Coronavirus

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Can't you sort a zoom piss up?

Get a delivery from a local brewery and arrange a time with like-minded individuals. Hardly ideal, but might break the monotony.

I’m still recovering from 6 cans of DIPA on Tuesday.

[Farrelli]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It isnt.

Just been an explanation whereby the virus may still be 'caught' and multiply in the nose and possibly throat. Then expressed in the usual way. You won't become ill from it but may still spread it.

Personally, I dont understand that, as I would have thought the antibodies would nobble it and prevent it multiplying, but those that do know, say differently. 

I said spreading was an unknown factor in my earlier post. An expert explained that on newsnight last night. The key thing is that immunisation is about 90% effective. Anyway this seems to be a moot point as when most people get the vaccine  infections will drop drastically so it will do the job of defeating this thing🙏

[Escobarp]

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It isnt.

Just been an explanation whereby the virus may still be 'caught' and multiply in the nose and possibly throat. Then expressed in the usual way. You won't become ill from it but may still spread it.

Personally, I dont understand that, as I would have thought the antibodies would nobble it and prevent it multiplying, but those that do know, say differently. 

Thank you. So she was right then in what she said. 

[Escobarp]

39 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

Your not confused. JVT confirmed during the briefing that there is no firm evidence yet that, although people will be protected with the vaccine, they could not transmit it. 

  Cheers boby. Let’s hope it’s just a case of there being a lack of evidence to confirm it 

[Not in Crawley]

Very odd in Central London today, its pretty empty, but all the usual Christmas wizz bangs are up, Thursday night two weeks before Xmas it should be uncomfortably heaving. 

[MickyD]

55 minutes ago, gonzo said:

51 covid deaths at Blackpool Vic this week.

Bit shit that isnt it.

How many were fit 20 - 50 age group? Hospitals are still labelling deaths as Covid despite, in many cases, Covid being the least of their worries. 
 

Hypothetical Example: 84 year old cancer patient catches Covid19 and dies.

Death due to the cancer that has pretty much been hanging over him for the last four or five years or death due to Corona Virus that has been hanging over him for a couple of weeks?

I’m not saying Covid had nothing to do with the resultant death but I reckon being ravaged by the cancer had a massive part in it.

[Boby Brno]

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

  Cheers boby. Let’s hope it’s just a case of there being a lack of evidence to confirm it 

No problem. Lots of nonsense being spouted. Saw this earlier that explains how the vaccine works.

From this it’s apparent that the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus entering the body. If it’s in the body, it’s possible, in theory to then spread it. 

‘When the vaccine enters cells inside the body, it uses this genetic code to produce the surface spike protein of the coronavirus.

This induces an immune response, priming the immune system to attack coronavirus if it infects the body.’

 

[Escobarp]

Just now, Boby Brno said:

No problem. Lots of nonsense being spouted. Saw this earlier that explains how the vaccine works.

From this it’s apparent that the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus entering the body. If it’s in the body, it’s possible, in theory to then spread it. 

‘When the vaccine enters cells inside the body, it uses this genetic code to produce the surface spike protein of the coronavirus.

This induces an immune response, priming the immune system to attack coronavirus if it infects the body.’

 

This ties in exactly with krankies statement then. 
 

it all baffles me. I always thought a vaccine meant you couldn’t catch something. It clearly means different in some cases despite our expert posters protestations otherwise. 
 

im sure the apologies will be forthcoming my way this evening 👍🏼 Shall go and get a beer and wait 

[birch-chorley]

Just an assumption but if someone is immune and they ‘catch’ the virus then their viral load of COVID will be low as the virus struggles to replicate (because the host is immune) 

The lower the viral load the harder it is to pass it on to another person, if it is passed on then the exposure would be massively reduced and the viral load in the new host will start off smaller giving them a better chance of fighting it naturally 

Part of the reason healthcare workers have been hit hard is the fact that they are generally exposed to large viral loads 

Edited December 3, 2020 by birch-chorley

[kent_white]

5 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

No problem. Lots of nonsense being spouted. Saw this earlier that explains how the vaccine works.

