February 21, 20242 yr Foreign Policy is now being decided by the Opposition, because the Government can't stop playing stupid games. Give us a General Election ffs.
February 21, 20242 yr Sadly, the media are running with the story that the issue is labour influencing hoyle
February 21, 20242 yr Just now, Casino said: Sadly, the media are running with the story that the issue is labour influencing hoyle Obviously. And many thick cunts will believe it.
February 21, 20242 yr 3 hours ago, gonzo said: We just look like cunts to the world. SNP are awful - today is a low point.
February 22, 20242 yr 11 hours ago, Casino said: Sadly, the media are running with the story that the issue is labour influencing hoyle Incredible isn’t it? A government unwilling to do the right thing or just lying and deflecting on everything.
February 22, 20242 yr 12 hours ago, Casino said: Sadly, the media are running with the story that the issue is labour influencing hoyle Which it clearly fucking is. He has to go.
February 22, 20242 yr 13 hours ago, Casino said: Sadly, the media are running with the story that the issue is labour influencing hoyle 46 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Which it clearly fucking is. He has to go. Yet when he allows an amendment by the Conservatives he isn’t accused of being influenced by them.
February 22, 20242 yr I like Hoyle and have defended him previously on here when people where pining for the return of the ridiculous Bercow, but it's not for nothing he's apologised and was sent a warning letter by his clerk But it's interesting that one of his justifications for his decision was because he was concerned about the security threats to MPs
February 22, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Yet when he allows an amendment by the Conservatives he isn’t accused of being influenced by them. That is purely convention, irrelevant of who ever is in power. In that situation, the government amendment is selected. It isn't a "rule" though, and is still the speakers decision to make, and it was no surprise he chose both.
February 22, 20242 yr Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: That is purely convention, irrelevant of who ever is in power. In that situation, the government amendment is selected. It isn't a "rule" though, and is still the speakers decision to make, and it was no surprise he chose both. It was very much a surprise he did
February 22, 20242 yr 48 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I like Hoyle and have defended him previously on here when people where pining for the return of the ridiculous Bercow, but it's not for nothing he's apologised and was sent a warning letter by his clerk But it's interesting that one of his justifications for his decision was because he was concerned about the security threats to MPs May well be true, but it's a sad day for parliamentary democracy and procedure when a mob starts influencing decisions. That will only lead one way.
February 22, 20242 yr Just now, Lt. Aldo Raine said: It was very much a surprise he did To you perhaps. Not to me.
February 22, 20242 yr I am not a huge fan of Hoyle and hes my MP, but he did what he thought was right. Loads of complaints of broken convention but heard last night similar has happened twice before in the past.
February 22, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: To you perhaps. Not to me. There's a reason his clerk sent him a letter warning him of the potential consequences It was far from a formality
February 22, 20242 yr Shame the Tories weren’t so vocal when their own prime minister was found to have broken the law and when it was abundantly clear he had misled parliament.
February 22, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Shame the Tories weren’t so vocal when their own prime minister was found to have broken the law and when it was abundantly clear he had misled parliament. They were. They kicked him out.
February 22, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: They were. They kicked him out. He resigned in disgrace.
February 22, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, Cheese said: He resigned in disgrace. Jumped before he was pushed. Semantics.
February 22, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Jumped before he was pushed. Semantics. Probably the nearest he ever got to being 'dignified' in his life.
February 22, 20242 yr 4 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Jumped before he was pushed. Semantics. He resigned later due to the Pincher debacle, not due to his law breaking and misleading Parliament. There's been so many indiscretions it's easy to forget.
February 22, 20242 yr 14 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: They were. They kicked him out. Come on, they weren't. I think it was April 2022 when he (and Rishi as it happens) was found guilty and fined for breaking the law. The Tories backed him and said “let’s move on”. It was June when he resigned. It was also clear for many, many months beforehand that he’d misled parliament. A handful had the courage to speak out but the rest chose to ignore it.
February 22, 20242 yr 7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: There's a reason his clerk sent him a letter warning him of the potential consequences It was far from a formality Didn't say it was. Everyone else on earth could have been surprised by the decision. As I say, I wasn't. I thought about it, and on balance that's precisely what I thought he'd do.
February 22, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Jol_BWFC said: Come on, they weren't. I think it was April 2022 when he (and Rishi as it happens) was found guilty and fined for breaking the law. The Tories backed him and said “let’s move on”. It was June when he resigned. It was also clear for many, many months beforehand that he’d misled parliament. A handful had the courage to speak out but the rest chose to ignore it. I don't think there was any dispute that he'd misled it. The question was one of accident or design. Then the shenanigans over the wording of willfully or recklessly, which in the end sealed his fate. As an individual event, the Pincher case wouldn't have been a massive issue, but in the end it became the straw that broke the camels back. All this is history though: we have a major developing issue now, which has the potential to become far more serious. Police aren't dealing with it, and we have a tinderbox of sectarianism.
February 22, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Come on, they weren't. I think it was April 2022 when he (and Rishi as it happens) was found guilty and fined for breaking the law. The Tories backed him and said “let’s move on”. It was June when he resigned. It was also clear for many, many months beforehand that he’d misled parliament. A handful had the courage to speak out but the rest chose to ignore it. ‘A very Tory coup’ It’s the Daily Mail so probably crap. Or maybe not. 😉 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-11040663/amp/ANDREW-PIERCE-Boris-Johnson-betrayed-toppled-Tory-coup-inside-accounts-reveal.html Edited February 22, 20242 yr by BobyBrno
February 22, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, BobyBrno said: They were. They kicked him out. Only when they had spent months and loads of tax payers money on defending the useless lump. There were still some Tories who wanted him back after the Truss fiasco. This government only apply the rules when it suits.
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