Meanwhile In England

[Alf Hartigan]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Breightmet has never been the finest place, but had to call in at the shops for some stuff on the way home.

Reminiscent of Shaun of the Dead.

A lovely looking dog sat there looking longingly at its owner, as he tucked into pasty/cakes. 

He saved it some crust or other!

I don’t mind Breighmet. Think we went to school together iirc 

[Cheese]

14 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Maybe just people don't want to live amongst asylum seekers or migrants?

I know I don't.

It's fucking rubbish driving through shit hole areas littered with foreigners or asylum folk nevermind living in one.

I don't want that for the area where I live. It's shit and horrible.

So you would like to move to another country to better your life?

[London Wanderer]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Maybe just people don't want to live amongst asylum seekers or migrants?

I know I don't.

It's fucking rubbish driving through shit hole areas littered with foreigners or asylum folk nevermind living in one.

I don't want that for the area where I live. It's shit and horrible.

 

 

Littered with foreigners… Crikey
 

Worked with volunteer asylum seekers in a kitchen for a couple of years. Got on well with them. Worked in classes with mostly ‘foreign’ kids & didn’t find it shit or horrible.

Each to their own I guess. Folk are often quick to make a judgement. 

Definitely an issue of dispersal & overcrowding in some areas. The asylum system is broken & we’re struggling with high rates of crime. Areas that are tense as it is a feeling the pressure for sure. So I’m not denying there’s an issue.
 

But when you drive through an area that’s deprived & has a lot of foreign people living there, you’ll find the vast majority are just trying to get by & living by the law. The vast majority of asylum seekers & migrants aren’t bad people either. As much as we need a better balance & to clear the backlog , they’re not at fault for our crumbling society. It would help if they could work whilst they’re waiting on a claim.

 You know people are believing a lot of shite when they decide these people needing torching out of buildings. 

[gonzo]

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So you would like to move to another country to better your life?

I'd love to move to a nice sunny affluent area yes.

Would you not?

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Littered with foreigners… Crikey
 

Worked with volunteer asylum seekers in a kitchen for a couple of years. Got on well with them. Worked in classes with mostly ‘foreign’ kids & didn’t find it shit or horrible.

Each to their own I guess. Folk are often quick to make a judgement. 

Definitely an issue of dispersal & overcrowding in some areas. The asylum system is broken & we’re struggling with high rates of crime. Areas that are tense as it is a feeling the pressure for sure. So I’m not denying there’s an issue.
 

But when you drive through an area that’s deprived & has a lot of foreign people living there, you’ll find the vast majority are just trying to get by & living by the law. The vast majority of asylum seekers & migrants aren’t bad people either. As much as we need a better balance & to clear the backlog , they’re not at fault for our crumbling society. It would help if they could work whilst they’re waiting on a claim.

 You know people are believing a lot of shite when they decide these people needing torching out of buildings. 

Do you want to live on central drive in Blackpool, Gibraltar St in Bolton, or any other place that fits that bill?

 

Edited October 19 by gonzo

[Cheese]

Just now, gonzo said:

I'd love to move to a nice sunny affluent area yes.

Do you want to live on central drive in Blackpool, Gibraltar St in Bolton, or any other place that fits that bill?

I'd wager a bet that the majority of zombified spice-heads that stumble around Blackpool are British-born. Your issue is probably deprivation.

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

I'd wager a bet that the majority of zombified spice-heads that stumble around Blackpool are British-born. Your issue is probably deprivation.

I don't live in Blackpool.

There's fuck all wrong with the area I live in. 

Do I want my area filled with asylum seekers or migrants?

Do I fuck.

Do you want your area filled with asylum seekers and migrants? 

Yes or no.

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I'd love to move to a nice sunny affluent area yes.

Would you not?

Do you want to live on central drive in Blackpool, Gibraltar St in Bolton, or any other place that fits that bill?

 

The “would you go live there argument” never makes any sense. It doesn’t prove a point.

