Pablo Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Are Tesco taking over the current site, then? Otherwise, wheres the value in that dog shit alley? The sh??te buying it for their car park!
Burndens Bogs Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) If we were flying high in the top flight - it'd sell out every week. And you wouldn't have hundreds & hundreds of blokes in town watching it in the pub instead, as you could walk there, as opposed to getting a train & having some f??cking jobsworth in your ear for 90 mins. I suppose the Reebok is great if you're with your kids, or a boring old c??nt - I'm neither, so I'd sooner be stood on a cold terrace with a load of not-rights. Hmmmm, now admittedly we weren't exactly "flying high" in the top flight, but have a look at some of these attendances at Burnden for 78/79 - Our first season in the top flight for FIFTEEN YEARS. Regular crowds of 19-21,000,we only really got decent gates against Man U,Citeh,Liverpool,Everton. Some things never change, and they never will, due to us being a TOWN team with a small fan base. http://www.geocities.com/nigelsheppard/bwfc/1970/page10.html Edited December 11, 2006 by Burndens Bogs
mickbrown Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Exactly - we've always been fickle feckers.
Ani Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 i do not hate the reebok. i love the memories of burnden but if we were still playing there there would be a much more to complain about. you end up going back to the same old theme, which is how the club can improve the match day experience to improve the atmosphere and in tunr get more people thorugh the turnstiles. it just seems they have tried putting a bloke in lion suit, chearleaders, two blokes with falgs and the fireworks, none of which would make me turn up. the product on the pitch is millllllllllles better than ever before in terms of results and quality of players. but i bet none of the marketing team at the reebok have been and sat in the areas of the ground we are talking about and experienced the actual product they are asking people to pay ??39 per week for. The acountants at the club will argue 80% full at these rpices is better business that 100% at 25% off, but somewhere along the line someone needs to remember why people started going to the game and try and recreate that rather than ragging about with gimmicks.
Guest as Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 you don't know that this run of 100+ games of 20k+ crowds is the only time we've ever done it, despite the high pricing and seeing as you were about 6 when the reebok opened, wtf do you know about it I was 18 when we moved to the Reebok, don't let my youthful good looks fool you I suspect the boring old c??nt comment bothered you - it was amied at you & people like you, after all As of next season the sub 20k attendances will start kicking in, and you and your fellow 'lets keep out the riff-raff out' brigade will be able to eat your sandwiches & suck yer Werthers in peace then.
Casino Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) 18 eh? so you were no older than 10 or 12 when we were shit the prosecution rests i'd put prices up tbh, cos if you're getting in, it's clear the riff raff haven't been removed......just yet :p ps i love these threads, it's a sure sign things on the pitch are seen as being acceptable Edited December 11, 2006 by Casino
kobeer Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 If Burnden had been rebuilt in the same place, we would have a 20,000 capacity ground. The same restrictions (stewarding) about standing up / gesturing to away fans etc would be in place, prices would be exactly as high as they are now and the changed profile of fans (more Women and more families - not a Mike Newall type comment but a factor in the "different" atmosphere these days). Whilst understanding that many fans who enjoyed the raucous atmosphere at Burnden will be less enamoured with the modern music & fireworks of the Reebok - these changes would have happened anyway at an all-seater Burnden. We HAD to have an all-seater stadium. and it was NOT possible/practical to rebuild at Burnden*. Middlebrook was the BEST option as the construction of the retail park meant the stadium could be subsidised by the developers. I don't think the council would have let us build on the town hall square. Compared to many of the identikit new grounds (Derby, Southampton, 'Boro, Stoke, Reading - all virtually the same bar the colour of the seats) - ours looks better and has better facilities than most ( I know they need to employ more able staff oin the kiosks). The hotel, offices, exhibition hall, boxes don't impact on the stadium but bring in needed revenue (The only people taking huging sums out of this revenue are the players) I can't believe people are still moaning that it is not in the centre of Bolton. With buses from all parts of the Borough and a train station adjacent its not difficult to get to. It IS in BOLTON Borough. For me its all about 11 white shirts. I don't mind the fireworks or music and flags when we score. Yes, I wish we could have standing sections and I wish there was more singing - but I'm not going to stop going. Having watched my team lose 4-0 at Scarborough in Division 4, I'm not going to desert them now we have become a top 8 Premiership team. If the fans in the South East corner relocate themselves to the North stand I believe they'd get away with standing a bit more (en masse) and they are less likely to be hauled out for sticking 2 fingers up at the away fans (if that sails your boat!. The officials clearly get overly concerned that it may kick off if there is too much going on near the away fans. The whole North stand (lower at least) standing and singing would be pretty impressive. With regard to prices - hopefully (I know I'm being naive) the club will use some of next season's hike in Sky money to reduce prices drastically and we can get back to 27,000 every game, as we had 3 seasons ago. Keep the faith -C'mon you whites * Many people are unaware of all the facts re Normid. The club was on the verge of bankruptcy and the Normid deal was essential. The original idea was to build on what became the away car park - i.e LEAVE THE EMBANKMENT UNTOUCHED but it transpired that if a commercial building was put on the reclaimed railway land, some huge grants would have to be repaid and BWFC would have been no better off.
Sweep Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 With regard to prices - hopefully (I know I'm being naive) the club will use some of next season's hike in Sky money to reduce prices drastically A nice thought, but I can't see that ever happening
dannyc2 Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 i love it and love my team we aint moving so get on with it
YATESY Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 i love it Sad, very sad. I love my children, I love my wife (sometimes!) but to love The Reebok Stadium is something very very sad. Get a life dannyc2. By the way: Increase in money from Sky = increase in players wages.
