frank_spencer Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 its 25575 at the moment!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 25,09725,017 26,795 26,006 (1) and this is 26795 from the official club handbook XXXXX (2) And this years will go down due to charging ??39 to away fans, so that'll be 3 years on the decline & we're a club who are having their best season in 50 odd years. PB I make that 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 7, 2006 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2006 basically I get the impression that the problem is as follows in the 80s Bolton were w??nk, but at least you chose to go watching them at will, as the prices and ground were more accessible (forget the atmosphere, everyone has differing opinions on that, to say it's worse at the Reebok whilst Burnden had a samba feel about it is b??llocks) 20 years on, and those who suffered the 80s are feeling alienated to some degree from the success of the club by the fact the ground has moved and the prices have risen rapidly - two things which though not completely out of powers of the clubs have been determined by football as a whole, and not just by our chairman and board we had to move from Burnden, we have to raise prices, without either we wouldn't be where we are now so if you don't want to go anymore, don't, but don't blame the club, they're doing what they have to do to survive, and it's a fine line, I'd rather be where we are now then be a Rotherham fan about to see their club go out of business but also take note - this is going on throughout the Premier League, does think Chelsea fans really feel happy paying ??50 to watch their team? or West Brom fans ??40 to watch theirs? what I'd be more interested to know is if their fans too feel like they've being shafted by their club, I suspect they will, and that makes their problem no different than ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest as Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Zico You forgot to add we moved from the centre(ish) of town to a smaller town in the borough of Bolton...........and it wasn't even built in the centre of that. Awful location for a football stadium, truly awful. PB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted March 7, 2006 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2006 I did actually make 2 references to the ground moving personally, it makes no odds to me as I have to travel 20+ miles to the game anyway but I know what a pain in the arse it is given I used to have to get to Burnden from Horwich, and many now have to go into town, and out again, if using public transport but it didn't stop people coming two years ago when we were struggling, but it was about ??5/??6 cheaper with my limited knowledge of Bolton geography, I can't think of another location that could fit Middlebrook on it and which would be in a location considered not "out of town" also, Horwich is no less a part of Bolton than any where else it's just bigger and betterer enough than all the others to be considered a town of it's own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Also getting away from Burnden in a car was no joke. The Reebok for me is easier to get to then Burnden was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 7, 2006 Moderators Share Posted March 7, 2006 in only 6 seasons since the war, has every league game had a crowd of 20k or more 5 of them were at the reebok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 in only 6 seasons since the war, has every league game had a crowd of 20k or more 5 of them were at the reebok Which ragging war are you looking Here are some averages I've just taken any years where we averaged over 25000 1946/47 28700 1947/48 29408 1948/49 34113 1949/50 29788 1950/51 33152 1951/52 35832 1952/53 32066 1953/54 33739 1954/55 28418 1955/56 27964 1956/57 25219 1958/59 27659 1959/60 26978 1962/63 25180 2001/02 25098 2002/03 25017 2003/04 26795 2004/05 26795 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayjayoghani Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 every league game had a crowd of 20k or more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 sorry missed the HAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwen Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 no news from gartside although he did acknowledge my email and said he would like to meet (still not sure it is genuine) casino is looking at arranging something with a bloke he knows at the club i will let you know about and developments. Jaw jaw not snore snore for the making of a better atmosphere. BWFC Ultras in the making Good idea. Been looking at Some UK Ultra websites and there mainly in scotland. Accrington Stanley seem to have a good group though http://ultrasuk.jconserv.net/index.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Also getting away from Burnden in a car was no joke. The Reebok for me is easier to get to then Burnden was. the Reebok is easier for us to get to than burnden especially with me gramps with us! the problem with access to the Reebok lies not with BWFC but with Emerson the people who own the middlebrook development they have refused to put in another exit road or 2 from the area! the places to do so are available but it just wont happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 But you've also got a problem before the game with traffic on the motorway , when you've got 3/4 to 1 mile of standing traffic trying to get off then there is something wrong, and they is some copper sat on the bridge watching whats going on and doing nothing just letting the lights change, someone will get killed at that junction on a match day soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled Girl Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 with my limited knowledge of Bolton geography, I can't think of another location that could fit Middlebrook on it and which would be in a location considered not "out of town" Knock down most of Cannon St & that shitty estate that was built round there during the 60s (early 70s?). Job done. (or have they already done that? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YATESY Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 with my limited knowledge of Bolton geography, I can't think of another location that could fit Middlebrook on it and which would be in a location considered not "out of town" This is the story of how and why BWFC selected Middlebrook. I inherited some BWFC shares from my Uncle some 20 years ago and thus, I was able to attend a number of the shareholders meetings in the pre-PLC days when the number of shareholders could fit in the exec room at Burnden. A number of meetings were held to update shareholders on the move away from Burnden. It boiled down to funding. The club could get their hands on ??millions of extra UK and EU development funding for a new site but virtually nothing for improving Burnden. With the lack of room at Burden (due to St Peters Way and Manchester Road) this lead to a very easy decision to move away from Burnden. I can recall seeing plans and feasibility studies into 17 different sites around the Bolton area. Virtually every corner of Bolton was searched for suitable sites, green field, brown field, compulsory purchase orders were all on the table. At the end of the day, Bolton Council offered BWFC the land next to a landfill site in Horwich for virtually nothing. The site was totally unoccupied (therefore, nice amounts of grants and funding was availiable) and the site was massive with unlimited amounts of room to develop. Seeing the plans and potential at a shareholders meeting at Burnden, it was a "no brainer" decision. If we had to move away from Burnden to grow to become the club we are today, the Middlebrook option was a 100 times better than the other 16. This is why we the The Reebok was built in Horwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I think the bottom line is this. We all hate the Reebok, due to location, design, cost, lack of atmosphere, pooor road infrastructure etc etc. However, without the move we wouldn't have attracted the players like N'Gotty, Djorkaeff and Bobic, then Okocha and Campo, then Stelios, Hierro, Speed and Diouf etc. Then there wouldn't have been 2 top 8 finishes in a row with the possibility of a 3rd, nor would be there be a first ever European campaign with the distinct possibility of a 2nd one etc etc. We don't like the Reebok, but we're stuck with it. There's not a great deal we can do about it now, so let's move on and channel our energies towards the team in a positive manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted March 8, 2006 Site Supporter Share Posted March 8, 2006 so let's move on and channel our energies towards the team in a positive manner. . Good Shout! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YATESY Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 We don't like the Reebok, but we're stuck with it Sod that. Lets sell The Reebok, kick Asda off Burnden and rebuild a 15,000 capacity stadium squashed between St Peters Way and Manchester Road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest as Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 At least then you could get a decent pint before the game PB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 At least then you could get a decent pint before the game PB have most of the pubs closed down around burnden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YATESY Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 At least then you could get a decent pint before the game PB have most of the pubs closed down around burnden? Decent cup of tea in the Asda cafe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 just as a matter of interest does any one know the admission price for the last season at burnden and each of the subsequent years at the reebok for a season ticket holder per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 Don't quote me, but ??18 rings a bell for that last game v Charlton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest as Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I remember my season ticket for the 94/95 season. ??80 for the season - and what a season that was. PB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 I remember my season ticket for the 94/95 season. ??80 for the season - and what a season that was. PB was that for a kids ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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