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Another youngster gone

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  • Leyther_Matt
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    £250k for a player who isn’t on a pro deal is probably judged a huge success FWIW

  • Whitesince63
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    Very disappointing whatever the circumstances. Losing potentially two of our brightest talents without even giving them an opportunity at the first team seems bad business given the promise they have

  • Benny The Ball
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    Under "normal" circumstances I would have expected Evatt on behalf of Football Ventures to be painting their vision of where the club is going over the next 3 -5 years, in  which he ( Evatt ) is suppo

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Was impressive from what little I had seen of him but in the  current climate I suppose it's good business ,  guessing there will be add ons. 

A shame, but it's the reality of where we are & why getting back to Championship level is important. 

Just an hour for us, no time on the bench and no prospect of being selected by us for the foreseeable. Obviously not ready for week by week starts but a prospect lost while we sign 20+ players & need(ed) 5 more this month and youth can go hang. Progressive managers eh ?!

How much do you think it costs to develop a kid through the youth system? More or less than £250k?

3 minutes ago, BOWTUN BAKED said:

How much do you think it costs to develop a kid through the youth system? More or less than £250k?

Depends from what age 

Just now, Rudy said:

Depends from what age 

Sure enough, from the start then

When you look at Crawley selling Watters for £1m having bagged a rake of goals in the league, it doesn't look bad business. Pays the wages for a few months and them are the times we are living in.

5 minutes ago, BOWTUN BAKED said:

Sure enough, from the start then

I reckon it probably costs a mid table PL club 3-5m a year. 
Think is it’s £250k in our pockets to use immediately, hopefully short term loss for a long term gain if we can use that to persuade one or two to join us to strengthen. 

2 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

Manager obviously doesnt fancy him 

Mmmm.

1 hour ago, bwfc2003 said:

Looked promising in the Trophy game against Shrewsbury reserves, but since then I think only made our bench once?

Manager obviously doesnt fancy him 

More likely couldn't afford for him to be injured.  Not saying he would have started league games but surely would have got a chance as an occasional sub.

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1 hour ago, bwfc2003 said:

Looked promising in the Trophy game against Shrewsbury reserves, but since then I think only made our bench once?

Manager obviously doesnt fancy him 

Not convinced 

Maybe our financial situation is far worse than is in the public domain 

Needs must I think 

2 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said:

Not convinced 

Maybe our financial situation is far worse than is in the public domain 

Needs must I think 

I’d think the lad and his family made a call to leave, can’t hold onto anyone in this Mickey Mouse league.

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16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’d think the lad and his family made a call to leave, can’t hold onto anyone in this Mickey Mouse league.

From 4th September BWFC website 

Bolton Wanderers Academy Manager Mark Litherland has today welcomed ten new scholars to the club’s Academy.

Litherland, who was recently appointed to the role, underlined the privilege of representing Bolton Wanderers and the importance of the scholars’ relentless pursuit of excellence as they aim to become professional footballers for the club.

He said: “I’d like to welcome into Bolton Wanderers Football Club Bright Amoateng, Joseph Brown, Maxwell Conway, Mitchell Henry, Ellis Litherland, Arran Pettifer, Jack Thompson, Lamine Toure, Mathew Tweedley and Max Wilcox who will join the seven second year scholars we already have: Markus Assarsson, Ryan Colvin, Jay Fitzmartin, Luke Hutchinson, Finlay Lockett, Regan Riley and Nathan Whalley.

Two vital components for academy players to progress into the first team environment are now established.

“First of all, Ian Evatt, the Head Coach, wholeheartedly buys into youth development. He has been fantastic with the scholars in the short time we’ve been back training and he has demonstrated that he’s pro youth and would be willing to give the players an opportunity.

“Secondly, under the guidance of the Head of Football Operations, Tobias Phoenix, the club has designed a clear and defined player pathway. 

“These two components are vital in getting academy players into the first team.

“Our players are in a privileged position representing Bolton and with privilege comes responsibility.

 

I still think there is far more to it than the player wanting out 

 

 

 

 

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Bring a player in for nowt and sell him for 250k with, hopefully add ons, should he make a career for himself.

Good business. This is moneyball.  It's also what Wigan and Bury did on a regular basis back through the years. 

No problem with this, however would have been nice to see a little bit more of him,  cameo roles from the bench? Instead of the dross sat on their arses at the moment. The quote above about Evatt been tuned into our youth setup, not sure about that. He would rather pay to borrow players from Lincoln. 

55 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Bring a player in for nowt and sell him for 250k with, hopefully add ons, should he make a career for himself.

Good business. This is moneyball.  It's also what Wigan and Bury did on a regular basis back through the years. 

I'm not sure it is. I think it's more likely just us losing a promising youngster.

We are at a level where clubs live hand to mouth. £250k for a kid who is not even making the bench is something we have to grab. 
It is shit but that is where we are. 
 

 

Can't blame the lad for having ambition and moving ,Norwich top of championship with a chance of a prem future....or Bolton ....it's a no brainer .....also we can't turn down 250k.

Kane, I've hidden your post above

I need to check that out

17 minutes ago, Casino said:

Kane, I've hidden your post above

I need to check that out

Alright. Drop me a message please 

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Potentially another youngster on his way out 

Finlay Lockett to Wolves - this story has been around a week or so  - ignored it at the time but its the  same source as broke the Regan Riley story - so maybe something in it 

https://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive-wolves-set-sights-on-signing-bolton-rising-star-amid-contract-reveal/

Article mentions finances at Bolton and scrapping of Under 23s  - really hoped we could start to turn our fortunes around by keeping hold of these young lads - evidently not

 

He's been doing brilliantly for the under 23s or whatever they are. 

Think I've only seen about half a game of Riley, but he impressed me when I saw him, 250K isn't to be sniffed at giving our current position, just hope we have a decent sell on clause if Norwich sell him on.

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm not sure it is. I think it's more likely just us losing a promising youngster.

Well its not quite as obvious as some of Brentfords successes but it's still turning a player that cost us nowt into 250k.  Small steps and all that.  Certainly preferable to them leaving on a free and pitching up at a championship or premier league club later on.

1 minute ago, Duck Egg said:

Well its not quite as obvious as some of Brentfords successes but it's still turning a player that cost us nowt into 250k.  Small steps and all that.  Certainly preferable to them leaving on a free and pitching up at a championship or premier league club later on.

We're just having a good young player poached from us, as happens to many clubs lower down the leagues. I don't think it's a positive at all.

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