royal white Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, superkev said: He’s aware we’ve not scored enough goals. He admitted that. It’s about evolving and tweaking not just suddenly ripping up your principles and shithousing our way out of this league. Been there, seen that and it’s boring Scoring goals is not tweaking. It’s pretty much the most important part of the game. Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Much as i love Evatt's brand of football, is hoofball eg Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday more suited to getting you out of Div 1. Quote
superkev Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: Much as i love Evatt's brand of football, is hoofball eg Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday more suited to getting you out of Div 1. Possibly is yes, but I’ve seen enough of that shit over the years and I want to watch some good football. Maybe I’ve chilled as I’ve got older and seen the good and the shit along the way. I’d rather try and do it playing some slick stuff. To be honest I’m not really bothered about what league we’re in. It just been good to have some good times back. 15-20 years ago if we lost I’d be fuming for days over analysing stuff. I’m a lot more relaxed about it nowadays Edited May 20, 2023 by superkev Quote
Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2023 Moderators Posted May 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: Much as i love Evatt's brand of football, is hoofball eg Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday more suited to getting you out of Div Barnsley arent hoofball Theyre very organised, theyre big, they make the most of set pieces, but it aint hoofball None of the top 4 play hoofball Quote
Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2023 Moderators Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, superkev said: Possibly is yes, but I’ve seen enough of that shit over the years and I want to watch some good football. Maybe I’ve chilled as I’ve got older and seen the good and the shit along the way. I’d rather try and do it playing some slick stuff. To be honest I’m not really bothered about what league we’re in. It just been good to have some good times back I think i said that above! Quote
medwaywhite Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 8 hours ago, gonzo said: Both my lads were in tears singing their hearts out 💙 Fuck Wembley, we'd have been outnumbered 2:1 and probably beaten. Fuck the championship, we'd get twatted every week and all the good feeling lost. We go again next season. I love Ian Evatt And I love Bolton Wanderers. (Even though its 1:22am and I've cunting work in the morning) Spot on mate Quote
Big E Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, superkev said: He’s aware we’ve not scored enough goals. He admitted that. It’s about evolving and tweaking not just suddenly ripping up your principles and shithousing our way out of this league. Been there, seen that and it’s boring He may know that but he doesn’t seem to show it with his game management. We don’t shit house it. We don’t bully. We don’t push. We just pass in pretty triangles at the back Quote
Moderators Casino Posted May 20, 2023 Moderators Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Big E said: He may know that but he doesn’t seem to show it with his game management. We don’t shit house it. We don’t bully. We don’t push. We just pass in pretty triangles at the back Clearly missed your way, you lad Anyway, its sunny Speak soon xx Quote
Ani Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, captainmed said: That’s like saying the number one serial poster of total bullshit and contradiction is not in the building trade. Some kind of Manager yet finds enormous amounts of time to post constantly on here during normal working hours. As i’ve said before, true colours shown once again last night. Water finds its own level and I sincerely hope that you fuck off soon as most do and maybe spend more time with your family and do some fucking work. Have you got the wrong person here ? Quote
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted May 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 20, 2023 I was happy with the team pre-match last night but Thomason looked very rusty. Hindsight and all that but maybe we'd have been better served starting Sheehan. I quite like Randall Williams, the good bits he does suggests with a good pre-season, there's miles more to come. I'm not too down beat. Evatt will sort us out, he'll have his list ready to go Quote
Site Supporter desperado Posted May 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 20, 2023 7 hours ago, Traf said: Got back at 1am after a long drive and time to reflect. A disappointing end to what has to be considered a successful season. Barnsley were better than us over 46 games and were better than us in the play-offs. 5th best in the league is what we are and that's better than last year and we won a cup. We go again. Superb unwavering support tonight, everyone should be proud of the part they played. 6 hours ago, TM Trotter said: Beaten by a side that, in truth, were just... better over two legs. Would have loved a jaunt to Wembley (in Kent for a wedding Saturday so it would have been perfect), but you know what? - We've improved on last year (again). - We won a cup (the first I remember, and ill never forget). - The fans are flocking back (although, I miss my legroom tbf). We weren't ready for a promotion, and that's fine. We didn't perform brilliantly against a side that deserved it more, and while its disappointing, thats also, kind of, fine. We're on a journey. I love that we're in the third tier, still *trying* to play the game beautifully against cloggers like that. The last week was shit. Really it was - for me, there's no point defending it, castigated it, or overanalysing. But honestly, I'd rather buy into the long term project we have here; building our way back up from death's door towards something massive; than yo-yoing between tiers 2 and 3 like your Barnsleys, your Rotherhams, your wage-dodging jokers down the A58. I'm proud as fuck of this club and what it stands for right now.... and I can't wait to see what next season will bring. No single flaccid evening in South Yorkshire will change that. COYFWM Great 2 posts 👏. A shit week - but pointless over analysing it. We didn’t do enough generally. No individuals to blame. We looked good till they scored. Then 4th held in against 5th. No disgrace in that. Upward curve under Evatt. We go again next year. Well done to all who went - you did us proud. The big game awayers are going to have to be keen to go to Stevenage, Orient, Cheltenham etc - We certainly will be. At least then, with a priority system in place, the likes of Salford, Blackpool, Fleetwood etc will be easier to come by and we won’t miss out on big games like we did last night. Quote
