6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

2 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Pointless debating something with these guys when the goalposts move to suit their agenda for the day. Whites v Asians. Whites v Blacks. Palestinians v Jews. Muslims v Right wing thugs. Carnival goers v Football fans.

Tomorrow’s two tier agenda will be two tier broadcasting (BBC / Jenas v ITV / Schofield).

Aye

For a while the eco protesters were using non violent direct action. It was highly disruptive and had never been done on that scale before. The police had to adapt and the government had to change protest laws before stricter sentencing and policing could be brought in. Expecting change immediately was never possible. 

Using it as an argument for two tier policing is just daft. But I guess if your looking to Twitter rather than making any effort to understand policing and protest laws, then it's to be expected that you'd jump to that conclusion. 

Fwiw I understand why some folk believe in two tier policing after events like the grooming scandals. I personally think the vast majority of policing follows the law regardless of who you are and that folk are blowing the whole thing out of proportion. But I get there are a minority of occasions when this isn't the case due to historical tensions. Most of the time when folk argue 'well what about when these people did this', it's because it just wasn't as bad as the incident we're all talking about. Pro Palestine protests for example, were not descending on mass to torch a synagogue, so of course they're not going to be opening up night time courts for them.  

Anyone could go find a video of a person of a certain race or class being policed too soft, or policed too harsh, or whatever you want to suit an agenda. It doesn't prove two tier policing.

 

2 hours ago, royal white said:

There’s no moving goal posts, it’s always been the case. 
 

The phrase is used to describe the impression that some protests and demonstrations are dealt with more harshly than others.

 

 

Really isn't difficult. 

I find it strange that those who chose not to believe it (which is fair enough), insist on a narrow definition that suits them, and ignore the observations of others, and dismiss them as moving goal posts.

It doesn't actually matter if there are different levels of policing or not- it's the perception that there is.

When such perceptions are shared by former police officers and other senior figures, then maybe they shouldn't be dismissed in the usual trite manner. 

The very attitudes that got us here and will continue to raise tensions.

14 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

When such perceptions are shared by former police officers and other senior figures, then maybe they shouldn't be dismissed in the usual trite manner. 

If that perception is being pushed by the Daily Mail I'll dismiss it in any manner I see fit.

Twitter was awash last week with all.the usual racist grifters and the headline "boy sent to prison for waving an England flag outside a mosque"

Reality was he'd pleaded guilty to threats, harassment and intent to arson.

5 hours ago, royal white said:

No

Around the ground, outside the pubs. 10 people spark up a joint. Police aren’t turning a blind eye 

They don’t seem to be too bothered by the massive queues for the cubicles at each match tbf   

28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Really isn't difficult. 

I find it strange that those who chose not to believe it (which is fair enough), insist on a narrow definition that suits them, and ignore the observations of others, and dismiss them as moving goal posts.

That really does work both ways in this case 

The whole recent use of the term is based upon the treatment of protestors of differing racial backgrounds 

It started with BLM, continued with Palestine, and more recently with anti islam 

For every protest there is a counter protest and a differing point of view

Inconsistent policing definitely 

But not two tier based on race

Because for all the white folk who think the police pussy foot around minorites for fear of being deemed racist, you'll find loads of non whites who think they are targeted specifically because of their race

And this whole tangent is about Notting hill carnival

Where lots of folk have been arrested for drugs offences 

Whilst even more are able to enjoy a spliff without reproach 

That's not two tier, is it?

 

Stabbings are just “human nature” now 🤦🏻

 

 

34 minutes ago, royal white said:

Stabbings are just “human nature” now 🤦🏻

 

 

Aye, he's not done well there 

Likewise 

Ban the carnival? 

Like saying ban football because of all the scraps

Nobheads everywhere

 

 Ban the carnival 😂

 

6 hours ago, royal white said:

There’s no moving goal posts, it’s always been the case. 
 

The phrase is used to describe the impression that some protests and demonstrations are dealt with more harshly than others.

 

 

Ah, so it’s protests and demonstrations. So why are you talking about football games and carnivals?

Moving the goalposts or whataboutery?

Edited August 26, 20241 yr by Jol_BWFC

5 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Ah, so it’s protests and demonstrations. So why are you talking about football games and carnivals?

Because it can be applied to a whole manner of subjects. Even simpletons like your good self can grasp this. It’s not just black v whites. 
 

Basically the big clue is “policing” 

 

Have a think

👍

Edited August 26, 20241 yr by royal white

2 minutes ago, royal white said:

Because it can be applied to a whole manner of subjects. Even simpletons like your good self can grasp this. It’s not just black v whites. 
 

Basically the big clue is “policing” 

 

Have a think

👍

Simpleton. Made me chuckle.

Zico questioned whether it was two tier policing, or just shit policing across various things. That was rejected.

