Meanwhile In England

[London Wanderer]

6 hours ago, Ani said:

Got through the fellas documentary a while back. He’s right, it wasn’t a racist attack & the media reporting was poor, & dangerous. The boy who committed the attack suffered significant mental health issues after he was vilified. The sad thing is that both these boys are children & it was an incident that the school should have been left to deal with. Everyone behaved as bad as each other for the sake of a headline story. I can hardly look back at my 15 year old self & say I was an angel. Why the media, local mosques & TR were allowed to get involved is beyond me.

Tommy decides the way to go about it is to go after the other child. Releasing confidential school reports & other private information about him. Then he had the audacity to cry victim when he’s sued for damages. What did the daft cunt expect ? Deserves everything he got.

He also conveniently forgets to mention (whilst promising to tell us all ‘The Truth’) that the attackers mother is a convicted racist who spent time in prison for assaulting & racially abusing the local chip shop owner. 

 

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Got through the fellas documentary a while back. He’s right, it wasn’t a racist attack & the media reporting was poor, & dangerous. The boy who committed the attack suffered significant mental health issues after he was vilified. The sad thing is that both these boys are children & it was an incident that the school should have been left to deal with. Everyone behaved as bad as each other for the sake of a headline story. I can hardly look back at my 15 year old self & say I was an angel. Why the media, local mosques & TR were allowed to get involved is beyond me.

Tommy decides the way to go about it is to go after the other child. Releasing confidential school reports & other private information about him. Then he had the audacity to cry victim when he’s sued for damages. What did the daft cunt expect ? Deserves everything he got.

He also conveniently forgets to mention (whilst promising to tell us all ‘The Truth’) that the attackers mother is a convicted racist who spent time in prison for assaulting & racially abusing the local chip shop owner. 

 

The points you make maybe true but that is the distraction he is peddling 

He was told not to repeat the allegations in the film, if he did it would be contempt of court. He keeps repeating the claims so it is contempt of court. If his disagrees with the ruling he should challenge the ruling. 
 

The rights and wrongs of what happened before are not relevant. His argument is that the full story has not been told, but he lost his case. He has no right to repeat his claims. That is the law. It is an 'open and shut case , your honour.' 

[London Wanderer]

51 minutes ago, Ani said:

The points you make maybe true but that is the distraction he is peddling 

He was told not to repeat the allegations in the film, if he did it would be contempt of court. He keeps repeating the claims so it is contempt of court. If his disagrees with the ruling he should challenge the ruling. 
 

The rights and wrongs of what happened before are not relevant. His argument is that the full story has not been told, but he lost his case. He has no right to repeat his claims. That is the law. It is an 'open and shut case , your honour.' 

Completely agree

 he’s an idiot 

Even worse, people believe his nonsense about him being an oppressed political prisoner. Pretty pathetic going after a 15 year old.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Sadly, two of the people attacked at the Notting Hill Carnival have now died

[royal white]

22 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Sadly, two of the people attacked at the Notting Hill Carnival have now died

Carnivals ain’t it. We need to start to learn to expect these things, stabbing are human nature. 🙄

[Winchester White]

As a lad growing up in Blackrod and HTown we had a carnival every year. The HTown one especially was always a big family weekend event.

But, once it got late it was known for trouble with kids robbing other kids and fights breaking out all over the shop.

Now I live in Aggy and we still have a yearly carnival and it is just the same. But now the kids have knives. A friend of my youngest was attacked by some scrotes from miles away looking for trouble, he was lucky to get away with just a bit of a kicking as they all had knives on them.

Maybe we need more police and jail places? 🤪

[wanderer1984]

3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Sadly, two of the people attacked at the Notting Hill Carnival have now died

The other 999,998 survived so still mostly peaceful.

[only1swanny]

5 hours ago, royal white said:

Carnivals ain’t it. We need to start to learn to expect these things, stabbing are human nature. 🙄

Who made the daft human nature quote ? 