Big E Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Clearly missed your way, you lad Anyway, its sunny Speak soon xx I don’t know what I am missing? Explain? I am not saying we have had a bad season but we also are not going up next season as we are. We now have a lot of nothing up front. I want him to learn from mistakes but tippy tappy at the back when we need a goal isn’t it. Again. 68% possession and no shots on target. playing ourselves in to dangers at the back is madness and we do it a lot. Quote
tomski Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Big E said: I don’t know what I am missing? Explain? I am not saying we have had a bad season but we also are not going up next season as we are. We now have a lot of nothing up front. I want him to learn from mistakes but tippy tappy at the back when we need a goal isn’t it. Again. 68% possession and no shots on target. playing ourselves in to dangers at the back is madness and we do it a lot. You didn’t miss any shots on target😂 Quote
Traf Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 3 hours ago, radcliffe white said: I bet that working man’s club cashed in last night, decent little place plenty of familiar faces in £3.50 a bottle straight out of his "Asda 3 for £20" boxes and cash only? Yeah, I reckon he did well out of it, HMRC not so much 😉 Quote
Ani Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 There is a massive gap between going from 'Evattball' to 'hoofball' Anyone saying we do not need another dynamic and street wise midfielder is IMO wrong. What is our best midfield based on the season ? Morley and Dempsey plus AN other. So who is the 'other' ? Early season I would have said Lee, but he has struggled , Thomason tries but lacks quality, Sheehan anonymous in big games, MJ no attacking threat. All 4 can do a job but if you are honest would any of the 4 improve any of the top six ? We are a developing and improving team and to move to the next level we need that extra bit in midfield. Quote
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 20, 2023 6 hours ago, perth_white said: I'm more in agreement with the last few posts than some of the ill tempered ones just after the final whistle. We didn't play well enough and much of that was down to playing against a well organised good side in Barnsley. Looking forward to next season. Morley seems to have become the whipping boy at the moment, I'm sure he was being lauded not too long ago. We go again next year, aiming for the top two spots with a club that bit healthier in all aspects, a bright young manager, team and owners who we can be proud of. Yep. Morley shite, Thomason shite, Toal shite, Johnston shite etc etc. Fucking hell, I hope Evatt keeps them away from social media. Of course improvements need to be made to achieve further promotion, but some of the comments are way over the top. Fwiw, I believe the manager and staff deserve as much stick as the players over the course of the two games, but that doesn't have to be insidious, nasty vitriol. Enjoy the summer. Quote
jayjayoghani Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Haven't seen much of BWFC this season, the kick off times being against me. Thats my caveat but a couple of observations. Santos cleared every cross in the first game, they bypass him and they score. Actually thought we shaded it prior to them scoring but that goal really knocked us. Someone put a stat about Barnsleys results if they score first and if they go behind. Perhaps the players knew it too. Oh they nobbled Bradley and the ref did fuck all. Edited May 20, 2023 by jayjayoghani Quote
Traf Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 Felt a bit for Toal last night. Love the guy, he's done really well for us, but possibly his worst game for us last night. Quote
Lostock Whites Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 We have to score more goals though next season, that's been our downfall and we're we've come short. 60 goals isn't enough to get top 2 Quote
woolli Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Farnywhite said: Can’t understand why we brought 2 big lumps on in the end and never got the ball into the mixer to cause a bit of panic . Every other team in the world does it when you need a goal in a situation like that . And we’re going sideways Exactly, in one. I remember years ago if we where losing in the last 5/10 minutes we used to put Paul Jones ( centre half) up front and get it lumped into the mixer. Sheff W did it for 120 minutes, and scored 5! Im not saying play like that for the majority of the game, but, for fucks sake, we was still passing it sideways in the last 5/10 minutes instead of going more route one. Quote
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted May 20, 2023 Site Supporter Posted May 20, 2023 If we had equalised, we'd have been fooked in extra time with Sheehan our holding player, play maker and box to box player. What would our formation have been? 3-1-6 Quote
barrycowdrill Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 If one piece of football last night typified us our season our lack of willingness to shoot or the reason why we haven’t scored enough it was the Bradley opportunity 2nd half. decent build up play and movement to work the opportunity, he dips inside the defender, 8yards out, corner of the 6 yard box and rather than just put his laces through it he goes down trying to win a pen anything could of happened there if he had taken the chance on. If one of theirs was in that position he’d of shot and probably scored. We’re so process driven it’s like it’s been drilled out of them to take a chance. There’s absolutely no shoot on sight kind of policy Quote
tomski Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Biggish Dave said: If we had equalised, we'd have been fooked in extra time with Sheehan our holding player, play maker and box to box player. What would our formation have been? 3-1-6 Exactly my thoughts. The subs just suggested to me that we’d thrown the towel in. Quote
kent_white Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 I didn't think Taol or Santos looked 100% fit last night. We've probably been over reliant on Bradley all season. Bump him out of the game and then we seem to have very few options left. Seen over the course of a week, it's a disaster. Seen over the course of a couple of years and it's year on year progress. I think there's quite a bit of pressure on IE next season. And certainly on the recruitment team over the summer. Quote
waffer cup 07 Posted May 20, 2023 Posted May 20, 2023 45 minutes ago, Casino said: Barnsley arent hoofball Theyre very organised, theyre big, they make the most of set pieces, but it aint hoofball None of the top 4 play hoofball Its a lot nearer hoofball than our building from the back passing game. Quote
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