...and so it begins.

The lunatics are out in force already.

Sean Dyche or John McGinlay my favourites so far

 

 

3 minutes ago, thebells said:

If it is him, I’m excited for how many variations of his name we get to see spelt. 

He’ll fit right in with Johnstone, Thomasson, Southwold and the rest. Shame Evert has gone really. 

There'll be people replying to the social media announcements of his appointment calling him Stephen, I'm sure of it

12 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Super white 👌 

You’re absolutely right, I’m blaming my hangover 

25 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

 

If Schumacher was our no 1 choice all along

 

I don’t think he was.

It seems pretty genuine to me, that we’ve actively pursued recruitment once Evatt has gone.

He’s seemingly been considered this week to be the best out there for BWFC.

Hence there being an interim management in place, hence there being some variable movements in the markets, hence there being a delay of one or two games before this is sorted etc etc 

Should we not be going for Lowe over Schumacher?

23 minutes ago, desperado said:

I don’t think he was.

It seems pretty genuine to me, that we’ve actively pursued recruitment once Evatt has gone.

He’s seemingly been considered this week to be the best out there for BWFC.

Hence there being an interim management in place, hence there being some variable movements in the markets, hence there being a delay of one or two games before this is sorted etc etc 

I think you’re right. Sharon places a lot of emphasis on values and doing things the right way.

Whilst future planning is important, I don’t sense she’d have been sneaking around in the background sounding out new managers.   

This equates with the info I was give on Friday. She had to be heavily nudged to remove Evatt by trusted people in the club, and still didn’t want to part ways.  

It seems Markham and his team have led much of the recruitment anyway.

 

2 minutes ago, Horwich said:

Should we not be going for Lowe over Schumacher?

If you want to stick with tippy-tappy bollox & even slower build-ups than  Evattball yeah.

I’m not massively excited by any of the names linked with us, I don’t think any of them are better managers than Evatt. 
 

Huge shame it went a bit stale here as I still think he will turn out to be a top manager higher up. 

Hi Ian

20 minutes ago, VividDreamer said:

I’m not massively excited by any of the names linked with us, I don’t think any of them are better managers than Evatt. 
 

Huge shame it went a bit stale here as I still think he will turn out to be a top manager higher up. 

He won't. 

He has no capacity to learn.

16 minutes ago, VividDreamer said:

I’m not massively excited by any of the names linked with us, I don’t think any of them are better managers than Evatt. 
 

Huge shame it went a bit stale here as I still think he will turn out to be a top manager higher up. 

But therein lies the problem and ultimately why he’s now on the dole. 
 

a manager could be a genius with the ideas in his mind and up on the tactics board and his “philosophy” could easily be delivered with players higher up the chain who can execute better, with more consistency which reaps better rewards. 
 

but also a “top” manager also recognises, regardless of his ideology, what he has at his disposal, whether they’re capable of delivering what he wants and if they’re not adopt a different way that gets the best out of his squad. 
 

I hope he does do well in the future but he definitely needs to learn from this experience. Whether his ego allows him to acknowledge where he went wrong, who knows… 

5 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

But therein lies the problem and ultimately why he’s now on the dole. 
 

a manager could be a genius with the ideas in his mind and up on the tactics board and his “philosophy” could easily be delivered with players higher up the chain who can execute better, with more consistency which reaps better rewards. 
 

but also a “top” manager also recognises, regardless of his ideology, what he has at his disposal, whether they’re capable of delivering what he wants and if they’re not adopt a different way that gets the best out of his squad. 
 

I hope he does do well in the future but he definitely needs to learn from this experience. Whether his ego allows him to acknowledge where he went wrong, who knows… 

I think you called right about his gamblers/addictive personality traits showing through in management.

33 minutes ago, VividDreamer said:

I’m not massively excited by any of the names linked with us, I don’t think any of them are better managers than Evatt. 
 

Huge shame it went a bit stale here as I still think he will turn out to be a top manager higher up. 

None of the names so far are enthusing me... the two being talked about are too young and inexperienced in my book (just like IE), you need a "big man" to manage our club and neither of these two have really earned their spurs in management yet, probably good coaches with heads full of tactical bollocks but not yet a "manager".. that comes with maturity.

From the list someone posted yesterday Wagner was the one who caught my eye at 20/1. Dyche could do the job as well

You going to stump up the 5m/year for Dyche then?