I’ve lived in similar areas in the past.

I like my current flat. But I’ve a raging alcoholic below me who can’t look after his place & stinks out the common area regularly. 
 

I wouldn’t want to go live in some backwards Cotswold village either. That’s a stereotype I know 😁
 

The issue, like Cheese says is depravation. Yes it’s shit to see, it’s depressing as well. Call me a woke bastard, but I don’t see these areas & think look at all those horrible people it’s their fault. 

[Cheese]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I don't live in Blackpool.

There's fuck all wrong with the area I live in. 

Do I want my area filled with asylum seekers or migrants?

Do I fuck.

Do you want your area filled with asylum seekers and migrants? 

Yes or no.

What you complaining about then? (YOU used Central Drive in Blackpool as an example by the way)

To answer your question - I don't give a fuck what race or nationality my neighbours are.

Edited October 19 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

7 minutes ago, gonzo said:

I don't live in Blackpool.

There's fuck all wrong with the area I live in. 

Do I want my area filled with asylum seekers or migrants?

Do I fuck.

Do you want your area filled with asylum seekers and migrants? 

Yes or no.

Again

Its a nonsense question to prove a point.

 It’s clear we need better dispersal & management of the backlog & numbers.

Nobody is saying otherwise 

[London Wanderer]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I don't give a fuck what race or nationality my neighbours are.

 The riots were depressing.

Clearly showed how many people feel threatened by asylum seekers & foreigners still. And feel they’re to blame for the state the country is in. It’s a viscous cycle that I naively thought we might have moved past.

[gonzo]

Talking out of your fucking arses.

Would you both want a shit load of asylum seekers or migrants moving next door?

Would you fuck. Pair of absolute liars.

 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Talking out of your fucking arses.

Would you both want a shit load of asylum seekers or migrants moving next door?

Would you fuck. Pair of absolute liars.

Are you on a wind up or what?

Edited October 19 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Talking out of your fucking arses.

Would you both want a shit load of asylum seekers or migrants moving next door?

Would you fuck. Pair of absolute liars.

 

You’re asking nonsense questions mate.

Completely lost track of the point you’re trying to make.

I wouldn’t give a flying fck if an asylum seeker moved in next door. Probably prefer that to the raging alcoholic 😁 I’ve a hotel down the road that houses them & it has made fck all difference to my life. Other than it not being good use of tax payers money. Let them work. 
 

Yes it would be an issue if 20 moved into a 2 bed flat next door, or a tent city popped up on my street corner. But that’s not the point you were making.

 You’ve been watching to many Tommy Robinson videos again… Those algorithms have got the better of you.

[royal white]

5 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You’re asking nonsense questions mate.

Completely lost track of the point you’re trying to make.

I wouldn’t give a flying fck if an asylum seeker moved in next door. Probably prefer that to the raging alcoholic 😁 I’ve a hotel down the road that houses them & it has made fck all difference to my life. Other than it not being good use of tax payers money. Let them work. 
 

Yes it would be an issue if 20 moved into a 2 bed flat next door, or a tent city popped up on my street corner. But that’s not the point you were making.

 You’ve been watching to many Tommy Robinson videos again… Those algorithms have got the better of you.

He said he didn’t want to live in an area littered with foreigners, that’s pretty much an example you have given and agreed with. 

[London Wanderer]

23 minutes ago, royal white said:

He said he didn’t want to live in an area littered with foreigners, that’s pretty much an example you have given and agreed with. 

He wasn’t quite that specific 🤔 

The first post was “ maybe people don’t want to live amongst foreigners “

Nobody wants their area suddenly overrun with people. Whether they were asylum seekers, Tories or bloody Quakers. 

 It’s an odd question to ask. Because the answer is a common sense one.

I’ve not denied there is an issue in these areas. Mainly with depravation. I’m not disagreeing with everything Gs saying, which is why you’ll find things we agree on. So well spotted 👍

I’m just highlighting a point that language & who we lay the blame at is important. Especially after many of these areas ‘littered with foreigners’ saw businesses & innocent folk attacked a few months back. 

