Meanwhile in Ukraine

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

One of our customers, a major mil/aero manufacturer, had a cyber attack last week. It took them fully offline for two whole hours. They told our IT people that they get "attacked"  every couple of weeks, but they usually nip it in the bud, this time it got through and caused them utter chaos.

The usual statement about terrorism etc applies here; the defenders have to be successful every time, the attackers only have to be successful once.

I've no doubt that western powers are employing similar tactics.

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

the defenders have to be successful every time, the attackers only have to be successful once.

Or thrice if you're Burton! 

[Casino]

Out of interest, why not impose the sanctions before they do anything

Imo, theyve done enough, already

Almost like we are giving em time to shift their money

[Spider]

12 hours ago, Casino said:

Out of interest, why not impose the sanctions before they do anything

Imo, theyve done enough, already

Almost like we are giving em time to shift their money

Now we’re getting somewhere….

[deane koontz]

Nowt happening then?

[Spider]

3 hours ago, deane koontz said:

Nowt happening then?

Russia say they’re pulling out

The “west” say they’re adding more troops at the border.

Ukranians seem relaxed because he’s done this before

Hard to say what the next play is. Hopefully Vlad has bottled it.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

17 hours ago, Casino said:

Out of interest, why not impose the sanctions before they do anything

Imo, theyve done enough, already

Almost like we are giving em time to shift their money

Nations already have sanctions in place against Russia. Commentator on BBC reckoned that, in part at least, that's why the Russian economy isn't doing so well. 

Which could be a contributory reason for the action he's taken- to garner more support back home.

The web of Russian money in London will no doubt ultimately filter down somewhat a help with the economy, so cutting that supply isn't going to be done unless its a final option.

Interesting little article here; been happy for their cash pretty much since the end of the soviet era.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/may/25/how-britain-let-russia-hide-its-dirty-money

Edited February 16, 2022 by Tonge moor green jacket

[gonzo]

@Marc505

 

Felt a massive bang yesterday. Like somone was piling nearby. Turned out to be a sonic boom. Anything on your radar system? 

[Marc505]

Just now, gonzo said:

@Marc505

 

Felt a massive bang yesterday. Like somone was piling nearby. Turned out to be a sonic boom. Anything on your radar system? 

Was a Typhoon doing some testing over the sea I think, although some newspapers reported it as a P-8 Poseidon which is basically a similar type plane as Ryanair fly so obviously ridiculous.

We avgeeks do like to laugh at badly identified aircraft in the media, many of us have never kissed a girl.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Crazy Ivan

 

[Rudy]

25 minutes ago, gonzo said:

@Marc505

 

Felt a massive bang yesterday. Like somone was piling nearby. Turned out to be a sonic boom. Anything on your radar system? 

Think I’ve told this on here before but once was on a boat on lake Windermere and I heard this horrendous noise and just felt this huge gust of wind and then the ripples on the water. Looked up and there was nothing there. Mentioned it later to this guy in the pub and he said it would have been the Air Force testing a jet and you would have had no chance of seeing it. 
I told my owd man who’s an aviation engineer and I don’t think he’s ever been so excited 😂

[Tonge moor green jacket]

https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/supersonic-boom-typhoon-jet-caused-23105508

[Marc505]

This thread is slowly becoming wanking material.

[L/H White]

I went to the Blackpool airshow once 

Some big jobby was flying over the sea, loudest thing I've ever heard 

No idea what it was, but it was very big and very loud

[Winchester White]

8 minutes ago, L/H White said:

I went to the Blackpool airshow once 

Some big jobby was flying over the sea, loudest thing I've ever heard 

No idea what it was, but it was very big and very loud

Probably a vulcan, was it a delta shaped big knacker?