Fuckin Dyche

Id prefer Ancelotti

55 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

But therein lies the problem and ultimately why he’s now on the dole. 
 

a manager could be a genius with the ideas in his mind and up on the tactics board and his “philosophy” could easily be delivered with players higher up the chain who can execute better, with more consistency which reaps better rewards. 
 

but also a “top” manager also recognises, regardless of his ideology, what he has at his disposal, whether they’re capable of delivering what he wants and if they’re not adopt a different way that gets the best out of his squad. 
 

I hope he does do well in the future but he definitely needs to learn from this experience. Whether his ego allows him to acknowledge where he went wrong, who knows… 

Fair points. I do believe he can go on to be a top manager. It’ll depend on how well he’s able to reflect on what happened at Bolton. 

He’s got the work ethic and, for 3.5 years, did amazing work for us. We shouldn’t forget that. Eddie Howe was a disaster at Burnley but has gone on to good things 

Evatt’s stock is probably higher than most of us think. If Derby pot Warne in, say, March, I can see Evatt being high on their list.

Time will tell. I honestly hope it works out for him. Never seen a manager so desperate to succeed 

1 hour ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

If you want to stick with tippy-tappy bollox & even slower build-ups than  Evattball yeah.

Schumaker’s team did play across the back to keep possession but also played into the channels for runners.

Ultimately it worked in L1 to tune of 101points.

43 minutes ago, Dimron said:

None of the names so far are enthusing me... the two being talked about are too young and inexperienced in my book (just like IE), you need a "big man" to manage our club and neither of these two have really earned their spurs in management yet, probably good coaches with heads full of tactical bollocks but not yet a "manager".. that comes with maturity.

From the list someone posted yesterday Wagner was the one who caught my eye at 20/1. Dyche could do the job as well

The only one that excites me is O’Neil, don’t know why. Maybe because he was here as a player who was popular with the fans or that he has been the coach of two premier league teams . I’d be happy with ss or whoever the board choose, in Sharon we trust.

2 minutes ago, green genie said:

Schumaker’s team did play across the back to keep possession but also played into the channels for runners.

Ultimately it worked in L1 to tune of 101points.

Get that.

But Evatt, & Lowe's the same according to Preston fans, inverted on it & it back intolerably slow. The whole thing needs variety & the ability to suddenly switch temporarily. We had none of that as he simply doubled down on the tippy-tappy. He routinely let the opposition get 11 back and set. 

1 hour ago, Horwich said:

Should we not be going for Lowe over Schumacher?

Nob end mates reckon he was terrible for them. 

Evatts downfall was his mental health/personal issues. Was slowly taking its toll on him until it became apparent that he could no longer focus on his job. 
 

If he sorts his problems out he continues to succeed as a manager. We just didn’t have the time to wait for that to happen 

17 minutes ago, green genie said:

Schumaker’s team did play across the back to keep possession but also played into the channels for runners.

Ultimately it worked in L1 to tune of 101points.

Is he adaptable mate?

 

‘Schumakers Superwhite Army’ does have a bit of a ring to it.

Heavy emphasis on the ‘SCHU’ like we used to with ‘BRUCE Riochs super white army’

I’m in. 😀

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22 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is he adaptable mate?

 

Flexible and adaptable

23 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Is he adaptable mate?

 

Sky sports had a snippet of a day in the life of Thomas Frank earlier which was celebrating him in 30 years of coaching or summat, anyway,  he was asked about what makes a good coach / manager he said about being adaptable, being true to your philosophy but still having the ability to change it without giving up what you believe in. Was a really good listen. 
 

most of the time I wouldn’t really of listened but struck a chord with our former man, which makes it even more frustrating he couldn’t adapt. 
 

anyway no idea about Schumacher being adaptable but there we go. 

Evatt's problems were that he was a sub standard manager relying on superior tactics from better managers in leagues higher, which he failed to adapt properly.

He lacked tactical adaptability, flexibility and seemed to lack the ability to make tactical decisions on the fly. Fixing things that aren't working mid game is a crucial part of football/any management. I put this down to either ego or an inability to read the game dynamically.

A real manager would have had us smashing poor teams in 23rd with 532 tippy tappy (like we did last year for the most part), and also had us getting points reliably against top 6 teams, by changing his tactics, playing it safer in defence etc, it could have been done as you saw yesterday.

There was never a mentality issue, hangover from Oxford, or scoreboard anxiety, it was all just nonsense.