Edited October 19 by London Wanderer

[Sweep]

3 hours ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Howfen is fucking ace. Don’t need a different country. All the pubs are cheap too 😀

I've been, it's not

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Haha I actually live in Thornton which is far too posh for a scum fuck like me

Just had enough of the country. Divided sithole with shit services, increasing taxes and fuck all to show for it.

Rubbish weather just seals the deal.

Help is here mate when you are ready.

[mickbrown]

52 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Help is here mate when you are ready.

I’m retiring there (well half the year). Keep a scooter spare 😁

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, mickbrown said:

I’m retiring there (well half the year). Keep a scooter spare 😁

Seriously mate, if there's anything I can help/advise with let me know. Same goes for anybody off here.

I am now down to 3 scooters. The special edition 25th anniversary PX was the subject of an offer I couldn't refuse. Cash too (from a Millwall fan). Still got the two classics and the heavily customised PX so you'll be reet 

 

[royal white]

7 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

He wasn’t quite that specific 🤔 

The first post was “ maybe people don’t want to live amongst foreigners “

Nobody wants their area suddenly overrun with people. Whether they were asylum seekers, Tories or bloody Quakers. 

 It’s an odd question to ask. Because the answer is a common sense one.

I’ve not denied there is an issue in these areas. Mainly with depravation. I’m not disagreeing with everything Gs saying, which is why you’ll find things we agree on. So well spotted 👍

I’m just highlighting a point that language & who we lay the blame at is important. Especially after many of these areas ‘littered with foreigners’ saw businesses & innocent folk attacked a few months back. 

 Also areas “littered with foreigners “ saw locals and local business attacked by said foreigners 👍

[gonzo]

8 hours ago, Cheese said:

Are you on a wind up or what?

I'm not blaming anyone for anything.

I'm simply saying I wouldn't want my street to turn in a ghetto like other areas in town.

People are happy for other areas to look like a back street in Bucharest but not their own.

My angst against this country has absolutely nothing to do with foreign folk or migration. It's about our wank weather, shite economy and being led by corrupt donkeys. There's better lives to be lived elsewhere imo.

 

 

[London Wanderer]

51 minutes ago, royal white said:

 Also areas “littered with foreigners “ saw locals and local business attacked by said foreigners 👍

But but whatabout this that happened as well😁

[royal white]

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

But but whatabout this that happened as well😁

Well it’s easy to blame one side to suit your argument isn’t it. 👍

[BobyBrno]

10 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

They were all clearly part of the same rant.

 

“Increased number of apparent smack heads, layabouts, alkies, wandering migrants/asylum seekers, thieving twats and general scrotes.”

if that’s not putting them all in the same bracket then I’m not sure what is?

I get to Bolton when I can, not going to spend more time there just so I can understand a post more 😁 I’ve lived in areas with a large immigrant populations before.

 It’s easier if you just enlighten me though. What are these asylum seekers/migrants doing that’s upsetting you when they walk about? And how are you so certain they’re a migrant or asylum seeker?

He said wandering about. ie. No purpose and contributing nowt was how I read it. That does intimidate many people, especially young girls and women. 
If I walk up to the hospital near me, I’ll see lots of immigrants working. I really don’t think anyone has a problem with those on here. 

[gonzo]

15 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

He said wandering about. ie. No purpose and contributing nowt was how I read it. That does intimidate many people, especially young girls and women. 
If I walk up to the hospital near me, I’ll see lots of immigrants working. I really don’t think anyone has a problem with those on here. 

Indeed. Migration is marvellous. We absolutely need migrants as a nation to survive.

The NHS would be screwed without it and so would a lot of other sectors.

But unfortunately there's a shit side of the unfettered migration that generates absolute hell hole ghettos Littered with gangs of Romanians/Albanians/etc. Hotels full to the brim of asylum folk all draining the system.