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A View From The Other Side

I realise some of you may have zero interest in this which is fair enough but from time to time I like to have a snoop on OppositionWays out of curiosity. Thought it was worth compiling some together which I'll do in this thread whenever I get chance. 

Seems like Lincoln have some pretty level headed fans but then one or two absolutely bitter fuckers. 

Pick of the bunch includes:

THE BITTER

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How about 10 points deducted for every £million of debt a club has?
Wonder just how low these perennial cheats would drop?

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Bolton stayed in Lincoln last night. Not leaving much to chance.

No that was so they could rack up extra debt.

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Surely we can't lose to these cheats?
Why are they not on multiple minus points?

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I'd rather be us than them. How long do they have to pay their debt?

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The simple truth is, as much as the away fans won't want to admit it, we lost to one of those vile clubs tonight. One of those that has spent beyond their means, and clearly continues to do so.

 

THE PRAISE

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Good game. Shit result.
By the standards of last season Bolton should be pushing for promotion. But then that was last season.

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Beaten by the better team. Good to see a big away following.

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FT. Good game. Credit to Bolton - they did enough to control the game throughout, although we had some bright moments, especially in the first half. They also scored at exactly the right time and managed the game out. 

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Bolton also look like a really good side who should be in the top half of the table.

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I have backed Bolton to win the league as I think they are a decent team. They looked like a very settled team that are used to winning.

Taken from https://forums.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/match-thread-lincoln-city-v-bolton-wanderers.117675/page-25 

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2 hours ago, boltonboris said:

That number 7 if theirs, I said in the first half he’s probably the worst player I’ve ever seen. One paced, weak, bit lazy, couldn’t control the ball and never showed for it. 
 

Turns out he’s called Murray and Wigan fans think he’s the best player in the division 😂

Yes, he was terrible.  I think they had Dale Taylor there last year and he was outstanding.  Also they had Aasgaard last year and their lack of physicality this year was a massive difference.

Their best player for me was Wright, he only came on as sub, but he looked quality in the last half hour.  I looked him up and he played for SS (and Rooney, and Muslic) at Plymouth, he's only on loan at Wigan.  We could make worse signings if Plymouth don't want him, he started when Plymouth beat Liverpool last year.

You answered your own point.

Tourists.

Money in the coffers, but don't tell the tale of local attendances.

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Great work as ever @matty2094. Read through that forum earlier as I was bored pretending to work on a Friday arvo, I was struck by the similarities between what they are saying and what was said on here under Evatt, a very dissatisfied bunch, shame.

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They need a poster like cheese on their site!

49 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

They need a poster like cheese on their site!

That would really get them suicidal 

19 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said:

That would really get them suicidal 

Yeah, a fan that actually supports their team for the full 90+ minutes. How depressing.

It seems one of their lot thought it was a clear penalty for us.

We've not had one in the league have we?

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It seems one of their lot thought it was a clear penalty for us.

We've not had one in the league have we?

nope

Like last season generally fair comments from Huddersfield fans, fair play

I know a few Udders fans and they are all reasonable and fair in their assessments and praise of us when deserving.. don’t get me wrong still plenty of banter between us as you would expect!

I think we are two very similar clubs and we’ve both shared one of the finest managers we’ve ever had in Ian Greaves 👍

7 hours ago, Rizlar said:

They need a poster like cheese on their site!

No one deserves that. 

People moan about our fans being negative - Lee Grant only got the job in May and is a point behind us with a game in hand. And they all think he's shit and needs sacking asap.

The comments about pace are right though, Christ it's a tough watch when you have none.  

1 hour ago, Tombwfc said:

People moan about our fans being negative - Lee Grant only got the job in May and is a point behind us with a game in hand. And they all think he's shit and needs sacking asap.

The comments about pace are right though, Christ it's a tough watch when you have none.  

Grant spent significantly more than Schumacher in the summer. They allegedly outbid us on one or two. Expectations and costs are high.

In fact, I think Schumacher brought more money in than he spent.

Delighted as I am & devouring all the written and video coverage I shows the knife-edge we all walk.

We could so easily have drawn, we could possibly more easily have lost. I'd be pissed off, have read as little as possible & hunkered down for another week.

I'd not have been calling for SS's head but be wondering when losses became critical.

 

46 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

Delighted as I am & devouring all the written and video coverage I shows the knife-edge we all walk.

We could so easily have drawn, we could possibly more easily have lost. I'd be pissed off, have read as little as possible & hunkered down for another week.

I'd not have been calling for SS's head but be wondering when losses became critical.

 

Yes its a thin dividing line between success and failure in some games.  If Huddersfield had got a corner in the 92nd minute instead of Cogley earning a goal kick, SS has picked the wrong team, and he needs to change formation away from home.  And Dalby is still useless, and no end product from ACD.

