Rudy Posted October 13, 2020 Author Posted October 13, 2020 It’s all very cunty this criticism of plans One party is doing what they can. It’s the unknown and all the criticism comes in hindsight. It would be the same the other way around and it’s really not a political issue. All leaders , Rushi, and the scientists get in a room and vote anonymously on a plan. Stick to it, review and change if needed. Not time for political division it’s the time for united action Quote
Spider Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 I notice Green hasn’t actually troubled the PM with his thoughts on what WILL work. Easy to snipe from the sides innit ? Quote
Escobarp Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Spider said: I notice Green hasn’t actually troubled the PM with his thoughts on what WILL work. Easy to snipe from the sides innit ? Starmer has done just that and today his first pearl of wisdom is let’s lockdown properly. I think in time history will say he should have shut up. if I was boris I would concede and say ok let’s do it as you wish. Quote
Casino Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Rudy said: It’s all very cunty this criticism of plans One party is doing what they can. It’s the unknown and all the criticism comes in hindsight. It would be the same the other way around and it’s really not a political issue. All leaders , Rushi, and the scientists get in a room and vote anonymously on a plan. Stick to it, review and change if needed. Not time for political division it’s the time for united action Fair enough if you feel they have half a chance of sorting it I dont think they have Id prefer 3 weeks hit to the economy over this drip drip fucking drip Quote
mickbrown Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 16 minutes ago, Escobarp said: So given what you heard on here yesterday about interactions with our track and trace app you think that’s the saviour yes? Sort that we can all get on with life again? would it help? Massively. Are we a nation with significant numbers of bellends and nut jobs that will make it impossible anyway? Absolutely. Doesn't have to be an app. I reckon that's been half the problem to be honest. Trying to centralise it all. Local health authorities should have been in charge. And a properly functioning system would outweigh the effects of the undoubted bellends. Quote
Casino Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 20% of care home residents not tested in last 3 months Govt said all residents and staff would be tested monthly Quote
Spider Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: Starmer has done just that and today his first pearl of wisdom is let’s lockdown properly. I think in time history will say he should have shut up. if I was boris I would concede and say ok let’s do it as you wish. Starmer has at least offered an option on what he thinks we should do. Green is just sulking because he’s out of the spotlight. Personally, I think a lockdown is coming and government are just giving us one last chance to prove we still have the Blitz spirit. Spoiler alert. We haven’t. Quote
radcliffe white Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Fuck off with a circuit breaker Quote
mickbrown Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rudy said: It’s all very cunty this criticism of plans One party is doing what they can. It’s the unknown and all the criticism comes in hindsight. It would be the same the other way around and it’s really not a political issue. All leaders , Rushi, and the scientists get in a room and vote anonymously on a plan. Stick to it, review and change if needed. Not time for political division it’s the time for united action Nah bollox. They've been 'led by science' apparently from the off. Now they're shown they are ignoring the science they need the opposition to hold them to account. That their job. Quote
Guest Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Spider said: Starmer has at least offered an option on what he thinks we should do. Green is just sulking because he’s out of the spotlight. Personally, I think a lockdown is coming and government are just giving us one last chance to prove we still have the Blitz spirit. Spoiler alert. We haven’t. Starmer was saying, only last week, that lockdowns weren’t working. Now he’s all for it, presumably because SAGE said it. premature move from him, I suspect. Not a time for politics, as @Rudypoints out Quote
mickbrown Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Casino said: 20% of care home residents not tested in last 3 months Govt said all residents and staff would be tested monthly They also said we'd have a world beating track and trace system by the end of June. Quote
Casino Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Fuck off with a circuit breaker might be the lesser of two evils Tie it in with zero immigration Should be piss easy Quote
Boby Brno Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 We had a 3 month lockdown. Numbers went down. We came out and they rose again. It happened all over the world. A 3 week lockdown would be useless and economically catastrophic. Quote
Casino Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, mickbrown said: They also said we'd have a world beating track and trace system by the end of June. oh yeah Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider said: Starmer has at least offered an option on what he thinks we should do. Green is just sulking because he’s out of the spotlight. Personally, I think a lockdown is coming and government are just giving us one last chance to prove we still have the Blitz spirit. Spoiler alert. We haven’t. Exactly, but you are not allowed to criticise bozo and pals. You should know that. Quote
Casino Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Boby Brno said: We had a 3 month lockdown. Numbers went down. We came out and they rose again. It happened all over the world. A 3 week lockdown would be useless and economically catastrophic. the scientists disagree Its all very odd Quote
Boby Brno Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Casino said: the scientists disagree Its all very odd Not all the scientists. Quote
Spider Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Casino said: the scientists disagree Its all very odd Scientists aren’t interested in the economy, despite their thin platitudes in that direction at their briefings. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 1 minute ago, mickbrown said: They also said we'd have a world beating track and trace system by the end of June. Stop that now, it’s very unfair to expect them to get a track and trace that works with only 12 billion. Quote
Rudy Posted October 13, 2020 Author Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Nah bollox. They've been 'led by science' apparently from the off. Now they're shown they are ignoring the science they need the opposition to hold them to account. That their job. I think one of the reasons the public ignore advice is because they don’t support the politician who his delivering the advice. It shouldn’t be the case, a top scientist should be the leader of this ungodly mess. We’ll sort out the politics another time. Quote
Guest Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 8 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Not all the scientists. Quite Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Is there any information showing how effective other nations' test track and trace systems are performing? Unfortunately, I've read that systems vary greatly so might be difficult to compare as with deaths/cases, however it still would be interesting to see if anyone manages a significantly highly number of traces. Hancock claimed today that other nations were coming to him and asking how we'd built our system so quickly. Quote
Rudy Posted October 13, 2020 Author Posted October 13, 2020 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Is there any information showing how effective other nations' test track and trace systems are performing? Unfortunately, I've read that systems vary greatly so might be difficult to compare as with deaths/cases, however it still would be interesting to see if anyone manages a significantly highly number of traces. Hancock claimed today that other nations were coming to him and asking how we'd built our system so quickly. Blue Peter Quote
peelyfeet Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 See if you can find Bolton on here. Let me know what you think when you find them. Quote
Zico Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: We had a 3 month lockdown. Numbers went down. We came out and they rose again. It happened all over the world. A 3 week lockdown would be useless and economically catastrophic. it depends if any measures were introduced during that time to make it work on the other side if they just open up again and ease people back into the same situations, then yeah, it probably won't work but if the game is upped in terms of track, trace, test and ensuring covid compliance in places that need to be, we might have a chance otherwise, we just going round in circles till a vaccine, imo Quote
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