6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Glad you’re happy to pay more tax. We need more people like you. I’m guessing you’re rich because that’s who they said they were going to take the tax from. 

You'll enjoy the budget then. 👍

Im not rich, especially in national terms

But i expect ill be paying more

If it makes things better, it is what it is

i reckon its more likely to improve the country than giving it Hancocks mate

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

How do you define rich? 

I'd like to think most people would be happy to pay an extra 1p in the £ to try and get the country back on track. We have to pay back all that furlough money that was sponged away a few years ago (I heard the other day it was up to £70B)

Define rich? No idea. Ask all those who have been saying ‘tax the rich’ for years. The last government were criticised for hiking taxes more than any other and now people are saying ‘tax me more’ it’s crazy.

On the government hand outs during COVID, some said it was too much , some said it wasn’t enough🤷‍♂️

Hence the borrowing went through the roof. It’s going to go much higher very soon. 

Just to emphasise my totally neutral or subversive nature, a tweet by our chancellor just a few months ago. Yes, let’s all pay more tax. 
 

 

Commentators said it would get worse if Labour got in.

Given the level of protest about tax levels whilst in opposition, I genuinely wasn't convinced by commentators' views.

I was wrong.

So us pensioners have just chucked £500 into the pot...what  if everyone else did the same ?

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Just to emphasise my totally neutral or subversive nature, a tweet by our chancellor just a few months ago. Yes, let’s all pay more tax. 
 

 

You cant stop an ocean liner on a sixpence

1 minute ago, Dimron said:

So us pensioners have just chucked £500 into the pot...what  if everyone else did the same ?

You havent chucked anything in

Your money has gone up, hasnt it?

Id be pleasantly surprised if my bill only increases 500 quid

Are we definitely getting tax rises then? 

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Are we definitely getting tax rises then? 

One way another, certainly. The Nom Dom (😉) windfall ain’t going to happen so they’ll have to take it from somewhere. Middle income folk according to this report. 
 

https://www.cityam.com/labour-will-need-to-hill-the-non-dom-shaped-hole-in-their-tax-plans/

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

One way another, certainly. The Nom Dom (😉) windfall ain’t going to happen so they’ll have to take it from somewhere. Middle income folk according to this report. 
 

https://www.cityam.com/labour-will-need-to-hill-the-non-dom-shaped-hole-in-their-tax-plans/

Salary sacrifice incoming for me then. 

Nah, hes raiding pensions too

Self employed types will just bang another night out through the books 

What's a "middle income" deemed as these days? 

Anyway, I guess we'll find out soon enough, and if we don't like it we've only got to wait for five more years and then we can vote them out. 

4 minutes ago, Casino said:

Nah, hes raiding pensions too

Aye but they’ll be 40% more going in than if I had it paid in my wage packet. Reduce income to 20% tax bracket and anything above gets paid in at full whack into the pension pot. 

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1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Aye but they’ll be 40% more going in than if I had it paid in my wage packet. 

Plus your company should be tipping in the NI that they don't have to pay as well. That's what my last two companies did. 

Salary sacrifice is excellent

I heard the other day that 25% of pensioners are living in houses worth over a million £.

Now don't get me wrong, with the house price inflation (that somehow weird middle class people seem to love) that is no longer a massive amount.

But, that means to me we shouldn't be paying 300 quid to someone living in a house worth ee times the average salary for someone trying to get by

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

What's a "middle income" deemed as these days? 

Anyway, I guess we'll find out soon enough, and if we don't like it we've only got to wait for five more years and then we can vote them out. 

Of course. We can talk about the government during those next 4 years 9 months though. We talked about the Tory government for 14 years and chucked in Brexit in between. 

5 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Plus your company should be tipping in the NI that they don't have to pay as well. That's what my last two companies did. 

Salary sacrifice is excellent

Yep the NI is another bonus if you can negotiate that. Great tip.👍

1 minute ago, Winchester White said:

I heard the other day that 25% of pensioners are living in houses worth over a million £.

Now don't get me wrong, with the house price inflation (that somehow weird middle class people seem to love) that is no longer a massive amount.

But, that means to me we shouldn't be paying 300 quid to someone living in a house worth ee times the average salary for someone trying to get by

Maybe, maybe not.  We’ve discussed it many, many times. We used to use Mick Jagger as an example. What about the other 75%?

The ones that Labour themselves said in 2017 would freeze to death if the wfa was removed. 

2017?

 

The Labour Party of 2017 was an entirely different party in all but name

The pensioners we should be concerned about are those who fall just outside the pension credit threshold (and those who qualify but haven't registered to claim)

State pension has increased by around 40, yes, 40%, since then

Just now, Casino said:

State pension has increased by around 40, yes, 40%, since then

Fuel prices increase?,  Inflation? 40% of what. You need to give more information. Yes, more information.

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

State pension has increased by around 40, yes, 40%, since then

How much have energy prices gone up?