SS didn't necessarily pick the "right" team, or the wrong team previously.  He can't influence those moments that define if a goal is going to be scored, or conceded.  Or something like that, I'm not articulating it very well at this time of night, but so much of it is down to a lot of factors and who gets picked is just one ingredient.

Dion getting grief from both sets of fans. How the mighty are fallen.

4 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

People moan about our fans being negative - Lee Grant only got the job in May and is a point behind us with a game in hand. And they all think he's shit and needs sacking asap.

The comments about pace are right though, Christ it's a tough watch when you have none.  

We’re all a bunch of happy clappers compared to that lot! 😂

 

31 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Yes its a thin dividing line between success and failure in some games.  If Huddersfield had got a corner in the 92nd minute instead of Cogley earning a goal kick, SS has picked the wrong team, and he needs to change formation away from home.  And Dalby is still useless, and no end product from ACD.

SS didn't necessarily pick the "right" team, or the wrong team previously.  He can't influence those moments that define if a goal is going to be scored, or conceded.  Or something like that, I'm not articulating it very well at this time of night, but so much of it is down to a lot of factors and who gets picked is just one ingredient.

Great post.

The fine margins take us to the extremities on either side.

Must admit, in the euphoria of such a great win, I’ve probably gone OTT on doling out some praise - probably most telling saying how SS picked the right side as if it’s now a provable fact, when it so easily would have been derided as a shocking selection, if we didn’t win.

The reality this season has been win, select the same/similar side, don’t win!

Thats why the back to back win is so important.

But if defeats are going to get pinned on SS not choosing the right side and getting his formation/tactics wrong, then it’s only right he gets some credit after a fantastic win?  

You see them all debating whether the manager picked the right team or not, whether its us, Fleetwood or Arsenal, just the way of the modern football world. FWIW we'll have a lot of fine margins days this season, this league is a big much of a muchness, with little to separate top and bottom, a lot of draws and single goal wins or losses still to come

3 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said:

You see them all debating whether the manager picked the right team or not, whether its us, Fleetwood or Arsenal, just the way of the modern football world. FWIW we'll have a lot of fine margins days this season, this league is a big much of a muchness, with little to separate top and bottom, a lot of draws and single goal wins or losses still to come

While we are still playing well, creating lots of chances to win games and good to watch on the eye (see  Huddersfield comments), I hope the comments that fall into the negative extreme, can be stifled, especially when there are, as you say, so many fine margins.

I suppose the only understandable and acceptable way that is going to happen is if you win games!  

3 hours ago, ianofcleveleys said:

You see them all debating whether the manager picked the right team or not, whether its us, Fleetwood or Arsenal, just the way of the modern football world. FWIW we'll have a lot of fine margins days this season, this league is a big much of a muchness, with little to separate top and bottom, a lot of draws and single goal wins or losses still to come

The fine margins are a good reason why the crew of HMS Piss the League need the occasional word of caution, even though it will invariably get the knee jerk “stop being so negative” response.

But as you, Johnny and others rightly point out there are so many variables in a game of football there are no guarantees. 

That said, really top sides consistently find a way to overcome adversity by playing so much better than the opposition that they can generally cope with the setbacks of poor refereeing, freak goals, worldies or bad luck with the run of the ball  - and still find a way to win. But in this league, there isn’t much difference between the sides so it’s much more of a lottery.

Still, fans will continue to call out players and managers one day and deify them the next even though a lot of what happens on a football pitch comes down to chance.

They seem a real honest bunch and most knew it was coming. Can’t see Dion lasting long they’ve got his card marked. Good business moving him on when we did.

thanks Matty 

12 hours ago, desperado said:

The reality this season has been win, select the same/similar side, don’t win!

Thats why the back to back win is so important.

But if defeats are going to get pinned on SS not choosing the right side and getting his formation/tactics wrong, then it’s only right he gets some credit after a fantastic win?  

Yes, fair comments.  I can only speak for myself but I don't think I've criticised, either on here or verbally, anything about team selections for any of our games this season.  Its a good squad, but I recognise their limitations and know its not as simple as whether Dalby, McAtee, Burstow or Forss start - because they all do some things better, and worse, than the others, and its not a black and white situation.  Same with all the combos of midfielders we have to choose from, and CBs.  I will always criticise managers for not leaving 1 or 2 up defending corners to initiate a break, but have come to accept this won't change (we scored from a break from defending a throw at Huddersfield, but if that had been a corner that goal doesn't happen as Burstow would still be in our box, someone explain the difference).

This is different to last season when I was critical of some of IEs signings and selections, whether just poor players or played out of position IMO - no need to go over old ground.  But whoever gets picked this season generally is decent on their day and is playing in their natural position, and if its not their day, its probably not SSs fault, its just where we're at.

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