Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 11, 2025 Posted April 11, 2025 Another interview, this time with a former top detective in West Yorkshire police. Conducting his own investigation into grooming in the city of Bradford. Was threatened with arrest, and told to back off by a very senior officer because his work may disrupt community cohesion, and risk a backlash. But hey, no need for a full, legally empowered public inquiry, just leave it to local authorities to opt in to having their own, with no powers to force individuals to bother. Quote
bolty58 Posted September 11, 2025 Posted September 11, 2025 A good friend sent this to me. I wonder if the defenders will be able to dismiss this? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 12, 2025 Posted September 12, 2025 Truly incredible that. Some time ago my m-i-l explained that during her career she had witnessed a change in government policy and its effects on behaviour. She worked in the education sector, particularly with children with no English. Her comment was that this had been going on since the 60s. I found that almost unbelievable, but this film qualifies it. She, and no doubt hundreds like her will never be called to any full inquiry- if one ever happens- and you wonder just how effective one would be in fully rooting out all those complicit. Quote
Cheese Posted September 12, 2025 Posted September 12, 2025 22 hours ago, bolty58 said: A good friend sent this to me. I wonder if the defenders will be able to dismiss this? You're the only 'defender' of nonces on here. Quote
bolty58 Posted September 12, 2025 Posted September 12, 2025 28 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Truly incredible that. Some time ago my m-i-l explained that during her career she had witnessed a change in government policy and its effects on behaviour. She worked in the education sector, particularly with children with no English. Her comment was that this had been going on since the 60s. I found that almost unbelievable, but this film qualifies it. She, and no doubt hundreds like her will never be called to any full inquiry- if one ever happens- and you wonder just how effective one would be in fully rooting out all those complicit. Yes mate - truly mind blowing the stuff in this film. Police, local politicians and community leaders all complicit in cover ups? The inquiry parameters were an absolute joke. Durham? FFS, you may have well included Esher and Basingstoke. All part of the smokescreen. Hard to believe that this could happen in the UK. Reasons? "Social cohesion" (well fuck that for a start - what is required is the complete opposite until this cancer is driven out). More likely those who allowed them in covering their arses and not wanting any come backs. Utterly fucking shameful. Quote
DazBob Posted September 14, 2025 Posted September 14, 2025 On 12/09/2025 at 08:50, bolty58 said: Yes mate - truly mind blowing the stuff in this film. Police, local politicians and community leaders all complicit in cover ups? The inquiry parameters were an absolute joke. Durham? FFS, you may have well included Esher and Basingstoke. All part of the smokescreen. Hard to believe that this could happen in the UK. Reasons? "Social cohesion" (well fuck that for a start - what is required is the complete opposite until this cancer is driven out). More likely those who allowed them in covering their arses and not wanting any come backs. Utterly fucking shameful. Yet you think it's funny that Trump gets away with it? Quote
bolty58 Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 9 hours ago, DazBob said: Yet you think it's funny that Trump gets away with it? Had to look despite the aptness of your avatar. 'Funny'!? WTF. I suppose you undemocratic types don't accept the premise of 'innocent until proven guilty'? Stop deflecting. I suspect that you would have turned a blind eye to thousands of young UK lasses suffering too if you'd been in a position to have any influence. #i'llridewithyou far more important eh? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 Neither of the two fellas have been questioned, charged etc over their links to him and prospective child abuse. Neither will be, but one is automatically a peado. I doubt either are, though their letters/comments are cringe worthy, and concerning. Even if both were the subject of some level of police investigation, and subsequently cleared, folk will still disbelieve it. It's a shame in a way, as by all accounts Mandelson is a quality operator in this type of role, and was doing well in the states. He just has a self destruct button attached to him. Just need to appoint another good candidate now. Quote
DazBob Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 2 hours ago, bolty58 said: Had to look despite the aptness of your avatar. 'Funny'!? WTF. I suppose you undemocratic types don't accept the premise of 'innocent until proven guilty'? Stop deflecting. I suspect that you would have turned a blind eye to thousands of young UK lasses suffering too if you'd been in a position to have any influence. #i'llridewithyou far more important eh? 'Undemocratic types' I wouldn't ever turn a blind eye to anyone doing such a thing. Also, even if someone was suspected, but not proven guilty, I'd certainly not be making jokes about them being 'teflon'. Quote
bolty58 Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 3 minutes ago, DazBob said: 'Undemocratic types' I wouldn't ever turn a blind eye to anyone doing such a thing. Also, even if someone was suspected, but not proven guilty, I'd certainly not be making jokes about them being 'teflon'. Yes. Best ignored. Quote
