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Carlisle (A)

I’m sure I saw a thread for the Boxing Day game already? Must be going mad.

Anyway, Evatt has confirmed that Tutte and Kioso are back, thank god. In my opinion we should be able to put out our current strongest 11.

I’d go with the usual back 3, Kioso back in at right wing back, move Jones back to the left, Tutte and Thomasson in centre mid and Sarcevic further forward behind Doyle and Delfounso.

Saying that, with how inconsistent we are we could play our best team and lose 4-0. If we can start quickly and get an early goal then a comfortable 2-0 win is my prediction - another kick start to the season!

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Just glad we scraped a point hopefully we can sort something out in the January . Last time we were in this league we consistently inconsistent and that worked out . Think positive 😐.

1 minute ago, emus wig said:

Just glad we scraped a point hopefully we can sort something out in the January . Last time we were in this league we consistently inconsistent and that worked out . Think positive 😐.

There'll never be another Wrexham though. 

36 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Delfoneuso is so fucking frustrating. Showed in the last 10 minutes that there’s few in this league who can match it, but it was the first time in about 4 weeks that I’ve remembered he’s on the pitch. 

Bang on there. Been the same all season.

Produced a bit of magic the other week for kioso to score in a game in which he was largely anonymous. 

Just now, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

There'll never be another Wrexham though. 

Just imagine. Have our jabs and fuck off for a promotion party!

3 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Unimpressed. Our ineptitude was equalled by the Cumbrians.

They went top with a win today. The league is there for the taking. 

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Just imagine. Have our jabs and fuck off for a promotion party!

We were celebrating scrambling out of the 4th division yet it meant more to me than beating Reading to reach the Prem. Only Blackburn in 78 compares to it in the league. 

A lot of the earlier comments aged well !   If you watched the game surely you could see how bad the wind was and that we had a good chance of getting somet in the 2nd half.   Was like watching a game using one of them placcy flyaway balls.

 

5 minutes ago, Ani said:

They went top with a win today. The league is there for the taking. 

Agree with this long way to go yet any one can go on a run including us . 

He talks well like most weeks

Said earlier it will mean absolutely jack if we ain’t fired up for Tuesday and after today’s comeback if the players ain’t up for it we have big problems they must be buzzing tonight 

47 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Unimpressed. Our ineptitude was equalled by the Cumbrians.

Agree, awful.

32 minutes ago, Ani said:

They went top with a win today. The league is there for the taking. 

Indeed. And they still couldn't hold on to a 3 goal start. We got lucky.

It was like a classic park pitch Sunday morning game, stay in it first half against the gale and win it second half. Problem for us is we just haven't got the tools to handle games like that, or indeed any where the opponents or the conditions are to our liking.

We were pathetic first 35 mins, improved a midge's last 10 of first half and got the goal, showed in doing that Carlisle weren't that solid at back, even with the huge advantage. 

Second half our efforts to get back into it were dreadful for half an hour, we didn't make a single clear chance or work the keeper once and if they hadn't been wasteful and Gilks saved a couple they'd have been out of sight.

There was always that feeling though that it wouldn't take much to get them wobbling and our one decent bit of play got the second and did just that. Isgrove had been dreadful up to then but played a good ball in for that one and his deft ball back across for the third was also good.

Thomason - that lad, with good scrappers behind him, will do good things at this level. Kevin Nolan never had much pace but an engine and an eye for getting into dangerous positions. Thomason did that today, had the desire to be there to score the first and almost get the winner at the end. 

Kioso was unlucky, that ref was dying to send one of ours off, we'd spoilt his afternoon getting back level. 

We need a big shake up of personnel in Jan and IE to get off his moral high ground, admit there are more than one way to win football matches and get in the bodies that will give us that adaptability so we can be a lot more horses for courses and a lot less one trick ponies that are easily rumbled. We have far far too many in our squad who are looking for someone else to do the dirty work for them. 

Let's not be fooled, that wasn't a rousing second half where we bombarded them and eventually got our just desserts, it was more about how easily Carlisle folded under a modicum of late pressure in the conditions. 

