birch-chorley Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, stevieb said: Big question... Not done any research... Not trying to be tinfoil Why isn't this killing millions of folk in Africa when they drink puddle water for their morning brew? I remember thinking it would be rife down there in march but not heard a peep since. Guessing but probably because of age demographic’s On average Africans die much younger anyway, of other viruses that they aren’t vaccinated against (inc Flu) so they have much smaller vulnerable groups with Covid If we didn’t have a flu vaccine our life expectancy would be much lower Quote
Zico Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, stevieb said: Big question... Not done any research... Not trying to be tinfoil Why isn't this killing millions of folk in Africa when they drink puddle water for their morning brew? I remember thinking it would be rife down there in march but not heard a peep since. Its a good question At the beginning I thought once it took over it would let rip But read the other day that Senegal, for example, were on it from the off https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/world-africa-54388340 They've had more diseases to deal with than most i guess And hardly any resident chinks Quote
birch-chorley Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, stevieb said: Big question... Not done any research... Not trying to be tinfoil Why isn't this killing millions of folk in Africa when they drink puddle water for their morning brew? I remember thinking it would be rife down there in march but not heard a peep since. This covers it https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54418613 Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, stevieb said: Big question... Not done any research... Not trying to be tinfoil Why isn't this killing millions of folk in Africa when they drink puddle water for their morning brew? I remember thinking it would be rife down there in march but not heard a peep since. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54418613 Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, stevieb said: Big question... Not done any research... Not trying to be tinfoil Why isn't this killing millions of folk in Africa when they drink puddle water for their morning brew? I remember thinking it would be rife down there in march but not heard a peep since. They're Vitamin D' d up to the max. Apparently Masai tribe are brimming with it. Bbc thinks these are the reasons https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-54418613 Quote
stevieb Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 3 people posting the BBC link. I've read that. Climate... Parts of Australia are in the strictest of lockdown and have been for 200+ days Anyone based in Africa that can give us first hand accounts of what lockdown measures look like, how they are being adhered to etc? Anyone got JJ or Quinton Fortunes number? Quote
Casino Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Pretty sure exeter is near the top of the infection league Happy to be shown otherwise but if not, why arent they tier 2? Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, stevieb said: 3 people posting the BBC link. I've read that. Climate... Parts of Australia are in the strictest of lockdown and have been for 200+ days Anyone based in Africa that can give us first hand accounts of what lockdown measures look like, how they are being adhered to etc? Anyone got JJ or Quinton Fortunes number? Staying indoors, poor ventilation, lots of travel, obesity are 4 things that I bet are not so prevalent in Africa compared to other continents. I doubt its genetic because Black folk aren't showing that elsewhere, so you'd think it must be the circumstances. Being outside in the sun a lot, in the countryside, not travelling around so much, living in a draughty building without double glazing and aircon is pretty much what you'd prescribe as preferential circumstances. But who knows. Theres next to nothing happening in Tokyo, everyone, and I mean everyone wears a mask. Quote
stevieb Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, peelyfeet said: Staying indoors, poor ventilation, lots of travel, obesity are 4 things that I bet are not so prevalent in Africa compared to other continents. I doubt its genetic because Black folk aren't showing that elsewhere, so you'd think it must be the circumstances. Being outside in the sun a lot, in the countryside, not travelling around so much, living in a draughty building without double glazing and aircon is pretty much what you'd prescribe as preferential circumstances. But who knows. Theres next to nothing happening in Tokyo, everyone, and I mean everyone wears a mask. So if I twat the sunbeds I'll be alright. Vitamin d is the only difference between Horwich and Africa? Quote
stevieb Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, stevieb said: So if I twat the sunbeds I'll be alright. Vitamin d is the only difference between Horwich and Africa? I live in a draughty 1920s terrace by the way Quote
Zico Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Staying indoors, poor ventilation, lots of travel, obesity are 4 things that I bet are not so prevalent in Africa compared to other continents. I doubt its genetic because Black folk aren't showing that elsewhere, so you'd think it must be the circumstances. Being outside in the sun a lot, in the countryside, not travelling around so much, living in a draughty building without double glazing and aircon is pretty much what you'd prescribe as preferential circumstances. But who knows. Theres next to nothing happening in Tokyo, everyone, and I mean everyone wears a mask. I've been to Tokyo and I'd imagine those pachinko arcades would've been rife Shutting them down would've been the equivalent of a total alcohol ban over here Edited October 13, 2020 by ZicoKelly Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, stevieb said: So if I twat the sunbeds I'll be alright. Vitamin d is the only difference between Horwich and Africa? They don't travel so much, have shit houses, work outdoors al lot more. And in Africa it's even worse. Bdum tish. Quote
