Moderators Casino Posted November 23, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 hours ago, tomski said: It’s also laughable that the Irish who must of be the most exported nation of people on the planet are getting on their high horse about immigration. Fantastic point, young man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Casino said: Fantastic point, young man Other than the fact they are on their high horse because an Algerian immigrant stabbed a child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Other than the fact they are on their high horse because an Algerian immigrant stabbed a child. High horse…. They’ve attacked innocent people, the police & set fire to property. We don’t even know the full picture, yet we’ve had two posters sympathise with the protesters. because he was Algerian… fckn hell I’m sure this is just what the police & families needed in the immediate aftermath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 23, 2023 Moderators Share Posted November 23, 2023 Locals fighting back against foreigners = OK in Ireland, bad in Palastine Mental note made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: High horse…. They’ve attacked innocent people, the police & set fire to property. We don’t even know the full picture, yet we’ve had two posters sympathise with the protesters. because he was Algerian… fckn hell I’m sure this is just what the police & families needed in the immediate aftermath. I wasn’t condoning the riots, just questioning the rationale in the comparison made between an immigrant who’s stabbed a child and the fact the Irish have emigrated to all corners of the globe. Edited November 23, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 I'm finding this very confusing as an lapsed Catholic Englisman of Irish descent. Every time I see Wanderers fans getting all Rangers I just want to break into 'Walking in McGinlay wonderland' This lot must be descendents of the mob that went a bit Nazi during ww2 - my enemy's enemy is my friend can often end in tears. This is complete horseshit (dropped by horses running through council estates tended by men with eyebrows on their cheeks). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Fkin far right Brazilians over there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 7 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: I wasn’t condoning the riots, hmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, mickbrown said: Was another immigrant who took him out apparently. An American according to the lady on the report. Not sure what the status of the "defender" has anything to do with the situation. Muslim, Jew or whatever. Simple fact remains that mass migration, particularly of Muslims, is leading to severe problems all over the western world. Plenty of stabbings etc. Folk can moralise, and try to draw equivalence, but that completely misses the point. If such stabbings weren't being repeated all over, then the inevitable backlashes wouldn't happen. It was patently obvious that this would happen eventually and only now are there signs that political figures are waking up from their ideological slumber. Police officers immediately shifting focus and labelling everyone as far right won't help. Any such event will always attract opportunists and all sorts of folk looking for a bit of kick-off, but if senior figures then are seen to be shifting focus from the underlying issue, then they run the risk of simply fanning the flames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 24, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted November 24, 2023 Still not sure how a load of Celtic fans stealing tellies from Rumbelows is the right response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: I wasn’t condoning the riots, just questioning the rationale in the comparison made between an immigrant who’s stabbed a child and the fact the British have colonised in all corners of the globe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 8 hours ago, London Wanderer said: High horse…. They’ve attacked innocent people, the police & set fire to property. We don’t even know the full picture, yet we’ve had two posters sympathise with the protesters. because he was Algerian… fckn hell I’m sure this is just what the police & families needed in the immediate aftermath. Always crosses my mind that it must be awfully sad when parents soon see sympathy as a hijacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 9 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: Think I mentioned earlier to fatolive. Don’t think anyone is taking this as a slant on the Irish pal. It could of happened anywhere and often does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, tomski said: Think I mentioned earlier to fatolive. Don’t think anyone is taking this as a slant on the Irish pal. It could of happened anywhere and often does. No probs chief I certainly don't consider myself Irish. I'm making the point that Irish people today are as responsible for their ancestors emigrating in previous generations as British folk for their ancestors being colonialists - ie they are not. Some Irish might even argue that its the British that are responsible for Irish emigration during the famine. But if they can afford to emigrate, they can afford to eat in a modest restaurant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: No probs chief I certainly don't consider myself Irish. I'm making the point that Irish people today are as responsible for their ancestors emigrating in previous generations as British folk for their ancestors being colonialists - ie they are not. Some Irish might even argue that its the British that are responsible for Irish emigration during the famine. But if they can afford to emigrate, they can afford to eat in a modest restaurant. Agree on the responsibility of ancestors. Always have done. Find it odd anyone has to apologise for something before they were even born. As someone who doesn’t think immigration is a bad thing I don’t think it’s a defensive point and it’s empowered a lot of people to go and have better lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 11 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: The report gives no details of the attacker. That said, if an immigrant has done it, then maybe there is reason for climbing on the horse. Wouldn't be the first time in western nations. Let's just keep it in perspective. Nothing to do with terrorism, asylum seekers or inability to assimilate. Mental problems for certain. It always is these days. They are saying "you can't handle the truth". Everything is the fault of 'far right' protestors. An easier target/deflection technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 11 hours ago, gonzo said: Algerian apparently. Who would have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 11 hours ago, tomski said: To go and firebomb cars and hostels. A huge number and something effecting me personably. Attacking people who have nothing to do with what’s gone on. Miserable stuff it’s deemed ok for me. Right then, where shall we start? You want a few hundred examples? Bataclan, London Bridge, Lee Rigby, 7/7, Madrid train bombing, 9/11, Bali bombings, Sharm El Sheik, Boston Marathon, Parramatta................fuck it, I'll be here all night. I'll give you a prize if you can spot the common denominator. Like Walshaw Wahid, you just don't want to see the truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: It boils my piss how the press always lay the blame at far right protestors. The easy way out. Wokism at its finest. Can't blame the poor oppressed savage murderers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 9 hours ago, Casino said: Fantastic point, young man Is it fuck. It's idiotic. As far as I can see, Irish immigrants went to places they could assimilate easily. You and Wahid can, however, enlighten me as to how many migrated to Islamic states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 8 hours ago, Casino said: Locals fighting back against foreigners = OK in Ireland, bad in Palastine Mental note made The operative word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Is it fuck. It's idiotic. As far as I can see, Irish immigrants went to places they could assimilate easily. You and Wahid can, however, enlighten me as to how many migrated to Islamic states. Which one of us is Wahid? 😂 Yeah they smoothed in really well to New York in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No stabbings at all. Just doesn’t fit the narrative. Edited November 24, 2023 by tomski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 44 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: Why you bringing the British into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted November 24, 2023 Members Share Posted November 24, 2023 1 minute ago, tomski said: Which one of us is Wahid? 😂 Yeah they smoothed in really well to New York in the 19th and early 20th centuries. No stabbings at all. Just doesn’t fit the narrative. You can deflect all you want pal. You know the root cause of all this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted November 24, 2023 Share Posted November 24, 2023 Just now, bolty58 said: You can deflect all you want pal. You know the root cause of all this. I don’t disagree with some points but I’ll not be tarring everyone with the same brush unless they are Man U fans. Everyone deserves a chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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