[Burndens Bogs]

43 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Think I’ve told this on here before but once was on a boat on lake Windermere and I heard this horrendous noise and just felt this huge gust of wind and then the ripples on the water. Looked up and there was nothing there. Mentioned it later to this guy in the pub and he said it would have been the Air Force testing a jet and you would have had no chance of seeing it. 
I told my owd man who’s an aviation engineer and I don’t think he’s ever been so excited 😂

I remember when the Falklands war had just started and we were arsing about water skiing on Lake Windermere, then a noise like i’d never heard before as half a dozen RAF  jets screamed down the full length of the lake at no more than 100ft high, never seen an airctaft fly so fast or low before or since.

They were getting some last minute low level practice in before going joining the action in the South Atlantic apparently.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

47 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

This thread is slowly becoming wanking material.

I've just gone down a military worm hole from a couple of Google recommended articles; onto Babcock frigate being considered by the Polish navy, Chinese submarines and ultimately mbda and their huge range of missile systems etc, including sky warden- an anti uav type drone that twats the opposition's drones.

Real warfare is increasingly becoming game-like and autonomous. Freaky.

[Marc505]

18 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I've just gone down a military worm hole from a couple of Google recommended articles; onto Babcock frigate being considered by the Polish navy, Chinese submarines and ultimately mbda and their huge range of missile systems etc, including sky warden- an anti uav type drone that twats the opposition's drones.

Real warfare is increasingly becoming game-like and autonomous. Freaky.

I don't think they'll ever totally eradicate manned flight in warfare but unmanned stuff is going to end up dominating. There's a new system in advanced trials called "loyal wingman" basically a single manned jet that has nominal control over a swarm of drones that can attack or defend as required, mental stuff.

Probably should end up in the conspiracy thread like but I've read some really interesting stuff about these increasing numbers of UFO sightings by the US military, that they're actually Chinese spy drones infiltrating the most heavily defended ships and bases that USA has, seemingly at will.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

I don't think they'll ever totally eradicate manned flight in warfare but unmanned stuff is going to end up dominating. There's a new system in advanced trials called "loyal wingman" basically a single manned jet that has nominal control over a swarm of drones that can attack or defend as required, mental stuff.

Probably should end up in the conspiracy thread like but I've read some really interesting stuff about these increasing numbers of UFO sightings by the US military, that they're actually Chinese spy drones infiltrating the most heavily defended ships and bases that USA has, seemingly at will.

Aye- tempest amongst others.

Either manned or not, but with its own cluster of smaller drones. Fascinating stuff.

As for the Chinese, wouldn't put anything past them- and they probably stole the designs for their spy drone in the first place. 

[Cheese]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

@Marc505

 

Felt a massive bang yesterday. Like somone was piling nearby. Turned out to be a sonic boom. Anything on your radar system? 

Probably a Typhoon from Warton. 

[Marc505]

10 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Aye- tempest amongst others.

Either manned or not, but with its own cluster of smaller drones. Fascinating stuff.

As for the Chinese, wouldn't put anything past them- and they probably stole the designs for their spy drone in the first place. 

And thats today's lunch time reading sorted!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Marc505 said:

And thats today's lunch time reading sorted!

Had a good read about it a week or two back. Amazing shit.

Anyway, seems those Pesky Russians are building bridges across the river which is the border between Belarus and Ukraine.

Not looking so good.

 

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Had a good read about it a week or two back. Amazing shit.

Anyway, seems those Pesky Russians are building bridges across the river which is the border between Belarus and Ukraine.

Not looking so good.

 

Where have you read that? 

[Rudy]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Had a good read about it a week or two back. Amazing shit.

Anyway, seems those Pesky Russians are building bridges across the river which is the border between Belarus and Ukraine.

Not looking so good.

 

Maybe it’s a metaphor 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

Where have you read that? 

Just been on the news. Together with satellite pictures of a train load of tanks supposedly arriving somewhere.

Also interviewed James Heappy, defence minister, who still reckons Russia is likely to go in.

Of course the information could be wrong, we'll see I guess.