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Posted
2 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

Circuit Breakers happening in Northern Ireland, possibly Wales, I wonder if we will follow or not?

Boris was just questioned at PMQs about a report in the Telegraph today that the chance of a Circuit Breaker for England is about 80% .....He replied that he rules out nothing.

Posted
1 hour ago, Spider said:

They have the advantage of being an island, and have effectively "Hibernated" their population quickly as soon as they've been able.

I'm not giving up on this.

See all that sea surrounding us?😀

Posted
4 minutes ago, burnden said:

Boris was just questioned at PMQs about a report in the Telegraph today that the chance of a Circuit Breaker for England is about 80% .....He replied that he rules out nothing.

I think it's highly likley, and half term might mean less disruption for some, so wouldn't surprise me if that's the plan. 

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

Circuit Breakers happening in Northern Ireland, possibly Wales, I wonder if we will follow or not?

Meanwhile in New Zealand - no cases in the community for 18 consecutive days - 6 deaths in 6 months, folk filling up sports stadiums, everyone going to work and school, folk getting their medical operations sorted.  

6 weeks of restrictions since the begining of June. 

This is what a zero tolerance, early reaction policy is looking like at the moment. Theyve had outbreaks and quashed them every time, as I'm sure they will continue to do.

We could have done this in Summer, a few more weeks lockdown, no international holidaying, proper policing of quarantines, attacking the remaining cases, but we didn't.

Spain was strict lock down for months, didn’t work there, totally different NZ and Northern Europe, you cannot compare. 

Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Tbf itd be the same in any city or town the night before a proper lockdown..

 

 

And it was.....I see the nice brown lads playing cricket in the street down south got some nice covereage!!!

Edited by Pablo
Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Spain was strict lock down for months, didn’t work there, totally different NZ and Northern Europe, you cannot compare. 

Spain was strict lockdown after the spread Mounts, NZ was before,  timing is key - it wasn't their fault because they didnt get as much notice as NZ

 - What's so different about New Zealand to Northern Europe?

Edited by peelyfeet
Posted
9 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Spain was strict lockdown after the spread Mounts, NZ was before,  timing is key - it wasn't their fault because they didnt get as much notice as NZ

 - What's so different about New Zealand to Northern Europe?

Population in NZ is bugger all, lots of travel between EU states, while NZ is pretty much isolated and not a major travel hub. It’s a pretty poor comparison. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Population in NZ is bugger all, lots of travel between EU states, while NZ is pretty much isolated and not a major travel hub. It’s a pretty poor comparison. 

Population is nothing to do with it - NZ is  similar to Scotland, with similar international tourism levels, and simialr demographics. 

NZ were initially lucky because they got the spread late - but the level of community spread they had was not much different to the levels we managed to get it down to a month or so after the lockdown finished. but we opened up, went on holiday to Spain, they didn't until the levels were lower.

They've taken a diferent path, and to me,  it looks miles better at the moment and has been for months. We could have tried to do it.

 

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Population is nothing to do with it - NZ is  similar to Scotland, with similar international tourism levels, and simialr demographics. 

NZ were initially lucky because they got the spread late - but the level of community spread they had was not much different to the levels we managed to get it down to a month or so after the lockdown finished. but we opened up, went on holiday to Spain, they didn't until the levels were lower.

They've taken a diferent path, and to me,  it looks miles better at the moment and has been for months. We could have tried to do it.

 

 

They were allowed to travel same as us. People chose to some didnt. Somebody going on a summer holiday is personal choice not the government? 

Posted
1 hour ago, peelyfeet said:

I think it's highly likley, and half term might mean less disruption for some, so wouldn't surprise me if that's the plan. 

 

 

If so, it is a poor plan

Different regions are in different places, it would be madness to put some of the southern rural areas into lockdown when there is virtually no infection. 

Posted
27 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

They were allowed to travel same as us. People chose to some didnt. Somebody going on a summer holiday is personal choice not the government? 

They went to their  alert level 4 (similar to our total lockdown) at 1000 cases in total. Fron April 10th everyone  returning to NZ has had to quarantine for 2 weeks, in goverment managed hotels. https://www.miq.govt.nz

We were allowed to do loads of stuff at 500 cases a day. They would have classed our Summer free period as their highest alert level.

Posted
13 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

They went to their  alert level 4 (similar to our total lockdown) at 1000 cases in total. Fron April 10th everyone  returning to NZ has had to quarantine for 2 weeks, in goverment managed hotels. https://www.miq.govt.nz

We were allowed to do loads of stuff at 500 cases a day. They would have classed our Summer free period as their highest alert level.

And they did that in winter time when the virus is supposed to be at it worst. Soon be summer for them they will be out and about enjoying life

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, peelyfeet said:

Population is nothing to do with it - NZ is  similar to Scotland, with similar international tourism levels, and simialr demographics. 

NZ were initially lucky because they got the spread late - but the level of community spread they had was not much different to the levels we managed to get it down to a month or so after the lockdown finished. but we opened up, went on holiday to Spain, they didn't until the levels were lower.

They've taken a diferent path, and to me,  it looks miles better at the moment and has been for months. We could have tried to do it.

 

 

Of course population and density of that population has some influence on the figures, more movement, more people and many more contacts mean more transmission of the infection and at a greater speed. 

Edited by Mounts Kipper
Posted
31 minutes ago, Spider said:

Prediction time

Circuit Breaker 2 (poss. 3)  week Lockdown will start on 26th October.

 

The day after I can come out of isolation. So yeah defo likely.

Got to feel sorry for parents and kids. Lockdown @ half term also means more folk stuck indoors so prob more spreading in homes?

Posted
33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Of course population and density of that population has some influence on the figures, more movement, more people and many more contacts mean more transmission of the infection and at a greater speed. 

Population density in urban areas, yes, population no. New Zealand aint different to UK, similar % of folk live close together.

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