Whites man Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 * Many people are unaware of all the facts re Normid. The club was on the verge of bankruptcy and the Normid deal was essential. The original idea was to build on what became the away car park - i.e LEAVE THE EMBANKMENT UNTOUCHED but it transpired that if a commercial building was put on the reclaimed railway land, some huge grants would have to be repaid and BWFC would have been no better off. Top post that. I never knew that about the Normid, I have always assumed it was a stitch up by the board.
Guest as Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 The sad thing is, I hate the Reebok but can't stop going back for more I'm probably like thousands more who've called to boycott the place, but haven't got round to actually doing it yet. And I'm fully aware we've got a cracking team together now, just p??ssed off with everything else about BWFC.
dannyc2 Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Sad, very sad.I love my children, I love my wife (sometimes!) but to love The Reebok Stadium is something very very sad. Get a life dannyc2. By the way: Increase in money from Sky = increase in players wages. i have got one thanks watching Bolton at the breezeblock stick to the pub if you dont like it
Guest The Special One Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Its the location that I hate. It is not in Bolton, it is not within walking distance from the town centre, there are no decent boozers en route, public transport to and from the place are pathetic, I remember the one bank holiday game, Trinity Street was heaving waiting for a train then one appeared and it had 2 carraiges and majority couldn't get on due to day trippers going to Blackpool and how many times do you have to stand at Horwich Parkway afterwards wondering if there is a train to Bolton. Then you get the night games and the last train is at quarter to, but the game doesn't finish til ten to. You can't get served in the 2 pubs near the ground due to the high volume of people packed into them, then you can't get served in the ground due to incompetent immigrants who can't understand you and when you eventually get a pint it is disgusting cat pee. Then you go to your seat and stand up then get told off by the stewards or some fucktard behind you complaining about you showing some passion. Aah f??ck it, shove the shithole where the sun don't shine Away games only for me
Sweep Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 Its the location that I hate. It is not in Bolton, it is not within walking distance from the town centre, there are no decent boozers en route, public transport to and from the place are pathetic, I remember the one bank holiday game, Trinity Street was heaving waiting for a train then one appeared and it had 2 carraiges and majority couldn't get on due to day trippers going to Blackpool and how many times do you have to stand at Horwich Parkway afterwards wondering if there is a train to Bolton. Then you get the night games and the last train is at quarter to, but the game doesn't finish til ten to. You can't get served in the 2 pubs near the ground due to the high volume of people packed into them, then you can't get served in the ground due to incompetent immigrants who can't understand you and when you eventually get a pint it is disgusting cat pee. Then you go to your seat and stand up then get told off by the stewards or some fucktard behind you complaining about you showing some passion. Aah f??ck it, shove the shithole where the sun don't shine Away games only for me I find myself agreeing with TSO 100% here, the transport to and from the ground are a real joke, especially for an evening kick off
HomerJay Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 i love the fact that the filter lane to stop queuing traffic on southbound exit is only ever closed on matchdays... genious!
jayjayoghani Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 You ever considered getting the bus? Certainly for Saturday games, they're every 10 mins. Bus stops outside the Bradshawgate boozers - get off at the Beehive.
Guest as Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 You ever considered getting the bus? Certainly for Saturday games, they're every 10 mins. Bus stops outside the Bradshawgate boozers - get off at the Beehive. I've got a the bus a few times, a nice half hour stuck in traffic & I soon stopped bothering. The train isn't too bad, but they're nearly always late/delayed/packed out by the time they do arrive. And if it's a hassle getting up there, can you blame the pub loads of Bolton fans sitting happily in the boozer with a pint in one hand/fag in the other while watching the footy for free?
mickbrown Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I've got a the bus a few times, a nice half hour stuck in traffic & I soon stopped bothering. The train isn't too bad, but they're nearly always late/delayed/packed out by the time they do arrive. And if it's a hassle getting up there, can you blame the pub loads of Bolton fans sitting happily in the boozer with a pint in one hand/fag in the other while watching the footy for free? Piece of piss for me to get to. I live in Manchester and I get there quicker than my dad who lives in Smithills.
Guest Biff Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I don't understand why people want to gesticulate at and shout at the away supporters. Having paid thirty odd pound, I want to watch the match. Then you get the buffoons who stand with their backs to the match facing their own supporters and shouting at them to join in with the moronic chanting.
Guest The Special One Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 I don't understand why people want to gesticulate at and shout at the away supporters. Having paid thirty odd pound, I want to watch the match. Then you get the buffoons who stand with their backs to the match facing their own supporters and shouting at them to join in with the moronic chanting. Biffo is that you or has someone hacked your account??
cbwfcd Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) I don't understand why people want to gesticulate at and shout at the away supporters. Having paid thirty odd pound, I want to watch the match. Then you get the buffoons who stand with their backs to the match facing their own supporters and shouting at them to join in with the moronic chanting. Whats moronic chanting? Cheering on the team, taking the mick out of away fans. I too don't agree with the buffoons who stand with their backs to the match, getting people to join in. They shouldn't need to do it, those they are trying to get to join in should be doing it off their own backs. Edited December 11, 2006 by cbwfcd
Mounts Kipper Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 seriously considered walking out after 30 minutes against west ham, the people around me are very nice, swapping wine gums and biscuits, but i dont want that, i want people who swear/sing and take the piss, but i cannot stop going, it is my team, i have supported the club through some very lean times and if i stopped attending it is less money in the clubs coffers, if we all give up, will there be anything worth supporting?
Casino Posted December 11, 2006 Posted December 11, 2006 i was in the pineapple half an hour after the game finished now then, given the choice, match every time for me each to their own, and they all seemed happy with their choice, but its not for me in fact, i reckonthe folk choosing this option are no better than the stay away mancs so despised by bolton fans
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