Rudy Posted February 19, 2022 Author Posted February 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Marc505 said: No troops. Not least because it would probably kill off whatever popularity remains for Johnson (and Biden). That would put us directly in conflict with Russia and even though we already are in all but name, the prospect of escalation from the point where British/US soldiers are actually doing battle with Russias to what that could lead to are too extreme for anyone to comprehend on both sides. I couldn't really say what the outcome would be in terms of Russia in Ukraine but there would be massive losses on both sides and it wouldn't be pretty. I think Russia is looking at some sort of "limited" war that takes a big chunk of Ukrainian territory and leaves the rest to be free, but in no doubts that its Russias bitch and a physical buffer between them and NATO. Cheers pal Quote
Youri McAnespie Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wish I had shares in mbda. Dropped a little in value today, but if we end up supplying more stuff to Ukraine, then who knows. I wish I had loads of MDMA, it used to be a proper fanny magnet back then - the sluts would pay in kind for a pill or wrap - my garb made me look like a petty gangster so girls would often come and unashamedly ask for free drugs, not off me, someone else. Quote
MickyD Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Marc505 said: If Ukraine ever became our enemy, its those weapons we would be facing. Isn’t that what happened when Taliban were fighting Russia? The west provided armaments which later would get used against the west. Quote
Marc505 Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, MickyD said: Isn’t that what happened when Taliban were fighting Russia? The west provided armaments which later would get used against the west. It is, and the amount of western supplied weaponry that has fallen into the hands of terrorist groups in Afghan over the last few years is scary. We've pumped all sorts of weapons and training into whoever we consider our allies in Iraq, Syria, Libya etc in recent years too and I suppose its considered critical for what we want at the time, but it surely couldn't be considered a shock if we find it all fielded against us at some point in future. The global war machine continues to tick over! Quote
MickyD Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, Marc505 said: It is, and the amount of western supplied weaponry that has fallen into the hands of terrorist groups in Afghan over the last few years is scary. We've pumped all sorts of weapons and training into whoever we consider our allies in Iraq, Syria, Libya etc in recent years too and I suppose its considered critical for what we want at the time, but it surely couldn't be considered a shock if we find it all fielded against us at some point in future. The global war machine continues to tick over! Always makes me wonder why the stuff we provide doesn’t have a remotely operated self-destruct system. Quote
Marc505 Posted February 19, 2022 Posted February 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, MickyD said: Always makes me wonder why the stuff we provide doesn’t have a remotely operated self-destruct system. I'm sure I read something along those lines about some piece of equipment America sold once but can't remember what it was. Can only really talk from aircraft point of view as that's where my interest lies, but if we or the US sells a batch of planes to somewhere abroad they're usually export versions stripped of their most sensitive technology. Just makes me laugh sometimes, we spent majority of the 90s spending hundreds of millions destroying Iraqs air force and now they own a whole batch of lovely F-16s flown by pilots trained by those who were trying to kill them not too many years earlier! Quote
e2e4 Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 On 18/02/2022 at 21:56, Rudy said: Right you lot can fuck off Antagonising our new overlords I warned you tbh, it looks like *only* lorry horn noises might work to take over the west . Quote
mickbrown Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 Interesting article. Not the piece of piss for the Russians you might think. Quote
Rudy Posted February 20, 2022 Author Posted February 20, 2022 55 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Interesting article. Not the piece of piss for the Russians you might think. Good read that. Seems like they’re a bit more prepped Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 No doubt why Russia and the twat next door have been flashing their missile capabilities. If it came down to a ground based, troop battle then Russia is getting a fierce fight. Quote
Dimron Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 Probably a bit like Normandy in WW2 Sheer weight of materiel against an embedded force, the Reich were very good at rear guard actions especially with their Hitler Youth Quote
Zico Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 5 hours ago, mickbrown said: Interesting article. Not the piece of piss for the Russians you might think. I saw this last week Quote
Dimron Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, Zico said: I saw this last week Up against 120,000 full time soldiers Shock & Awe beckons Rearguard actions and resistance should be their tactic Quote
Cheese Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 48 minutes ago, Zico said: I saw this last week Context would help.... Quote
Morizio Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 There’s a vid of a Ukrainian granny wielding a machine gun, being trained by a guy with SS related insignia on his uniform. Quote
Cheese Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, Morizio said: There’s a vid of a Ukrainian granny wielding a machine gun, being trained by a guy with SS related insignia on his uniform. More than likely Russian propaganda. They are experts. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 36 minutes ago, Cheese said: Context would help.... Yes. The article explains the sheer size of the Ukrainian military. Maybe not the most advanced in some regards, but for comparison, it is significantly bigger than ours, and from a smaller population. Quote
Morizio Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 12 minutes ago, Cheese said: More than likely Russian propaganda. They are experts. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10530885/PETER-HITCHENS-Granny-gets-gun-bunch-shameless-neo-Nazis.html Quote
Morizio Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 Ignoring the shitrag source and bbc bashing undertone. She’s named along with the the city where it originates from. Quote
Cheese Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Morizio said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10530885/PETER-HITCHENS-Granny-gets-gun-bunch-shameless-neo-Nazis.html As I said, they are experts. They've got you and Peter Hitchens talking about a granny, and thinking the BBC are Nazi's. Edited February 20, 2022 by Cheese Quote
Cheese Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 Just now, Mr Grey said: Context would help https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10530885/PETER-HITCHENS-Granny-gets-gun-bunch-shameless-neo-Nazis.html Quote
Morizio Posted February 20, 2022 Posted February 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Cheese said: As I said, they are experts. They've got you and Peter Hitchens talking about a granny, and thinking the BBC are Nazi's. I do not agree with your assumption about me. Quote
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