Johnnyrotten Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 hours ago, paulhanley said: It is unreal. It's also very out of keeping with BWFC support trends. We'd always been capable of pulling in very big gates but there was a fickleness over a season. That tendency seems to have evaporated. Also, the overall support base seems to be gently growing all the time, regardless of the frustrations that crop up during a season. No precedent for any of this in my time supporting the club really, certainly not outside the top flight. You have to go back to the mid 70s for anything remotely close. It all bodes well for when we finally get out of League 1, whether that's this year or another. Not disputing the impressive levels of support generally - another superb turnout yesterday for a nothing match really - but not sure the levels have fluctuated any more in previous seasons have they? Some very poor turnouts midweek, its just we don't get to hear it officially, its all based on educated guesses on the night. And mid winter Saturdays were definitely less attended than some eg Bristol Rovers/Orient - but the only concrete figures we can compare with previous seasons are S/T sales, which with the benefit of reduced prices have clearly increased. More £10 community days another boost to average crowds. Overall its a great positive vibe currently and long may it continue, if/when we get back to the championship we will surely be looking at sellouts in some of the bigger games assuming we are competitive on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 8 hours ago, FrancisFogarty said: I agree with all that and I'm not being negative but there have been two 5s and a 7 in that. Add an 8 against United kids in the cup and it looks like we are attacking every two minutes. Truth is we're not. We're still (decent) shot shy and missing sitters. It's been a good season and not over yet, but converting more sitters and actually having a pot on goa land we'd have been home and hosed by now. I don't think anyone is counting games in that cup are they? Not sure why they would, literally men against boys. The point of the two 5s and a 7 is that it shows a relentless streak which I've been wanting for years, it was always our habit to go maybe 2 goals up then sit on it and it became boring (I'm going back years, pre-IE). Taking some teams to the cleaners per season (we had two 5-0's last season too) is refreshing and makes for great memories in a season of very few "memorable" results/games and zero late winners in home games to send the crowd into raptures, which has to be almost unique in my time as a fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, Traf said: I think we'll have fewer people in the ground next season if we go up. We'd definitely be candidates for a bottom-third finish and that doesn't motivate people to turn out. You're probably right, I may have got carried away with talk of sell outs, if its bottom third territory, its not happening, although the early season games if against big clubs may be 25k etc. The other factor is how many games may get switched for TV, which is going to alter the atmosphere and effect the habit of folk expecting to attend most games. A discussion for another day, hopefully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted April 21 Site Supporter Share Posted April 21 37 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: I don't think anyone is counting games in that cup are they? Not sure why they would, literally men against boys. The point of the two 5s and a 7 is that it shows a relentless streak which I've been wanting for years, it was always our habit to go maybe 2 goals up then sit on it and it became boring (I'm going back years, pre-IE). Taking some teams to the cleaners per season (we had two 5-0's last season too) is refreshing and makes for great memories in a season of very few "memorable" results/games and zero late winners in home games to send the crowd into raptures, which has to be almost unique in my time as a fan. No, I know you're not counting the kids game (even though 8 goals still want scoring), you mentioned the 21 in the middle. I'm saying that 17 of the extra 20 came in 3 games, so in the 18 other games we were bang ordinary, apart from Wigan and Carlisle where we weren't even ordinary, bang or otherwise. It's still been a great season and I'm far from being in the negative camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 24 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24 On 21/04/2024 at 18:48, Traf said: I think we'll have fewer people in the ground next season if we go up. We'd definitely be candidates for a bottom-third finish and that doesn't motivate people to turn out. Home or combined? I reckon average attendance will likely be higher, given number of sizeable away followings. Home totals will depend, as you say, on performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Home or combined? I reckon average attendance will likely be higher, given number of sizeable away followings. Home totals will depend, as you say, on performance. Home. We might sell 16,000 season tickets, but get embroiled in a relegation battle and there'll be less than 10k turning out in winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 14 minutes ago, Traf said: Home. We might sell 16,000 season tickets, but get embroiled in a relegation battle and there'll be less than 10k turning out in winter. Nah we are all optimists remember. We are finishing 2nd 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 24 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24 23 minutes ago, Traf said: Home. We might sell 16,000 season tickets, but get embroiled in a relegation battle and there'll be less than 10k turning out in winter. Attendances will still be reported as those sold though, as they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Attendances will still be reported as those sold though, as they are now. Not sure what your point is there. We were discussing bums on seats, not tickets sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted April 24 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24 You won't really know. Estimates are just that, and they vary wildly as observed from guesses on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Slow news day p2😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You won't really know. Estimates are just that, and they vary wildly as observed from guesses on here. we will we know a member of the turnstile team, they know exactly how many come through the gate before the official attendance is announced we knew there was only 10k on v Oxford just before they announced it as 19k as they told us on whatsapp, as they do most games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 24 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24 43 minutes ago, Zico said: we will we know a member of the turnstile team, they know exactly how many come through the gate before the official attendance is announced we knew there was only 10k on v Oxford just before they announced it as 19k as they told us on whatsapp, as they do most games Was there fuck only 10k against Oxford 😂 No wonder your mate has ended up working on turnstiles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13k v Shrewsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 18 minutes ago, Cheese said: Was there fuck only 10k against Oxford 😂 No wonder your mate has ended up working on turnstiles So how many was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 24 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Zico said: So how many was it? Probably a couple of thousand short of the official attendance, but it certainly wasn't half of it ffs. Edited April 24 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 29 minutes ago, Zico said: So how many was it? 10021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, Cheese said: Probably a couple of thousand short of the official attendance, but it certainly wasn't half of it ffs. Well this person is privvy to the numbers and no reason to make them up Not sure why you'd doubt it, unless you think they're making it up, but if you don't believe it, that's ok Midweek, on TV, very small away following, sparse home ends Certainly nearer 10k than 17k Often the case midweek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted April 24 Site Supporter Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Zico said: Well this person is privvy to the numbers and no reason to make them up Not sure why you'd doubt it, unless you think they're making it up Midweek, on TV, very small away following, sparse home ends Certainly nearer 10k than 17k Often the case midweek I don't give a fuck to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Cheese said: I don't give a fuck to be honest. Wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Cheese said: I don't give a fuck to be honest. As you were then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 Pic from my seat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 Another I took to send a mate as I thought the bloke there looked like Roy Hodgson As you can see there's no fucker there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Zico said: Well this person is privvy to the numbers and no reason to make them up Not sure why you'd doubt it, unless you think they're making it up, but if you don't believe it, that's ok Midweek, on TV, very small away following, sparse home ends Certainly nearer 10k than 17k Often the case midweek Definitely. It was very sparse, definitely lowest this season. In comparison when cup games are played and we all buy tickets, the official attendance is a true reflection. 10k v Luton but ESL and WSL were much fuller than for evening league games (not many in NSL and top tiers shut obviously). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted April 24 Moderators Share Posted April 24 And one more as was going on about Coleman being off his line No where near 19k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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