DazBob Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 1 minute ago, bolty58 said: Yes. Best ignored. Yep. Take your ball home because you can't counter that. You big baby Quote
Casino Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's a shame in a way, as by all accounts Mandelson is a quality operator in this type of role, and was doing well in the states. i do think starmer has allowed himself to put to one side any epstein concerns in order to get somebody who could work with trump and as you say, he does seem to be able to handle tango man maybe cos of what he knows Quote
bolty58 Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 2 hours ago, Casino said: i do think starmer has allowed himself to put to one side any epstein concerns in order to get somebody who could work with trump and as you say, he does seem to be able to handle tango man maybe cos of what he knows Straws. Any straws. Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 15, 2025 Posted September 15, 2025 3 hours ago, Casino said: i do think starmer has allowed himself to put to one side any epstein concerns in order to get somebody who could work with trump and as you say, he does seem to be able to handle tango man maybe cos of what he knows Which was a big mistake if true. Given his stance on being "squeaky clean", he's bound to come under massive pressure for something like this. Only way to have avoided such scrutiny would have been to be up front from the beginning. Acknowledged the previous friendship, say its been investigated and nothing to see. He may have got away with it. The fact that he didn't just throws ammo straight at his opponents. Quote
crawshawbooth Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 The usual horrendous stories and same cover ups by police and social workers What 10 year old could ever be described as a PROSTITUTE by our civil service. Disgusting people , taking a wage off their local taxpayers ,whilst enabling our friends from overseas to ......... Quote
crawshawbooth Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 Are Pakistani racist comments allowed just a tiny bit about our rape cultured friends. OOps ! Quote
DazBob Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 5 hours ago, crawshawbooth said: Are Pakistani racist comments allowed just a tiny bit about our rape cultured friends. OOps ! I'd imagine if you're specifically talking about the Pakistani rape gangs nobody will have an issue. But if you're generalising all Pakistanis then that's a bit out of order. Quote
kent_white Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 7 hours ago, crawshawbooth said: Are Pakistani racist comments allowed just a tiny bit about our rape cultured friends. OOps ! Hang on. Are you asking if it's alright to be racist, providing you're only racist about criminals? Or have I just misread what you meant? Quote
bolty58 Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 48 minutes ago, kent_white said: Hang on. Are you asking if it's alright to be racist, providing you're only racist about criminals? Or have I just misread what you meant? Semantics. It is a cause which needs highlighting over and over again. Quote
DazBob Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 9 minutes ago, bolty58 said: Semantics. It is a cause which needs highlighting over and over again. It's not semantics. @crawshawboothasked if "Pakistani racist comments" were allowed. Nobody is disputing that Pakistani abusers/rapists should be locked up for a very long time. Same applies to anyone from anywhere. You, on the other hand, happily turn a blind eye to it if you happen to admire the perpetrator . Quote
royal white Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 11 hours ago, crawshawbooth said: Are Pakistani racist comments allowed just a tiny bit about our rape cultured friends. OOps ! According to some on here everyone is a little bit racist so you should be fine Quote
Sweep Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 33 minutes ago, royal white said: According to some on here everyone is a little bit racist so you should be fine Also according to one poster on here, if we just ignore racism, it'll go away. It's only a thing because people mention it. Apparently. Quote
bolty58 Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 4 hours ago, Sweep said: Also according to one poster on here, if we just ignore racism, it'll go away. It's only a thing because people mention it. Apparently. Does he say the same about numb fuckers? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 9 hours ago, kent_white said: Hang on. Are you asking if it's alright to be racist, providing you're only racist about criminals? Or have I just misread what you meant? I'm reading it as a dig at the "racist" accusations thrown at anyone who criticises the community. Something which has the potential to explode depending upon how the new "Islamiphobia" definition is drafted and monitored. Quote
kent_white Posted October 2, 2025 Posted October 2, 2025 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I'm reading it as a dig at the "racist" accusations thrown at anyone who criticises the community. Something which has the potential to explode depending upon how the new "Islamiphobia" definition is drafted and monitored. Could be. Sounded more to me like he was saying 'can I at least be racist about the bad ones' Which sounded bizarre. Which is why I was asking if I'd understood correctly..... Quote
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