Spider Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 25th anniversary of being held to ransom for a few months by Arthur Scargill. To think that some people look back on this period with a sort of warm glow (Pun intended). Being at the mercy of some pig-thick communists doesn't sound like my idea of a fondly remembered period. I bet none of them queued up for their nasty capitalist claims for asbestos poisonings a few years back though - sticking to their socialist principles... If anyone needs me, I'm turning on my uninterrupted power supply of electricity. Thatcher, tsk.
tyldesley_white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 25th anniversary of being held to ransom for a few months by Arthur Scargill. To think that some people look back on this period with a sort of warm glow (Pun intended). Being at the mercy of some pig-thick communists doesn't sound like my idea of a fondly remembered period. I bet none of them queued up for their nasty capitalist claims for asbestos poisonings a few years back though - sticking to their socialist principles... If anyone needs me, I'm turning on my uninterrupted power supply of electricity. Thatcher, tsk. If we had built more coal fired power stations instead of gas we now would not be held to ramsom by Putin, still communist but with a different face
Smiffs Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 If we had built more coal fired power stations instead of gas we now would not be held to ramsom by Putin, still communist but with a different face And run them with what?
frank_spencer Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 And run them with what? Hopes and dreams smiffers, hopes and dreams
tyldesley_white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 And run them with what? Coal would be a good start, but the mines are now shut (and we've got shit loads still untouched), something had to be done about the miners but the end result means we will be held to ransom by over sea powers as long as we have to import gas to run gas fired stations, we could build some new nuclear ones, but you know what happens when that word gets mentioned, and even if we do build them we will have to pay through the nose for electricity for the next decade at least until they come on line
mickbrown Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Come on Mick, the stage is yours. :::: Frankly, I can't be arsed. I like a cyber ruck as much as the next man but its a waste of energy to have one with someone who equates trade unions with communists.
mickbrown Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 25th anniversary of being held to ransom for a few months by Arthur Scargill. To think that some people look back on this period with a sort of warm glow (Pun intended). Being at the mercy of some pig-thick communists doesn't sound like my idea of a fondly remembered period. I bet none of them queued up for their nasty capitalist claims for asbestos poisonings a few years back though - sticking to their socialist principles... If anyone needs me, I'm turning on my uninterrupted power supply of electricity. Thatcher, tsk. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Smiffs Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Frankly, I can't be arsed. I like a cyber ruck as much as the next man but its a waste of energy to have one with someone who equates trade unions with communists. Sorry Mick, I didnt mean you Mick, I meant Mick The Miner AKA Leigh White.
Smiffs Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Coal would be a good start, but the mines are now shut (and we've got shit loads still untouched), something had to be done about the miners but the end result means we will be held to ransom by over sea powers as long as we have to import gas to run gas fired stations, we could build some new nuclear ones, but you know what happens when that word gets mentioned, and even if we do build them we will have to pay through the nose for electricity for the next decade at least until they come on line Ahhh. but how much have we got? Enough to warrant a multi-billion pound project? Or enough to keep the streetlights on up Shak for a fortnight? I actually beleive we have quite a lot saved up 'for a rainy day' but is it raining yet and how economical is it to mine?
tyldesley_white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Ahhh. but how much have we got? Enough to warrant a multi-billion pound project? Or enough to keep the streetlights on up Shak for a fortnight? I actually beleive we have quite a lot saved up 'for a rainy day' but is it raining yet and how economical is it to mine? May be , may be not, now the mines are closed it would cost far to much to reopen them if was at all possible, and that was the point I was making, we are now short on options as far as keeping the lights on, the greens will tell you to use renewable energy. Great lets start putting wind turbines in the lake district and the greens will not let you do that, and we will need 1000s of the bloody thing, I've driven from Las Vegas to San Francesco and seen the wind turbines that are on the outskirts and they look bloody awful, so we come back to nuclear but the greens do not want that either, the UK needs a plan for its future energy needs and start now not in 10 years time, you?ve also got to remember that the nuclear station that we have are due to be shut down so we are already in trouble
leigh white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Sorry Mick, I didnt mean you Mick, I meant Mick The Miner AKA Leigh White. Go on then, i will take the bait. I came out on strike because i believed Scargill was right in his principles, it was not about the money, it was about the jobs. Thatcher knew if she could beat the miners it would mean the end of the unions. Notts miners got miles more money than the Yorkshire lot before the strike started due to individuel collective bargaining. So really the stage was set to put area against area before the strike kicked in. An overtime ban was in force 12 months before the dispute started, and Agecroft colliery was always badly effected with rope capping etc, so they kept getting sent home on Mondays on a reguler basis. So when the strike started, they crossed picket lines arguing about lost wages in the past. I think if Arthur would have called a ballot he would have got unity, but he argued why should one area vote on another areas job. Anyway the miners got beat, and the LOYAL Notts miners went up the road just the same. If i could turn back the clock 25 years, i would still do it all over again. BICKERSHAW COLLIERY 1877-1992.
green genie Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Done a fair bit of work on Coal Powered Stations for Eon and Npower, adding 10% biomass to the coal so that they are "Kyoto Green" Most of their engineers recommend investing in a portable diesel generator.
tyldesley_white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Go on then, i will take the bait. I came out on strike because i believed Scargill was right in his principles, it was not about the money, it was about the jobs. Thatcher knew if she could beat the miners it would mean the end of the unions. Notts miners got miles more money than the Yorkshire lot before the strike started due to individuel collective bargaining. So really the stage was set to put area against area before the strike kicked in. An overtime ban was in force 12 months before the dispute started, and Agecroft colliery was always badly effected with rope capping etc, so they kept getting sent home on Mondays on a reguler basis. So when the strike started, they crossed picket lines arguing about lost wages in the past. I think if Arthur would have called a ballot he would have got unity, but he argued why should one area vote on another areas job. Anyway the miners got beat, and the LOYAL Notts miners went up the road just the same. If i could turn back the clock 25 years, i would still do it all over again. BICKERSHAW COLLIERY 1877-1992. Thats where he fucked up.