In the end, a point we'd have happily taken beforehand but a lot still to sort out, probably more than is possible in a Jan window in these current circumstances

 

 

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Just watched the goals. Their third- Santos gets in a tremendous header from their keeper's launched ball- by the time its approaching the pitch the ball is no longer in a curved trajectory and is not far off coming back.

Really difficult to play in that, and to prove a point, our third has similarities- a clearance that goes no where and the goal follows.

Not the first time Kioso has got on the end of a cross for us, he does OK.

Best I can say about today is we didn’t lose.

We barely went in for a 50/50 challenge let alone won one. Midfield can’t win a tackle for toffee and Doyle/Fonz play too far apart.

How on Earth we managed to nick a point I’ll never know. I’ve had enough tbh of the shit being served up and glad we can’t go.

Didnt exactly throw the kitchen sink at them. Did their keeper have a save to make?

Soft as shit, not good enough but by god what a dreadful league

52 minutes ago, emus wig said:

Agree with this long way to go yet any one can go on a run including us . 

Someone matched my fiver bet on the betfair exchange at 59/1 for us to win it, probably when we were 0-3 

49 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

He talks well like most weeks

Said earlier it will mean absolutely jack if we ain’t fired up for Tuesday and after today’s comeback if the players ain’t up for it we have big problems they must be buzzing tonight 

I dont think players think like we do, as a collective.  They'll understandably be concerned about their own individual performances.  Of the starters, 2 were hauled off presumably playing badly (Baptiste, Delaney) and the fact that the team improved without them wont be a confidence boost.  Kioso sent off so the boost of his goal cant carry onto Morecambe.

Others possibly licking their wounds after not playing well for the 2nd or 3rd game running - Santos, Isgrove, Fonz, Gilks, Jones, Doyle, Sarce?  I feel today will have knocked confidence rather than boosted it, hope I'm wrong but this team isnt firing on all its cylinders.

No they’ll be buzzing a point from 3-0 down, it’ll will feel like a win

1 hour ago, Mr Grey said:

Same with me, must be an age thing because I still look back when that stand took off after Savage scored as the best moment I have ever celebrated a goal, i went down about 5 riws of seats without even knowing, that and the Friday night Hull game. For some reason the Reading 1995 p/o final is down there on my list.

I just didn't wanna scramble out this time, although I will take a scramble all day long now. 

Wrexham was amazing obviously, but if I had to compare the 2, the De Freitas equaliser just pips it, we went from down and out to winning that, and at Wembley with 25,000 whites celebrating.  At Wrexham, I remember the thrill of the goal being ever so slightly dampened soon after by knowing it still wasn't in our hands (needing Torquay to lose and not being sure of their score).  I recalled recently that Wrexham were not only playing for nowt but were down to 10 men for about the last half hour!  It would have been a nightmare if we'd still only drawn and missed our chance.  But probably the best away goal celebration/mental away end I've been at, along with Hull as you say.

1 hour ago, W.cramp said:

A lot of the earlier comments aged well !   If you watched the game surely you could see how bad the wind was and that we had a good chance of getting somet in the 2nd half.   Was like watching a game using one of them placcy flyaway balls.

If you watched the game you’ll have noticed that our insistence on playing out from the back meant the wind didn’t affect the ball for our goal kicks the same way it did for theirs after the break. 
In the second half, at 3-1 down we should’ve been lumping it forwards and using the wind to our advantage.

On 23/12/2020 at 22:00, Underpants said:

Back in the day I loved going to Carlisle. Always seemed to be a night match, and warm.

 

Wrexham was the best ever day watching Bolton. Done the European games, cup runs etc but everything had to align for Wrexham.

That was as near to perfect as you can get for a football day

2 hours ago, captainmed said:

The last time I got this wet was at Northampton away in 1990.

That first-half was a disgrace. The last  5 mins are what it’s all about.

Dancing through the puddles on the way back in to town.

Quick exit, back to Spoons. Full of moody dressers.

What a bloody comeback.

UTW.

how many bolton fans was there do you think 

2 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

Wrexham was the best ever day watching Bolton. Done the European games, cup runs etc but everything had to align for Wrexham.

That was as near to perfect as you can get for a football day

Aye.

Said it before, when fat blokes fly, something miraculous has happened.

 

 

 

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