since 

[Escobarp]

14 minutes ago, Rudy said:

I did some MDMA in sankeys about 10 years ago, never been the same since 

We put a load in a joint years ago with some weed and one of the lads was mangled so we said smoke this it will bring you down. Cruel really 

[boogs]

14 minutes ago, Rudy said:

I did some MDMA in sankeys about 10 years ago, never been the same since 

Was at a festival once and whilst the MDMA was being passed around us my mate was in the middle of eating an apple so sprinkled a load on it and carried on eating it. I can’t work out whether that would improve the taste or not, I found it to be an odd way of consuming your drugs though😂

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, boogs said:

Was at a festival once and whilst the MDMA was being passed around us my mate was in the middle of eating an apple so sprinkled a load on it and carried on eating it. I can’t work out whether that would improve the taste or not, I found it to be an odd way of consuming your drugs though😂

Play Russian roulette with pills at bbq’s. Shove a couple in one burger or sausage cook the lot and just make everyone eat one.  Then sit back and watch. 
 

doesn’t help mental health or depression right enough but it is funny as fuck unless you end up eating them 

[boogs]

26 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Play Russian roulette with pills at bbq’s. Shove a couple in one burger or sausage cook the lot and just make everyone eat one.  Then sit back and watch. 
 

doesn’t help mental health or depression right enough but it is funny as fuck unless you end up eating them 

Haha. One lad said he was getting an early night once when we were all away, “one last rum before bed??” To which he obliged so a pill got crushed and mixed into it. Half an hour or so later all we heard was an angry cry of “for fuck sake you bastards!!!” as he started to come up whilst lay in bed 😂

[Rudy]

4 hours ago, Escobarp said:

We put a load in a joint years ago with some weed and one of the lads was mangled so we said smoke this it will bring you down. Cruel really 

Mate the worst I’ve ever been is in Basel, bought some weed off a guy in a bar, went to roll up and it was sparkling bright white, bottom of the bag was a load of unknown dust, still smoked it. I have no recollection of the next 48 hours. Would love to See the footage 

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Mate the worst I’ve ever been is in Basel, bought some weed off a guy in a bar, went to roll up and it was sparkling bright white, bottom of the bag was a load of unknown dust, still smoked it. I have no recollection of the next 48 hours. Would love to See the footage 

When you think about it it’s unreal the shit I/we put in my body without a second thought. Could be anything. 
 

fun though 😁

[Burndens Bogs]

Just say no.

[royal white]

A few of us went to Tenerife 3 years ago, my mate was on MDMA every night, long story short he started hearing voices. At the airport he was convinced he could hear sloth (he has a look of him) shouting “hey you guys” over the tannoy and apparently it was me that had planned it. I could see him slowly losing it, anyway queuing up to board and “Whack” he fucking belts me. Now this cunt is 18st, my eyes split open blood pissing everywhere. Obviously aircrew don’t want to let us on the flight. Pilot comes out to talk to me and we are eventually let on, my mate at the back me at the front. I rang his missus (fucking massive round ones)  to let her know he has lost the plot but she thinks it’s my fault and I’ve been winding him up. I get a taxi home his missus picks him up. She realises after she has picked him up that I was telling the truth as he is telling her I had the whole plane up shouting “sloth sloth sloth” at him and I have electrocuted his case 🤦‍♂️ 3 days later he was still adamant that it was me getting everyone to shout sloth, he got his missus to e mail ryan air to complain (obviously she didn’t). Ended up with my missus (decent size losing shape) telling him he’s a fucking knob and listen to what he’s saying. I spoke to a specialist last year and mentioned what happened  and he said my mate will still believe eveything he said happened actually happened. Scary shit 

Edited December 10, 2020 by royal white

[Big E]

6 hours ago, burnden said:

Will check that out , cheers E.

Found it really interesting. You have to go back to the first one and go from there 

[Rudy]

23 minutes ago, royal white said:

A few of us went to Tenerife 3 years ago, my mate was on MDMA every night, long story short he started hearing voices. At the airport he was convinced he could hear sloth (he has a look of him) shouting “hey you guys” over the tannoy and apparently it was me that had planned it. I could see him slowly losing it, anyway queuing up to board and “Whack” he fucking belts me. Now this cunt is 18st, my eyes split open blood pissing everywhere. Obviously aircrew don’t want to let us on the flight. Pilot comes out to talk to me and we are eventually let on, my mate at the back me at the front. I rang his missus (fucking massive round ones)  to let her know he has lost the plot but she thinks it’s my fault and I’ve been winding him up. I get a taxi home his missus picks him up. She realises after she has picked him up that I was telling the truth as he is telling her I had the whole plane up shouting “sloth sloth sloth” at him and I have electrocuted his case 🤦‍♂️ 3 days later he was still adamant that it was me getting everyone to shout sloth, he got his missus to e mail ryan air to complain (obviously she didn’t). Ended up with my missus (decent size losing shape) telling him he’s a fucking knob and listen to what he’s saying. I spoke to a specialist last year and mentioned what happened  and he said my mate will still believe eveything he said happened actually happened. Scary shit 

Haha fuckin class. Mad those disco biscuits. I’ll stick to my weed and alcohol, oh and my annual magic mushroom 😁

[stevieb]

I did LSD a couple of times at uni. Once at the warehouse project at Boddingtons

Never took the world too seriously since. Absolutely mind blowing. 

Can definitely see how it would help people depressed etc. As it just opens up your mind. 

Would reckon you'll be prescribed a micro dose so that you aren't writing "acid is motown" all over your student digs and drinking tea with 9 sugars in it though. 

[gonzo]

There was spate of folk selling that DMT a while ago. The spirit drug or God it gets called as well as it can take you to meet the big man himself.

