Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

So arsenal players self isolating not sure how this works 

they met this geezer on the 27th of last month and played 2 games since 

if that’s the case they should call the next couple of games off going off guidelines 

 

Backdating it so they've done 13 days already - except they've not been isolated. Nonsense. Get them tested - I bet none of them have it. 

9 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Backdating it so they've done 13 days already - except they've not been isolated. Nonsense. Get them tested - I bet none of them have it. 

Common sense

 

14 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Common sense

 

Olympiakos squad all tested negative and had much more recent contact - so I really don't see reason for cancelling this game - Arsenal should have tested squad first - trying to backdate an isolation is bonkers - especially if nobody is showing symptoms. 

1 hour ago, Spider said:

As an aside, I don't feel well.

That has been evident for a number of weeks now matey. Electrodes on the temples time for you methinks.

42 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Olympiakos squad all tested negative and had much more recent contact - so I really don't see reason for cancelling this game - Arsenal should have tested squad first - trying to backdate an isolation is bonkers - especially if nobody is showing symptoms. 

Wonders why they cannot play the kids or those not in self isolation

1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Backdating it so they've done 13 days already - except they've not been isolated. Nonsense. Get them tested - I bet none of them have it. 

Makes senses, I suppose they would still have postponed the game until results were back, but on the face of it, a strange approach.

5 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

So arsenal players self isolating not sure how this works 

they could play up front for us

or sit in the upper tiers

One MP self isolating.

A couple suffering in the chamber yesterday.

6 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Backdating it so they've done 13 days already - except they've not been isolated. Nonsense. Get them tested - I bet none of them have it. 

Aye, what’s point of self isolating if you ain’t got it?

2 hours ago, ZicoKelly said:

they could play up front for us

or sit in the upper tiers

I’m chucking used snot rags onto the peasants below on Saturday 

Just now, mickbrown said:

I’m chucking used snot rags onto the peasants below on Saturday 

Bovril harbours the virus.

That's about 20% of the upper folk gone.

Seems to me that most people won’t even get it.

I reckon shoving all the money at test centres is the best solution to keeping people in work.

Had 2 self fucking isolators already at our place.

This share has done ok from the virus, formulating some kind of vaccine in time

 

https://www.lse.co.uk/rns/TILS/tzls-501-covid-19-95gh5z92rtjuukx.html

35 minutes ago, Spider said:

Seems to me that most people won’t even get it.

I reckon shoving all the money at test centres is the best solution to keeping people in work.

Had 2 self fucking isolators already at our place.

We've had one......and I could have told you last week which member of staff it would be.

 

As an aside, I had a meeting with a bloke yesterday, after an hour of the meeting, he decided to tell me that he'd only returned from a week in Pisa, seeing his Dad, a few days before. It's turds like him that will spread it......so should I or should I not be self isolating? (I've decided not to, as you'd expect)

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

We've had one......and I could have told you last week which member of staff it would be.

 

As an aside, I had a meeting with a bloke yesterday, after an hour of the meeting, he decided to tell me that he'd only returned from a week in Pisa, seeing his Dad, a few days before. It's turds like him that will spread it......so should I or should I not be self isolating? (I've decided not to, as you'd expect)

No. 

I' just let everyone get it now.

Shove anyone over 60 into places like Birkinhead, Eastbourne, Lytham St Anne's and Budleigh Salterton. It's unfortunate but since most under that age survive and can then go to work/keep things turning over the world is saved.

SHORT TERM PAIN FOR LONG TERM GAIN. IT'S THE FUTURE.

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We've had one......and I could have told you last week which member of staff it would be.

 

As an aside, I had a meeting with a bloke yesterday, after an hour of the meeting, he decided to tell me that he'd only returned from a week in Pisa, seeing his Dad, a few days before. It's turds like him that will spread it......so should I or should I not be self isolating? (I've decided not to, as you'd expect)

Just take government advice. Currently - if you've think you've got it or had contact with a known case then isolate.

Otherwise don't.

I suspect by end of next week advice will be any symptoms at all - isolate. 

11 minutes ago, Spider said:

No. 

I' just let everyone get it now.

Shove anyone over 60 into places like Birkinhead, Eastbourne, Lytham St Anne's and Budleigh Salterton. It's unfortunate but since most under that age survive and can then go to work/keep things turning over the world is saved.

SHORT TERM PAIN FOR LONG TERM GAIN. IT'S THE FUTURE.

There are about 9M people in the UK in their 30's.

