royal white Posted September 30 Author Posted September 30 2 minutes ago, Casino said: State pension has increased by around 40, yes, 40%, since then How much have energy prices gone up? Quote
BobyBrno Posted September 30 Posted September 30 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: The Labour Party of 2017 was an entirely different party in all but name The pensioners we should be concerned about are those who fall just outside the pension credit threshold (and those who qualify but haven't registered to claim) Haven’t we been saying that from day one of the announcement? Quote
Moderators Casino Posted September 30 Moderators Posted September 30 25 minutes ago, royal white said: How much have energy prices gone up? A lot more than my salary Quote
Moderators Casino Posted September 30 Moderators Posted September 30 29 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Fuel prices increase?, Inflation? 40% of what. You need to give more information. Yes, more information. The pension increase is round about 3k a year, i think Beyond that, look it up Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 30 Members Posted September 30 34 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Haven’t we been saying that from day one of the announcement? Yes Quote
Not in Crawley Posted September 30 Posted September 30 50 minutes ago, royal white said: How much have energy prices gone up? A huge amount - has your bill not? Quote
royal white Posted September 30 Author Posted September 30 2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: A huge amount - has your bill not? Yep Quote
Not in Crawley Posted September 30 Posted September 30 11 minutes ago, royal white said: Yep I've had to stop our middle daughter from doing her hair twice every day! It's jumped quite a bit. Quote
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 30 Site Supporter Posted September 30 3 minutes ago, Dimron said: Do we make steel anymore? Why do you ask? Quote
Dimron Posted September 30 Posted September 30 Just now, Spider said: Why do you ask? Newport shut down their last blast furnace today Quote
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 30 Members Posted September 30 14 minutes ago, Dimron said: Do we make steel anymore? No Quote
Not in Crawley Posted September 30 Posted September 30 8 minutes ago, Dimron said: Newport shut down their last blast furnace today We are the first major economy to start moving away from old steel and coal production. The new government have guaranteed that if they don't employe the same amount of people back (which they wont) they will pay back the money the previous government said they could have on the basis that the state will give money to rebuild a new way of producing steel. But ultimately, loads of people are going to be out of work after being skilled doing a job for 30 odd years in a place without opportunity. It's shit - but I'm sure the true blues would say that's just capitalism. Get on your bike etc etc Quote
Moderators Zico Posted October 1 Moderators Posted October 1 4 hours ago, BobyBrno said: Maybe, maybe not. We’ve discussed it many, many times. We used to use Mick Jagger as an example. What about the other 75%? The ones that Labour themselves said in 2017 would freeze to death if the wfa was removed. Reckon lockdown did more Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1 Site Supporter Posted October 1 (edited) 8 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: We are the first major economy to start moving away from old steel and coal production. The new government have guaranteed that if they don't employe the same amount of people back (which they wont) they will pay back the money the previous government said they could have on the basis that the state will give money to rebuild a new way of producing steel. But ultimately, loads of people are going to be out of work after being skilled doing a job for 30 odd years in a place without opportunity. It's shit - but I'm sure the true blues would say that's just capitalism. Get on your bike etc etc A necessary evil. Electric arc is the future, and any subsequent developments. We've often touched upon steel making, and whether the modern methods can produce "virgin" steel; it seems the recycling method produces product of the same quality, and just needs scrap to do so. Last coal fired power station goes today too. Countries can't stand still. Forgot to add: https://www.ellandsteel.com/bos-eaf-in-steel-manufacturing/ Edited October 1 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote
BobyBrno Posted October 1 Posted October 1 9 hours ago, Casino said: The pension increase is round about 3k a year, i think Beyond that, look it up So it’s gone up to £11,502 for the state pension and £8814 for the old pension ie those over 73. 40% of not a lot is really not a lot really. Still one of the lowest in Europe. I think the poverty wage level for a single person is £13,000. Quote
kent_white Posted October 1 Posted October 1 11 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: I've had to stop our middle daughter from doing her hair twice every day! It's jumped quite a bit. You could show a bit of solidarity towards her by reducing the number of times you do yours from 5 to 4 😁 Quote
Dimron Posted October 1 Posted October 1 12 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: We are the first major economy to start moving away from old steel and coal production. The new government have guaranteed that if they don't employe the same amount of people back (which they wont) they will pay back the money the previous government said they could have on the basis that the state will give money to rebuild a new way of producing steel. But ultimately, loads of people are going to be out of work after being skilled doing a job for 30 odd years in a place without opportunity. It's shit - but I'm sure the true blues would say that's just capitalism. Get on your bike etc etc Interesting that China and India are upping their blast furnace production including "super furnaces"... but they do enjoy cheaper Russian gas and oil. We then import cheap MG cars (which it appears are becoming prone to rust) Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 1 Site Supporter Posted October 1 1 hour ago, Dimron said: Interesting that China and India are upping their blast furnace production including "super furnaces"... but they do enjoy cheaper Russian gas and oil. We then import cheap MG cars (which it appears are becoming prone to rust) Not sure many folk realise that MG is now a Chinese brand! Quote
Sweep Posted October 1 Posted October 1 15 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: But ultimately, loads of people are going to be out of work after being skilled doing a job for 30 odd years in a place without opportunity. It's shit - but I'm sure the true blues would say that's just capitalism. Get on your bike etc etc They can go fruit and veg picking in East Anglia. It's about time more of our own did this sort of work, rather than relying on cheap labour from Europe (didn't some dick the other day suggest if we employ UK people in these type of low pay jobs, it'll actually drive the low wages up as well 🤣) Quote
Not in Crawley Posted October 1 Posted October 1 6 minutes ago, Sweep said: They can go fruit and veg picking in East Anglia. It's about time more of our own did this sort of work, rather than relying on cheap labour from Europe (didn't some dick the other day suggest if we employ UK people in these type of low pay jobs, it'll actually drive the low wages up as well 🤣) It was mentioned and then someone got all pernickety about the use of the word 'work' in relation to inflation - totally missing the point as per. Anyway, sod working out in the fields - they should join Thanet Earth https://www.thanetearth.com/ Quote
Dimron Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Not sure many folk realise that MG is now a Chinese brand! China currently has something like 60% of the world lithium battery share increasing to 80% according to some sources... that coupled with being the world's biggest steel producer at over 50% means they can flood our market with cheap EV cars. Should we consider import levies on Chinese cars etc? Especially as they agreed a $400 billion gas deal with Russia on the back of our sanctions. Our industry continues to be decimated by Chinese imports which effectively mean we are still polluting the atmosphere and supporting the Russian gas industry while putting our own citizens into poverty. Mad innit? Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 1 Moderators Posted October 1 9 hours ago, BobyBrno said: So it’s gone up to £11,502 for the state pension and £8814 for the old pension ie those over 73. 40% of not a lot is really not a lot really. Still one of the lowest in Europe. I think the poverty wage level for a single person is £13,000. i didn't say its great, but its been steadily increasing and this years (8.5%) increase is greater than the WFA - which will still go to pensioners with the lowest income a bigger issue for pensioners, imo, is that the tories having frozen tax thresholds forever and a day, means that next year folk only getting state pension will be paying tax - i think, happy to be corrected? Quote
athywhite1958 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I pay tax on my salary, on my prison service pension and no doubt I will do so on my state pension (next month), robbing cnuts Quote
Moderators Casino Posted October 1 Moderators Posted October 1 9 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I pay tax on my salary, on my prison service pension and no doubt I will do so on my state pension (next month), robbing cnuts seems fair enough i won't ever be paying tax on all 3 but only cos i'll not be working and receiving state pension at the same time fuck that Quote
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