What do we think?

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

Fair enough, my mistake.  What I meant to express was that there's a cross section of opinions across the 40,000+ fan base, I don't see how it would follow that those that bought a S/T would be largely pro-IE, and those that didn't mainly anti-IE.  It will be a mix of both I expect.

My point was, the majority of the pro IE gang will be ST holders.

On 19/05/2024 at 13:03, gonzo said:

Bet he doesn't turn another job down...

Burnley's available now !

21 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said:

My point was, the majority of the pro IE gang will be ST holders.

Again I’m not sure that’s right.

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Again I’m not sure that’s right.

Thats cos you’re ‘not right’ 😂

13 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

My point was, the majority of the pro IE gang will be ST holders.

I doubt that. People who go regularly to the games are probably more likely to have seen his limitations and realise there are other managers outsmarting him despite having bigger resources than them. 

Away match fans are probably even more exposed to this, and I've regularly heard it getting on the verge of properly turning against Evatt at the away capitulations this season.

So if anything, it could be your more casual fan who is looking at the small progress each of the last 3 seasons and thinks let's keep Evatt.

15 hours ago, tomski said:

Again I’m not sure that’s right.

 

2 hours ago, Stig said:

I doubt that. People who go regularly to the games are probably more likely to have seen his limitations and realise there are other managers outsmarting him despite having bigger resources than them. 

Away match fans are probably even more exposed to this, and I've regularly heard it getting on the verge of properly turning against Evatt at the away capitulations this season.

So if anything, it could be your more casual fan who is looking at the small progress each of the last 3 seasons and thinks let's keep Evatt.

I'd say the poll on here is nearly 50/50 stay/go

Idl also say that most on here commenting are Season ticket holders.

Therefore negating both sides of the argument 

I'd also say back number 3 in the 15.50 at Fontwell, but what do I know...

1 hour ago, Ratwhite said:

 

I'd say the poll on here is nearly 50/50 stay/go

Idl also say that most on here commenting are Season ticket holders.

Therefore negating both sides of the argument 

I'd also say back number 3 in the 15.50 at Fontwell, but what do I know...

Well, as a former course and distance winner sired by Sixties Icon, he has every chance provided he’s race fit after a six-month break.

You could also say some voting to keep him in the poll are Wigan fans worried about loosing 6 points if we sack him 😁

Edited May 26, 20242 yr by Farnywhite

If I look back on the season we’ve failed in those big games because we didn’t have a plan B, Oxford and Southampton both set up to nullify the  oppositions better players in the play offs, hit on the break and after scoring defend deep and with commitment, it’s a style that the Italians use in big games and one we need to be able to do when the occasion arises, Wigan away, blackpool away, Pompey and derby away and Oxford at Wembley we’re the perfect games to employ those tactics. 

11 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If I look back on the season we’ve failed in those big games because we didn’t have a plan B, Oxford and Southampton both set up to nullify the  oppositions better players in the play offs, hit on the break and after scoring defend deep and with commitment, it’s a style that the Italians use in big games and one we need to be able to do when the occasion arises, Wigan away, blackpool away, Pompey and derby away and Oxford at Wembley we’re the perfect games to employ those tactics. 

We stick to our usual game-plan and don't play to the occasion in my view... hence us coming second best in local derbies

People keep mentioning a "plan B"

 

Isn't that what we did v Barnsley in play off Semis and ultimately v Oxford in final?

Long diagonal balls as we couldn't play through the middle?

Unfortunately our "Plan B" doesn't suit Collins or Charles. It involves a decent hold-up forward. (We've just let our best two hold up forwards go)

So maybe we need a "Plan C" 

42 minutes ago, Ratwhite said:

People keep mentioning a "plan B"

 

Isn't that what we did v Barnsley in play off Semis and ultimately v Oxford in final?

Long diagonal balls as we couldn't play through the middle?

Unfortunately our "Plan B" doesn't suit Collins or Charles. It involves a decent hold-up forward. (We've just let our best two hold up forwards go)

So maybe we need a "Plan C" 

If Our plan B is to play long diagonals we need a CF who can win the first contact and someone to pick up the second ball, playing vic and CJ up top doesn’t work as both want to win the first contact and there’s no one picking up second ball, Vic up top with Dempsey and Charles off him looking to pick up the second ball, it’ll need working on but rather than just play Evatt ball we need that plan B, also a plan C, Italian style counter attacking game plan, until we can win using different styles then we ain’t going into the championship. It’s probably a blessing we haven’t got promoted as been shown a number of times we’re undercooked and not ready. 

 

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

 

He's right of course, but that is a brutal quote for someone within the squad to come out with.

4 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

He's right of course, but that is a brutal quote for someone within the squad to come out with.

Feels like he’s having a dig. He’s correct as well.

The players might change, but the mentality stays the same hmmm

27 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

He's right of course, but that is a brutal quote for someone within the squad to come out with.

It's a start though at least and a small step in the direction we need to be going in

Theres quite a few things jones says that iles pushes in a direction to make aa point, but i found this interesting

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Not including the play-offs, Bolton won just two of 10 games against the top six, averaging 1.2 points per outing, bettered by both Derby County (1.4) and Portsmouth (2.20).

Ipompey are well ahaed but derby are hardly better at it than us...2 points over the season

It really does point more to that crackpot game v carlisle

Charlton and shrewsbury were games we shouldve won too

17 minutes ago, Casino said:

Theres quite a few things jones says that iles pushes in a direction to make aa point, but i found this interesting

Ipompey are well ahaed but derby are hardly better at it than us...2 points over the season

It really does point more to that crackpot game v carlisle

Charlton and shrewsbury were games we shouldve won too

I've prattled on about this all season. 

If you beat the teams you really ought to beat, it takes the pressure off the games against the top teams a little bit. Show no mercy against anyone in the bottom half

I think it's a mistake to think of the "big games" solely as the matches against the top six

15 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think it's a mistake to think of the "big games" solely as the matches against the top six

Every game is a tough game when you are trying to get promotion .

35 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I think it's a mistake to think of the "big games" solely as the matches against the top six

They're the games you want to avoid defeat in

It's the others that you should be winning 

Exeter away etc 

But in theory we win at derby and we go up

We didn't fare to well against the top 6 last season either, though those numbers looked better when posh get in ahead of Derby on the last day

46 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

I've prattled on about this all season. 

If you beat the teams you really ought to beat, it takes the pressure off the games against the top teams a little bit. Show no mercy against anyone in the bottom half

Correct it wasn’t just a few games

shrewsbury, Exeter, burton, Charlton, reading I can go on silly points dropped

in fact the more you look at it we should’ve been home & dry with plenty to spare 

Edited May 27, 20242 yr by radcliffe white

2 minutes ago, Zico said:

They're the games you want to avoid defeat in

It's the others that you should be winning 

Exeter away etc 

But in theory we win at derby and we go up

We didn't fare to well against the top 6 last season either, though those numbers looked better when posh get in ahead of Derby on the last day

Aye

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

They're the games you want to avoid defeat in

It's the others that you should be winning 

Exeter away etc 

But in theory we win at derby and we go up

We didn't fare to well against the top 6 last season either, though those numbers looked better when posh get in ahead of Derby on the last day

Top 6 next season isnt getting any easier with Brum, Huddersfield and Rovram coming down. Barnsley, Peterborough still about and big bucks Wrexham in the mix.

Fucking wish id not typed that now, looks terrifying