The mortality rate best estimate for that age range is 0.2%.

So lets assume 30% of people get it - we've no immunity so that's a very conservative number - if we're not doing anything to control spread. But anyway, 30% lets say 2.7M. That's 5,400 people dead. In their 30's. With under a 3rd getting it....

The risk is much much lower for younger people - but that's still a massive, massive impact on society and the health system.  

 

13 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Just take government advice. Currently - if you've think you've got it or had contact with a known case then isolate.

Otherwise don't.

I suspect by end of next week advice will be any symptoms at all - isolate. 

Surely it would be more ecnmoicaly sound to test everyone thinking they have symptoms?

You're basically giving a quarter of the entire workforce carte blanche to have time off.

Give every business enough test kits for their employees.

 

17 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Just take government advice. Currently - if you've think you've got it or had contact with a known case then isolate.

Otherwise don't.

I suspect by end of next week advice will be any symptoms at all - isolate. 

A young girl on the radio earlier, said she flew back in a day or two ago from either Verona or Milan, before the flights got cancelled, she landed at Leeds airport, nobody said anything, she then go the bus home - she's now self isolating in a caravan on her parents drive........although the fact that she's passed through the airport, waited for her baggage, got on a bus and travelled home, surrounded by people is ridiculous. To be fair to her, she said it was farcical that there was nothing at the airport, not even a leaflet being handed out, nothing!

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Surely it would be more ecnmoicaly sound to test everyone thinking they have symptoms?

You're basically giving a quarter of the entire workforce carte blanche to have time off.

Give every business enough test kits for their employees.

 

It’s a lab test. Currently we can do 1,500 a day. We are improving that to 10,000 a day. If you have to test everyone with respiratory tract symptoms good luck....huge cost and logistics exercise.

I find people who get worked up about people bunking off work really odd. A few will take the piss no doubt but big picture is slowing this down needs less people moving round. Next stage might be where Italy are. Best to avoid with sensible proactive measures I’d say.

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

A young girl on the radio earlier, said she flew back in a day or two ago from either Verona or Milan, before the flights got cancelled, she landed at Leeds airport, nobody said anything, she then go the bus home - she's now self isolating in a caravan on her parents drive........although the fact that she's passed through the airport, waited for her baggage, got on a bus and travelled home, surrounded by people is ridiculous. To be fair to her, she said it was farcical that there was nothing at the airport, not even a leaflet being handed out, nothing!

She might be harbouring the illness in fairness, so is taking herself out for a while just being responsible?

3 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

It’s a lab test. Currently we can do 1,500 a day. We are improving that to 10,000 a day. If you have to test everyone with respiratory tract symptoms good luck....huge cost and logistics exercise.

I find people who get worked up about people bunking off work really odd. A few will take the piss no doubt but big picture is slowing this down needs less people moving round. Next stage might be where Italy are. Best to avoid with sensible proactive measures I’d say.

It depends if them skiving off increases or hinders your workload though doesn't it?

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

She might be harbouring the illness in fairness, so is taking herself out for a while just being responsible?

I get that, she's doing the correct thing. The point is that she was allowed to get of a plane from a "hot spot" and was not spoken to or advised what to do, so she just wandered out of the airport and could, in theory, have infected dozens of people when she got on the bus. And I'm guessing she wasn't the only person on that flight

Just now, Sweep said:

It depends if them skiving off increases or hinders your workload though doesn't it?

Its going to be a ballache for many many many reasons. But ultimately it is what it is. 

Once the thing has enough cases - there will be a model that says there is x% chance someone with symptoms has it. Right now that % is very low. But as cases go up % gets higher. At that point you might have a few thousand confirmed cases out there and several hundred thousands of people with some symptoms. Impossible to test those hundreds of thousands so you want them out of circulation. And you don't want them going to their doctor either. The worst cases will end up in hospital. And some of those will simply be people with a cold - but there is no way to tell them all apart at that stage. 

Re the testing - I suspect that we'll stop testing within 4 weeks and just presume positive for anyone with a snivel. 

Widespread testing is only really going to help right now while we're in stage one and trying to pinpoint outbreaks. 

If you've someone at work and suspect they're taking the piss - get them to call 111 and go through the algorithm. Basically as it stands right now - unless they've been to a high risk area or have had contact with a confirmed or suspected case then they should still be coming in according to the guidance. 

Like Fan5 says - that advice will probably alter rapidly if we step up to the next phase. Anyone with a cold will have carte blanche.