I asserted that you’re saying it’s about more than it’s black v white (eg football v carnival) and you posted above it’s always been clear what it’s about - protests and demonstrations (ie not football and carnival).

Now you say it’s about something more than black v white (eg football and carnival) which is exactly what I said to you and which you challenged. And therefore shit policing across multiple areas, which is what Zico said originally.

You’re arguing with yourself… 🤣

8 hours ago, Zico said:

Stop oil folk just got 5 years

Not enough.

6 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Simpleton. Made me chuckle.

Zico questioned whether it was two tier policing, or just shit policing across various things. That was rejected.

I asserted that you’re saying it’s about more than it’s black v white (eg football v carnival) and you posted above it’s always been clear what it’s about - protests and demonstrations (ie not football and carnival).

Now you say it’s about something more than black v white (eg football and carnival) which is exactly what I said to you and which you challenged. And therefore shit policing across multiple areas, which is what Zico said originally.

You’re arguing with yourself… 🤣

I should have left it when I said “it’s always been the case” referring to the numerous examples you gave. I chose to give one. 
 

like I said the big clue is “policing”

 

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

 Ban the carnival 😂

 

 Bonkers that people want an event cancelled that every year sees people stabbed, police officers assaulted, sexual assaults, hundreds of arrests, people carrying guns etc. I mean what’s going through their minds?

i got mugged off a seagull in Blackpool yesterday- took a battered sausage right out of my hand. Thought they only did that in Brighton. I blame @gonzo and the ticket office

22 hours ago, gonzo said:

Unless you limit your social media accounts to provide posts from people you actually follow you will be provided with anything you've browsed, spoke about or even mention on WhatsApp or to your Mrs In the kitchen.

We talk about toasters on here all day your next adverts on the Bolton Evening News page will be for toasters.

I don't follow a single GB News account or connected account but because we spent 3 weeks solid talking about that shit on here my YouTube shorts feed was littered with the stuff.

I'm getting Oasis vids today yet don't follow a single Oasis theme.

Watched a few metal drumming vids last week and was then blasted with videos of Korn and Slipknot because I posted a vid on here.

It's not algorithms.

Basically every paid for digital campaign has two parts, firstly you need to find interested parties which how you put your targeting in, then those interested parties ie if you Google something or speak near a linked appliance you get put into a pot which builds up. Then you start retargeting that pot for conversions which is why you get overserved campaigns.

1 hour ago, Dr Faustus said:

i got mugged off a seagull in Blackpool yesterday- took a battered sausage right out of my hand. Thought they only did that in Brighton. I blame @gonzo and the ticket office

He trains them, he was probably eating it within 3 minutes of it being snatched out of your hand

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

He trains them, he was probably eating it within 3 minutes of it being snatched out of your hand

vile druggy thug that he is

52 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said:

vile druggy thug that he is

don't forget about him "reeking of crime"

Just now, Sweep said:

don't forget about him "reeking of crime"

this i also believe to be true, though i assumed that was just Blackpool in general

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

He trains them, he was probably eating it within 3 minutes of it being snatched out of your hand

Sure do. I've a flock of them like minions bringing me a constant supply of chips and sausage. All named after wways posters.

Here's me walking young Garrp.

 

3 hours ago, Dr Faustus said:

i got mugged off a seagull in Blackpool yesterday- took a battered sausage right out of my hand. Thought they only did that in Brighton. I blame @gonzo and the ticket office

we need to ban sausages

29 minutes ago, wakey said:

we need to ban sausages

tbf, he did me a favour- i only bought it out of spite

40 minutes ago, wakey said:

we need to ban sausages

Tbf I read the original message and thought any cunt who buys a battered sausage deserves what comes. 

20 minutes ago, Ani said:

Tbf I read the original message and thought any cunt who buys a battered sausage deserves what comes. 

oi!!

 

24 quid for two fish and chips- i just wanted to show what grumpy little arse was missing out on- little did i know he could control the vultures of the coast

 

 

 

12 hours ago, royal white said:

I should have left it when I said “it’s always been the case” referring to the numerous examples you gave. I chose to give one. 
 

like I said the big clue is “policing”

 

 Bonkers that people want an event cancelled that every year sees people stabbed, police officers assaulted, sexual assaults, hundreds of arrests, people carrying guns etc. I mean what’s going through their minds?

Ban all carnivals.

St.Pauls 

Nottinghill

 the lot !

 Football attracts all sorts of trouble for the police as well. So does alcohol.

 get them both banned while we’re at it. Lets become Saudi Arabia 🙂 let’s punish the peaceful majority for the actions of a tiny minority. That’ll stop crime in its tracks 👍 collective punishment is what we need. Fck any nuance or underlying causes.

 An ex met relations officer suggested moving it to a less densely populated area & spreading it out. As the dense crowds are a magnet for gangs looking to settle feuds and disperse straight into the crowd. A stupid suggestion though. Ban them all.