From this it’s apparent that the vaccine doesn’t prevent the virus entering the body. If it’s in the body, it’s possible, in theory to then spread it. 

‘When the vaccine enters cells inside the body, it uses this genetic code to produce the surface spike protein of the coronavirus.

This induces an immune response, priming the immune system to attack coronavirus if it infects the body.’

 

It's possible to spread it absolutely. But less likely. If you're vaccinated then your immune system will start attaching the coronavirus as soon as it enters your body. So it will find it harder to replicate. So you'll be carrying less COVID around and for a shorter period of time. 

[Boby Brno]

Just now, kent_white said:

It's possible to spread it absolutely. But less likely. If you're vaccinated then your immune system will start attaching the coronavirus as soon as it enters your body. So it will find it harder to replicate. So you'll be carrying less COVID around and for a shorter period of time. 

Pretty sure that’s what JVT said. But he couldn’t give an absolute assurance. The same thing that Sturgeon was saying. It’s a new vaccine so caution is obviously needed. 

[Spider]

27 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

This ties in exactly with krankies statement then. 
 

it all baffles me. I always thought a vaccine meant you couldn’t catch something. It clearly means different in some cases despite our expert posters protestations otherwise. 
 

im sure the apologies will be forthcoming my way this evening 👍🏼 Shall go and get a beer and wait 

No no no

Its

”Thank me later”

 

anyway, where is @miamiwhite? Has his foot fell off?

Edited December 3, 2020 by Spider

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

No no no

Its

”Thank me later”

 

anyway, where is @miamiwhite? Has his foot fell off?

He’s climbing the wall

[Escobarp]

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

No no no

Its

”Thank me later”

 

anyway, where is @miamiwhite? Has his foot fell off?

Cats got his tongue 

[deane koontz]

Even with the vaccine will it still be masks and varying degrees of precautions for years to come?

Apologies, I know nowt 

Edited December 3, 2020 by deane koontz

[Boby Brno]

11 minutes ago, deane koontz said:

Even with the vaccine will it still be masks and varying degrees of precautions for years to come?

Apologies, I know nowt 

During the briefings, sometimes it’s the small, throwaway remarks that can mean the most. When Boris was asked the same question, he said something along the lines of ‘masks could become the new norm, like South East Asia.’

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

During the briefings, sometimes it’s the small, throwaway remarks that can mean the most. When Boris was asked the same question, he said something along the lines of ‘masks could become the new norm, like South East Asia.’

 

Aye, he was asked to clarify it later: I dont think there was anything hugely medical in there more a cultural reference- JVT commented too about his Japanese heritage and how its become customery as a means of not spreading coughs and colds.

It might catch on here a tad, but can't see it being remotely mainstream. Still loads can't be arsed at the virus' zenith. 

[radcliffe white]

Can’t wait to get shut of the bloody mask 

[deane koontz]

13 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

During the briefings, sometimes it’s the small, throwaway remarks that can mean the most. When Boris was asked the same question, he said something along the lines of ‘masks could become the new norm, like South East Asia.’

 

Aye. the vaccine is great news obviously but was a bit wary when i heard folk the other day going on like it's the golden bullet to have things back how they were pretty much immediately. Like i say though i know nowt haha.

[miamiwhite]

51 minutes ago, Spider said:

No no no

Its

”Thank me later”

 

anyway, where is @miamiwhite? Has his foot fell off?

Don't even start numbnuts, you've had more drubbings recently than Celtic.

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Don't even start numbnuts, you've had more drubbings recently than Celtic.

None spring to mind.

Hows your foot, sicknote?

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Spider said:

None spring to mind.

Hows your foot, sicknote?

it's as sore as you when the temps hit 60 degrees.

[Spider]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

it's as sore as you when the temps hit 60 degrees.

Wishing you a speedy recovery luv. 
 

Is it gout?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

it's as sore as you when the temps hit 60 degrees.

Haha.

I nearly joined you t'other day- stamped on a piece of palet trying to make some kindling. It didn't fucking break!

 

[miamiwhite]

Just now, Spider said:

Wishing you a speedy recovery luv. 
 

Is it gout?

That's what you get mate, mine is an actual fracture.