Coronavirus

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Joe anderson been arrested on suspicion of bribery

 

[Rudy]

[Burndens Bogs]

57 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Lower than London now. 
Only a matter of time. #tier2

Very nice Rudy !!! Boby b,I remember you saying that our cases would be lower than London’s by the time we entered lockdown and you were right - Kudos.I know the data is a few days out of date, but i find these charts quite interesting. It must be said though that Bolton’s average is considerably higher the  North Wests average.

Edited December 4, 2020 by Burndens Bogs

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49 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Tier 2 - April. Not before I reckon.

They may however change what can and can't be done in T3. Especially when its impossible to keep London out of T3.

god, i hope not

[Boby Brno]

2 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

I remember you saying that our cases would be lower than London’s by the time we entered lockdown and you were right - Kudos.I know the data is a few days out of date, but i find these charts quite interesting. It must be said though that Bolton’s average is considerably higher the  North West average.

Bearing in mind we were the worst in the country, we are now 54th. We had 550 cases per 100,000 on November 1st. We are now at 208 per 100,000. 
It’s all a matter of interpretation of course but we have come a long way since our isolated lockdown. 

[Burndens Bogs]

1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

Bearing in mind we were the worst in the country, we are now 54th. We had 550 cases per 100,000 on November 1st. We are now at 208 per 100,000. 
It’s all a matter of interpretation of course but we have come a long way since our isolated lockdown. 

We’ve certainly moved in the right direction & quickly.Shirley we’ll go into tier 2 at the first review 16th Dec?

[Zico]

3 hours ago, DazBob said:

We had furlough and stuff in place over here to help everyone out and avoid job losses.  Was anything similar put in place in the US?

 

I recall something about everyone getting a $1200 cheque or something

Fed families for a month in Mississippi

Paid a week's rent in NYC

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3 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Dodgy Scouse twat! Up there with Degsy.

Looks like Fred Elliott

 

[Rudy]

[Boby Brno]

9 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

We’ve certainly moved in the right direction & quickly.Shirley we’ll go into tier 2 at the first review 16th Dec?

Over the last week or so, the NW has consistently reduced its rates by over 30% a day. At the same rate we will be the lowest in the country by the 16th. Tier 1?

I hope the government will make a decision before the 16th.

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1 minute ago, Boby Brno said:

Over the last week or so, the NW has consistently reduced its rates by over 30% a day. At the same rate we will be the lowest in the country by the 16th. Tier 1?

I hope the government will make a decision before the 16th.

There ain't no "North West"!

[Boby Brno]

12 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

There ain't no "North West"!

As a means of determining and measuring rates of infection, it’s relevant. 
People are comparing us with a continent. (America) A comparison with a region 200 miles away doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

[Burndens Bogs]

Wonder how Greater Mancs latest numbers look compared to those North West ones?

[Boby Brno]

6 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

Wonder how Greater Mancs latest numbers look compared to those North West ones?

Not exactly what you asked for but near.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/latest-infection-rates-greater-manchester-19404062.amp

Edited December 4, 2020 by Boby Brno

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14 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

As a means of determining and measuring rates of infection, it’s relevant. 
People are comparing us with a continent. (America) A comparison with a region 200 miles away doesn’t seem unreasonable to me.

I agree

but, will the powers that be?

Liverpool are T2, so clearly not obvious we’ll be together

[Burndens Bogs]

Liverpool’s infection rate is now below 100 per 100,000.

[Boby Brno]

36 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

I agree

but, will the powers that be?

Liverpool are T2, so clearly not obvious we’ll be together

Well Bolton’s rate is reducing by 30% daily so whether we are classed as Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire or North West. A decision will have to be made soon.

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12 hours ago, Boby Brno said:

Well Bolton’s rate is reducing by 30% daily so whether we are classed as Bolton, Greater Manchester, Lancashire or North West. A decision will have to be made soon.

The decision will be

Bolton to stay in 3 as despite being way better than london, we cant risk a spike so close to christmas, especially as we are going to move london to tier 1

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My money is on tiers remaining the same 

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You’ve got to hope sense prevails. People have done what’s asked and cases are well down. 

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12 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

You’ve got to hope sense prevails. People have done what’s asked and cases are well down. 

The problem is that theres only so much that folk can do and the triggers are unclear

The get out will always be nhs capacity being stretched

So an area that has been neglected could have the lowest infections, lowest R,  but no NHS capacity

In fact, theres been plenty times NHS capacity has been brought up, is manchesters hospital open again, or did they remember we cant staff it

I dont think theres a chance in hell boltons pubs are open in december

Id be happy with restaueants, but theyll be shut as well

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Casino said:

The problem is that theres only so much that folk can do and the triggers are unclear

The get out will always be nhs capacity being stretched

So an area that has been neglected could have the lowest infections, lowest R,  but no NHS capacity

In fact, theres been plenty times NHS capacity has been brought up, is manchesters hospital open again, or did they remember we cant staff it

I dont think theres a chance in hell boltons pubs are open in december

Id be happy with restaueants, but theyll be shut as well

All valid points. this is the problem there is no exact science for getting out of a tier.
i hope you’re wrong though and folk are given a bit of leeway and touch of normality this side of Xmas 
 

 

[Rudy]

Is there any proof that the pubs opening led to more cases?

[Boby Brno]

30 minutes ago, Casino said:

The decision will be

Bolton to stay in 3 as despite being way better than london, we cant risk a spike so close to christmas, especially as we are going to move london to tier 1

Very cynical. 😊 
As London and other places open up the rates will probably flatten and then rise again. Based on previous trends, I’d expect most places to be in Tier 2. It’s just a matter of when. Pressure should be brought to bear now to equalise the situation across the country. 
If not, then Burnham is right. More financial help for the hospitality industry in Tier 3. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Rudy said:

Is there any proof that the pubs opening led to more cases?

Just let me delve into the track and trace system as stats for a second