M G WHITES Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Go on then, i will take the bait. I came out on strike because i believed Scargill was right in his principles, it was not about the money, it was about the jobs. Thatcher knew if she could beat the miners it would mean the end of the unions. Notts miners got miles more money than the Yorkshire lot before the strike started due to individuel collective bargaining. So really the stage was set to put area against area before the strike kicked in. An overtime ban was in force 12 months before the dispute started, and Agecroft colliery was always badly effected with rope capping etc, so they kept getting sent home on Mondays on a reguler basis. So when the strike started, they crossed picket lines arguing about lost wages in the past. I think if Arthur would have called a ballot he would have got unity, but he argued why should one area vote on another areas job. Anyway the miners got beat, and the LOYAL Notts miners went up the road just the same. If i could turn back the clock 25 years, i would still do it all over again. BICKERSHAW COLLIERY 1877-1992. Thatcher is a knob,not long now
mickbrown Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Go on then, i will take the bait. I came out on strike because i believed Scargill was right in his principles, it was not about the money, it was about the jobs. Thatcher knew if she could beat the miners it would mean the end of the unions. Notts miners got miles more money than the Yorkshire lot before the strike started due to individuel collective bargaining. So really the stage was set to put area against area before the strike kicked in. An overtime ban was in force 12 months before the dispute started, and Agecroft colliery was always badly effected with rope capping etc, so they kept getting sent home on Mondays on a reguler basis. So when the strike started, they crossed picket lines arguing about lost wages in the past. I think if Arthur would have called a ballot he would have got unity, but he argued why should one area vote on another areas job. Anyway the miners got beat, and the LOYAL Notts miners went up the road just the same. If i could turn back the clock 25 years, i would still do it all over again. BICKERSHAW COLLIERY 1877-1992. Hats off to you fella - must have took some balls to stay out that long.
C86 Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Go on then, i will take the bait. I came out on strike because i believed Scargill was right in his principles, it was not about the money, it was about the jobs. Thatcher knew if she could beat the miners it would mean the end of the unions. Notts miners got miles more money than the Yorkshire lot before the strike started due to individuel collective bargaining. So really the stage was set to put area against area before the strike kicked in. An overtime ban was in force 12 months before the dispute started, and Agecroft colliery was always badly effected with rope capping etc, so they kept getting sent home on Mondays on a reguler basis. So when the strike started, they crossed picket lines arguing about lost wages in the past. I think if Arthur would have called a ballot he would have got unity, but he argued why should one area vote on another areas job. Anyway the miners got beat, and the LOYAL Notts miners went up the road just the same. If i could turn back the clock 25 years, i would still do it all over again. BICKERSHAW COLLIERY 1877-1992. That's all he needed to do.... TBH I think he just wanted to bring down Maggie & the Government and used the miners. Didn't he buy a ?200K house during or just after the strike ended? Think he took a loan in his son-in-law name from the International Union Loan, sure I read last weekend. Anyhow I've always thought Scargill was a cnut
C86 Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Thatcher is a knob,not long now Yeh but don't forget she'll get a state funeral, Scargill will get a fooking brass band from Barnsley... All the Labour bods in charge now are praising maggie they weren't 25 years ago. New Labour Motto, "Do as I say not as I do".
Guest Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 The country had to change, we were beholden to the Unions and their political aims. The country was on it's knees. Someone had to effect change. She was not perfect, she emphasised the divides the in the country, but she achieved worthy aims. The real problem was that she did not finish the job, by not taking on the public sector. This country should be grateful to her, forever, for showing the people an optimistic vision, rather than the promulgation of a dependency culture. Pity the country didn't have the courage to follow her.
leigh white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Thatcher might get a state funeral, but i bet a few on here will be in a drunken state when it happens.
M G WHITES Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Yeh but don't forget she'll get a state funeral, Scargill will get a fooking brass band from Barnsley... All the Labour bods in charge now are praising maggie they weren't 25 years ago. New Labour Motto, "Do as I say not as I do". Big deal,she was a bitch who destroyed families and whole communities. She also used the police force as a organisation to crush a political dispute. Maggie's boot boys
Traf Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Thatcher might get a state funeral, but i bet a few on here will be in a drunken state when it happens. Frankie Boyle put it well: For what the state funeral is going to cost: they could give everybody in Scotland a spade and they'd deliver her to Satan (the Devil, not the notright from the East Midlands) in person.
little whitt Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 The country had to change, we were beholden to the Unions and their political aims. The country was on it's knees. Someone had to effect change. She was not perfect, she emphasised the divides the in the country, but she achieved worthy aims. The real problem was that she did not finish the job, by not taking on the public sector. This country should be grateful to her, forever, for showing the people an optimistic vision, rather than the promulgation of a dependency culture. Pity the country didn't have the courage to follow her.
bolty58 Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 (edited) someone who equates trade unions with communists. Give it a rest Mick FFS. Ant and Dec don't know each other either. Greatest British leader since Churchill. Edited March 12, 2009 by bolty58
leigh white Posted March 12, 2009 Posted March 12, 2009 Give it a rest Mick FFS. Ant and Dec don't know each other either. Greatest British leader since Churchill. Like this Bolty?
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