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Staying indoors, poor ventilation, lots of travel, obesity are 4 things that I bet are not so prevalent in Africa compared to other continents. I doubt its genetic because Black folk aren't showing that elsewhere, so you'd think it must be the circumstances. Being outside in the sun a lot, in the countryside, not travelling around so much, living in a draughty building without double glazing and aircon is pretty much what you'd prescribe as preferential circumstances. But who knows. Theres next to nothing happening in Tokyo, everyone, and I mean everyone wears a mask. Masks just seem such an obvious way to mitigate the spread to me. It's surely significant that people in Far Eastern countries just know to wear one, and think nothing of it. Re obesity: I remember reading that Japan has a massively lower obesity rate than European countries do. I can't help but think that's a big deal. Quote
buckhurstwhite Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: obesity are 4 things that I bet are not so prevalent in Africa Plenty of over weight people in Nigeria. I reckon they have better immune systems in Africa due to various viruses, typhoid, malaria, yellow fever, etc., etc., which keeps Covid at bay. Only a guess like as god knows what goes on in remote areas as no testing etc., Quote
stevieb Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: They don't travel so much, have shit houses, work outdoors al lot more. And in Africa it's even worse. Bdum tish. I love the 'Bolton is a shit hole' joke. But as a person I respect on this Peely... Why aren't we hearing about it killing loads of Africans. Don't quote the BBC Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, buckhurstwhite said: Plenty of over weight people in Nigeria. I reckon they have better immune systems in Africa due to various viruses, typhoid, malaria, yellow fever, etc., etc., which keeps Covid at bay. Only a guess like as god knows what goes on in remote areas as no testing etc., Yeah, they won't be recording cases like us, and as the demographics are much younger, they'll likely have more asymptomatic too. South Africa, the most westernised country, has by far the highest rates, something in that I guess. Quote
Zico Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, stevieb said: I love the 'Bolton is a shit hole' joke. But as a person I respect on this Peely... Why aren't we hearing about it killing loads of Africans. Don't quote the BBC They are used to disease Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, stevieb said: I love the 'Bolton is a shit hole' joke. But as a person I respect on this Peely... Why aren't we hearing about it killing loads of Africans. Don't quote the BBC Personally mate I think they have a vastly less mobile population, and its the fact that they're younger, slimmer and spend more time outside in the sun, and less time in enclosed spaces. Travelling around is how this is spread. If everyone stayed in their own village for several weeks, this would die off. If there were no transport around the world, it would have ended in Wuhan. Edited October 13, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
Rudy Posted October 13, 2020 Author Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, stevieb said: I love the 'Bolton is a shit hole' joke. But as a person I respect on this Peely... Why aren't we hearing about it killing loads of Africans. Don't quote the BBC Geldof innit Quote
stevieb Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Personally mate I think they have a vastly less mobile population, and its the fact that they're younger, slimmer and spend more time outside in the sun, and less time in enclosed spaces. Travelling around is how this is spread. If everyone stayed in their own village for several weeks, this would die off. If there were no transport around the world, it would have ended in Wuhan. So it's all about how slim how everyone is from compared to here to wuhan how quick this spreads! The virus adds another string to its bow. Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, stevieb said: So it's all about how slim how everyone is from compared to here to wuhan how quick this spreads! The virus adds another string to its bow. Urbanisation mate. Living in a village in the middle of nowhere with shit transport links, with your 200 cousins is going to give you a better chance of not catching a disease than going to work in Manchester 5 days a week, your kid going to school with 600 other kids, going to the pub that had 150 people in throughout the day, popping in to Tesco on the way home, getting your hair cut, taking your son to football training, etc etc. Africa's population is more non urban than any other continent. And yes, weight makes a difference. More fatties die than thinnies Edited October 13, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
tyldesley_white Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 So after j&j stopped there stage 3 trails (temporarily ) yesterday, Eli Lilly have halted there antibody trial today over safety concerns. As you were Quote
stevieb Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Urbanisation mate. Living in a village in the middle of nowhere with shit transport links, with your 200 cousins is going to give you a better chance of not catching a disease than going to work in Manchester 5 days a week, your kid going to school with 600 other kids, going to the pub that had 150 people in throughout the day, popping in to Tesco on the way home, getting your hair cut, taking your son to football training, etc etc. Africa's population is more non urban than any other continent. And yes, weight makes a difference. More fatties die than thinnies Peely I love your view on this.. Post me the Africa cases v population and then post v deaths Total Africa volume of deaths! 🤣 Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, stevieb said: Peely I love your view on this.. Post me the Africa cases v population and then post v deaths Total Africa volume of deaths! 🤣 Cant find an Africa total. Cases aint worth measuring in most of Africa, well not if you want to compare against Non African countries, because they've not tested enough. Deaths per million, there's only South Africa over 100, and they're on 300. Most African countries are under 20. UK is 633. Considering moving to Tanzania for safety purposes. Edited October 13, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote
Zico Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Cant find an Africa total. Cases aint worth measuring in most of Africa, well not if you want to compare against Non African countries, because they've not tested enough. Deaths per million, there's only South Africa over 100, and they're on 300. Most African countries are under 20. UK is 633. Considering moving to Tanzania for safety purposes. As Mariah Carey once said of Africa "I'd love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff" Quote
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