Might have a bash and ask him how he managed to create a world that has had 5 apocalyptic events that have killed all species on earth including the most recent with dinosaurs and still manage to crack it with humans. 

Thats some perseverance. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

There was spate of folk selling that DMT a while ago. The spirit drug or God it gets called as well as it can take you to meet the big man himself.

Might have a bash and ask him how he managed to create a world that has had 5 apocalyptic events that have killed all species on earth including the most recent with dinosaurs and still manage to crack it with humans. 

Thats some perseverance. 

Ask him if its worth putting a few quid on us being promoted please.

[Spider]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Ask him if its worth putting a few quid on us being promoted please.

Mounts is your man for predicting the future 😊

[Escobarp]

15 hours ago, royal white said:

A few of us went to Tenerife 3 years ago, my mate was on MDMA every night, long story short he started hearing voices. At the airport he was convinced he could hear sloth (he has a look of him) shouting “hey you guys” over the tannoy and apparently it was me that had planned it. I could see him slowly losing it, anyway queuing up to board and “Whack” he fucking belts me. Now this cunt is 18st, my eyes split open blood pissing everywhere. Obviously aircrew don’t want to let us on the flight. Pilot comes out to talk to me and we are eventually let on, my mate at the back me at the front. I rang his missus (fucking massive round ones)  to let her know he has lost the plot but she thinks it’s my fault and I’ve been winding him up. I get a taxi home his missus picks him up. She realises after she has picked him up that I was telling the truth as he is telling her I had the whole plane up shouting “sloth sloth sloth” at him and I have electrocuted his case 🤦‍♂️ 3 days later he was still adamant that it was me getting everyone to shout sloth, he got his missus to e mail ryan air to complain (obviously she didn’t). Ended up with my missus (decent size losing shape) telling him he’s a fucking knob and listen to what he’s saying. I spoke to a specialist last year and mentioned what happened  and he said my mate will still believe eveything he said happened actually happened. Scary shit 

🤣🤣. One of our lads had a similar losing the plot experience in Benidorm. Far too many pills. Ended up with me being woken up to come and take look at him. Sat in corner of the room with a ridiculous look on his face muttering under his breath calling everyone cunts.  Who’s a cunt? They are. Dirty cunts. no sense whatsoever. Next thing he’s up and saying he’s going to sort it out. So we all follow along and he goes to a mini market  round the corner and starts going through the oranges in a box. Takes a few to the counter and starts telling the guy behind the till he knows what he’s done . We had no idea what he was on about. He proceeded to tell the guy that he knew they had Been siphoning the juice out of them and he knew it involved microwave ovens. He didn’t quite know how they had done it but he was onto them. We had to drag him out before he smacked the shop keeper 😃

 

When he got home he was that bad his missus took him to the hospital. Proper blew a fuse. That was about 15 years ago and to this day he’s never spoke to any of us since and has never fully recovered. Soft cunt 

[deane koontz]

That'll save me going to a ayahuasca retreat.

[Rudy]

6 hours ago, gonzo said:

There was spate of folk selling that DMT a while ago. The spirit drug or God it gets called as well as it can take you to meet the big man himself.

Might have a bash and ask him how he managed to create a world that has had 5 apocalyptic events that have killed all species on earth including the most recent with dinosaurs and still manage to crack it with humans. 

Thats some perseverance. 

How much pal?

[Escobarp]

@Rudy  do you get tested at work at all? And how often in reality do the players get tested?

[Escobarp]

Many years ago drug testers turned up at warrington rugby league. 8 first teamers were smuggled away from the ground under blankets etc in the youth team minibus. 
 

used to be a massive recreational issue in RL. Obviously was and still is a huge issue in relation to PED’s

[royal white]

2 hours ago, Escobarp said:

🤣🤣. One of our lads had a similar losing the plot experience in Benidorm. Far too many pills. Ended up with me being woken up to come and take look at him. Sat in corner of the room with a ridiculous look on his face muttering under his breath calling everyone cunts.  Who’s a cunt? They are. Dirty cunts. no sense whatsoever. Next thing he’s up and saying he’s going to sort it out. So we all follow along and he goes to a mini market  round the corner and starts going through the oranges in a box. Takes a few to the counter and starts telling the guy behind the till he knows what he’s done . We had no idea what he was on about. He proceeded to tell the guy that he knew they had Been siphoning the juice out of them and he knew it involved microwave ovens. He didn’t quite know how they had done it but he was onto them. We had to drag him out before he smacked the shop keeper 😃

 

When he got home he was that bad his missus took him to the hospital. Proper blew a fuse. That was about 15 years ago and to this day he’s never spoke to any of us since and has never fully recovered. Soft cunt 

😂😂😂

[Rudy]

23 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

@Rudy  do you get tested at work at all? And how often in reality do the players get tested?

No I don’t thank god but it would only be THC what would show and I wouldn’t fail for that. 
They’re always tested and it’s random but a player is probably tested 4 times a year, more on international duty. 
The list is widely produced what they can’t have, A class drugs obviously. Performance enhancing steroids, blood doping, but even the over the counter stuff, creatine, high mg glucose tablets, weight loss tablets. You might remember Kolo Toure taking his wife’s diet pills so he could make weight that he’d been set. Which he still didn’t 😂.

Caffeine can cause anomalies which is why a lot of players don’t touch it unless it’s decaf. Taurine is a bad one you usually find it in energy drinks, I’m sure WADA were putting Taurine on the list, which they used to get from bulls testicle, hence red bull, but it’s synthetically made now. 
Players usually get any medication even if it’s flu medicine from the club doctor who in the PL will be a WADA approved doctor, there’s very little players getting positive tests.