[London Wanderer]

17 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Who made the daft human nature quote ? 

A former police superintendent in a GB news interview. As always, it's  cut short and lacks context. Poor choice of words, but the fella is disagreeing with the other chap who's saying it has to be banned. 

RWs just peddling things that people haven't said.  More interested in making a point than recognising the victims. Nobody wants us to expect these things. But banning these events won't solve the problem, if only it was that simple. 

Edited August 31, 2024 by London Wanderer

[Winchester White]

Banning carnivals is clearly the solution.

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

The other 999,998 survived so still mostly peaceful.

There are other weekends across the year with equally bad knife homicides in London. And other areas of the UK. 

What's particularly awful about these recent ones is the innocent victims who were out attending the carnival with family. More innocent people seem to be getting caught in the crossfire of gang violence at the moment and nobody is arguing that this should become normal. Crime rates are a huge worry and NHC should look to make changes to keep people attending safe. 

Is the solution though to ban Notting hill Carnival? Or have we lost site of the bigger issue and the debate around reducing knife crime? Maybe we shouldn't be blaming the carnival but discussing harsher sentencing combined with other community centred approaches and early interventions.

There are loads of youth centres and other projects involved with the carnival that are helping give local youngsters opportunities and funding. I find it hard to understand why we should take away its licence.

[athywhite1958]

As long as it is scrotes killing scrotes I don't give a toss, but, innocent people are being killed/injured and that needs to be addressed urgently

[deeane Koontz]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d14xezgw4o

[royal white]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

A former police superintendent in a GB news interview. As always, it's  cut short and lacks context. Poor choice of words, but the fella is disagreeing with the other chap who's saying it has to be banned. 

RWs just peddling things that people haven't said.  More interested in making a point than recognising the victims. Nobody wants us to expect these things. But banning these events won't solve the problem, if only it was that simple. 

“Peddling  things that people haven’t said” Really? 

Decide for yourself @only1swanny If it was cut short or taken out of context. Looks pretty clear cut what he’s saying here.
 

Another pathetic comparison with football. I’d guess around 1 million fans have attended football this weekend including some very high profile games. Let’s compare the amount of stabbings, sexual assaults, injured/assaulted emergency workers and arrests and see how they measure up. 

[London Wanderer]

6 hours ago, royal white said:

“Peddling  things that people haven’t said” Really? 

Decide for yourself @only1swanny If it was cut short or taken out of context. Looks pretty clear cut what he’s saying here.
 

Another pathetic comparison with football. I’d guess around 1 million fans have attended football this weekend including some very high profile games. Let’s compare the amount of stabbings, sexual assaults, injured/assaulted emergency workers and arrests and see how they measure up. 

Nobody is suggesting it needs to measure up exactly 

The point is we don’t need to ban something because a violent minority offend

[bolty58]

It is never going to be stopped is it? Think about the Rochdale grooming gang inaction. There is not a cat in hells chance of anyone even discussing a ban on the NHC. Fear of the 'R' word will see to that.

[gonzo]

 

This is a good account for random bits of violence on the streets of London on a daily basis.

 

 

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 

This is a good account for random bits of violence on the streets of London on a daily basis.

 

 

Khan's London.

[deeane Koontz]

 

[Traf]

21 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

Kicked an Asian pensioner to death.

[wakey]

28 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

 

Khan's Leicestershire

[bolty58]

55 minutes ago, wakey said:

Khan's Leicestershire

WTF? Wakey, wakey, Wakey FFS.

Horrible little bastards. Interested to see what comes out of the police referring themselves to the IOPC as a result of earlier reports of the poor old chap being hassled by the same little scumbags.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Traf said:

Kicked an Asian pensioner to death.

What is the ethnicity of the kids, do we know?

 

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What is the ethnicity of the kids, do we know?

 

Yeah that’s what matters…dear me. 

[Traf]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

What is the ethnicity of the kids, do we know?

 

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