W.cramp Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Mantra said: Klopp once said of Southgate: “That is possible but why would you make the best right-back in the world a midfielder? I don't understand that really. Was only against Malta, but even Klopp has had to make him an inverted full back for Liverpool second half of the season. Be interesting to see where Trent's career goes from here Am sorry but what exactly is an inverted full back ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Breightmet Boy said: Loads of Bolton out here, we've had a ball. It's not just about the football, it's about everything but it. GSOGK Pleased we won (As we should) nice to hear we took a few, went to Malta Pre season when Allardyce was manager, probably best ever Pre season trip, and the Maltese are quality folk. Edited June 17, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 8 hours ago, Leyther_Matt said: It was on Viaplay (formerly Premier Sports). Caught the last 10 minutes and they were harshly done to by a VAR decision that took a full 5 minutes to decide. Fuck that. For some reason via play wouldn’t play on my dodgy box. See Charles only got 20 minutes so didn’t miss much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, W.cramp said: Am sorry but what exactly is an inverted full back ? What City started doing with Stones and Lewis being next to Rodri in possession and dropping to RB for defence. They have pretty much moved to a 2 at the back now with little defensive duties on Stones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, green genie said: What City started doing with Stones and Lewis being next to Rodri in possession and dropping to RB for defence. They have pretty much moved to a 2 at the back now with little defensive duties on Stones Yeah essentially, full backs playing further forward but tucked into midfield, rather than out wide as wing-backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 I used to go to a lot of England games. Once Barnaby started going and then his girlfriend I stopped. Dislike GS with a passion too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, captainmed said: I used to go to a lot of England games. Once Barnaby started going and then his girlfriend I stopped. Dislike GS with a passion too. I used to everywhere, but stopped long before you, I reckon. Had enough by late 90's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantra Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 3 hours ago, W.cramp said: Am sorry but what exactly is an inverted full back ? 1 hour ago, green genie said: What City started doing with Stones and Lewis being next to Rodri in possession and dropping to RB for defence. They have pretty much moved to a 2 at the back now with little defensive duties on Stones Yeah, Cancelo was City's man for it before he left for Bayern. Walker wasn't technical enough to do it from Right Back and Rico Lewis is only a youngster, so Pep instead asked Stones to be a hybrid of CB/DM. Rather than a standard inverted fullback. Arsenal also do it with Zinchenko. Basically in a 4-3-3 it turns your midfield into a 4 man midfield (as the full back sits alongside the DM) which then gives you a numerical advantage in the middle of the pitch, since most teams play with a 3 or 2 man midfield. I'm honestly suprised more teams aren't doing it given how much success Pep and Arteta have had with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 9 hours ago, Breightmet Boy said: Loads of Bolton out here, we've had a ball. It's not just about the football, it's about everything but it. GSOGK It was good to see you pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted June 17, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mantra said: Yeah, Cancelo was City's man for it before he left for Bayern. Walker wasn't technical enough to do it from Right Back and Rico Lewis is only a youngster, so Pep instead asked Stones to be a hybrid of CB/DM. Rather than a standard inverted fullback. Arsenal also do it with Zinchenko. Basically in a 4-3-3 it turns your midfield into a 4 man midfield (as the full back sits alongside the DM) which then gives you a numerical advantage in the middle of the pitch, since most teams play with a 3 or 2 man midfield. I'm honestly suprised more teams aren't doing it given how much success Pep and Arteta have had with it. Watch out, it’s Evatt’s plan for Jones next season 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 17, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 17, 2023 4 hours ago, W.cramp said: Am sorry but what exactly is an inverted full back ? A winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Is an uninverted midfielder a full back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, Zico said: A winger no, that's a wing back or a false 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 17, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, gonzo said: Is an uninverted midfielder a full back? Mid wicket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 17 hours ago, Eddie said: What will likely be one of the most exciting Ashes series for a generation just kicked off and the US Open leaderboard already looking tasty - zero reason to be watching some meaningless football at the moment! No footy so cricket and golf are your go to suggestions. 🥱 No wonder everyone gets so excited about pre season games the summer time sports options are shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 17, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 17, 2023 2 hours ago, frank_spencer said: No footy so cricket and golf are your go to suggestions. 🥱 No wonder everyone gets so excited about pre season games the summer time sports options are shite. From an American football fan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 14 hours ago, athywhite1958 said: It was good to see you pal Always the better for bumping into you pal 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted June 18, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 18, 2023 Going tomorrow. Looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breightmet Boy Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 On 17/06/2023 at 11:59, athywhite1958 said: It was good to see you pal Bumped into two blokes and a woman with a Athy Cols flag at the game who knew you, they thought you wasn't going Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Breightmet Boy said: Bumped into two blokes and a woman with a Athy Cols flag at the game who knew you, they thought you wasn't going Yes, they travel a lot, Bolton fans too, they live in Chester now so can't get to all the games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leigh white Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Watching Gazza tonight pre match interview, his hand was shaking like fuck holding the mic, poor lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 It's got socceraid vibes about it this game. Did consider getting a ticket and taking the lad but eventually swerved the idea. Not sure it's any better watching on TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didledee Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 NM can't handle England's pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, leigh white said: Watching Gazza tonight pre match interview, his hand was shaking like fuck holding the mic, poor lad. Yeah he didn't look great. Even if he's not on the piss anymore the damage is done. He can barely string a sentence together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Just now, Didledee said: MK dons can't handle England's pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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