athywhite1958 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) I remember the " Slappy", a pie in a barm cake in Leigh about 71 at Clemmys Pie shop outside the tech. Gotheridge's pie shop at Atherleigh, best slappy's ever, and the daughter went to school with us [a year older than me though], every schoolboy's 'miss wet dream' Edited February 25, 2011 by athywhite1958
Sir_Francis Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Call thisen a Bowtner? You forfeit the right to criticize fellow Boltoners when you became an Australian citizen! Besides, half of the phrases you post look more at home in yorkshire than Bolton!
fatolive Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 You forfeit the right to criticize fellow Boltoners when you became an Australian citizen! Besides, half of the phrases you post look more at home in yorkshire than Bolton! now, bolty doesn't need me to defend him, but had to pull you up on that bit, Bolton used to be a stronghold of lanky speak, again, like the "barm" issue, it has been allowed to be over taken by manc twang. here, study this, and get thisen speykin reet. http://www.nyt.co.uk/lankytalk.htm Fatolive, 40yrs calling it a flourcake.
Sweep Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 now, bolty doesn't need me to defend him, but had to pull you up on that bit, Bolton used to be a stronghold of lanky speak, again, like the "barm" issue, it has been allowed to be over taken by manc twang. here, study this, and get thisen speykin reet. http://www.nyt.co.uk/lankytalk.htm Fatolive, 40yrs calling it a flourcake. I wonder, how many people actually say "Bowton" these days, other than doing it for effect? - in normal speech, I'm not sure I would ever use the word "Bowton" if I'm honest.
Didledee Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Flourcake sounds a tad gay, "Can I have a flower" Roses? Tulips?
fatolive Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I wonder, how many people actually say "Bowton" these days, other than doing it for effect? - in normal speech, I'm not sure I would ever use the word "Bowton" if I'm honest. no, true enough, i actaully blame neighbours and rap music myself, but it's probably more to with different accents coming into the town, but, it's still not yorkshire speak, which is what I was getting at. when i first started my apprenticeship, every bloke in the place spoke like that on the link, hence the first phrase i heard,when showing off the tools I had bought was "ast geet a good knockin stick, coz that's all tha'll need fert first yer" meaning (for the young ones) did you purchase a good hammer, as that is all you will require for the first year, meanining, as i found out "your going to be cleaning concrete from out of mixers for a while first"
Sir_Francis Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 now, bolty doesn't need me to defend him, but had to pull you up on that bit, Bolton used to be a stronghold of lanky speak, again, like the "barm" issue, it has been allowed to be over taken by manc twang. here, study this, and get thisen speykin reet. http://www.nyt.co.uk/lankytalk.htm Fatolive, 40yrs calling it a flourcake. I'm sure thisen is more Barsnley than Bolton. Besides, I'd say it's down to better education rather than Manc twang as to why we speak more clearly these days.
Casino Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 it's not a question of more clearly it's a different language not sure i'm happy that the town/county has lost its identity
Sweep Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Besides, I'd say it's down to better education rather than Manc twang as to why we speak more clearly these days. I fear you may soon feel the wrath of Bolty I don't think it's anything to to do with education, up and down the country "accents" are softening and changing, in my opinion, it's to do with quite a few things. Firstly, people are exposed to a lot more accents than ever before, and not just those from their home town. Secondly, people move around far more now than ever before, I moved away nearly 17 years ago, and whilst I still have an accent, it must have changed somewhat. Also, as pointed out, the youth of today all want to be American or Asian innit blood, do ya get me?.....and shite talk like that will eventually mean the accent dissapears completely, People also have to alter the way they speak for work purposes as well, if I speak with a thick Bolton accent to people in the Far East, they don't have a clue what I'm papping on about, so I have to change the tone, speed and accent of my speech in order to make myself understood
HomerJay Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 I wonder, how many people actually say "Bowton" these days, other than doing it for effect? - in normal speech, I'm not sure I would ever use the word "Bowton" if I'm honest. i dont say bowton, but i do get stick for sayin bulton and bury, rather than bolton and berry. and curtins rather than curtens for some reason. hth
bolty58 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Sorry Bolty, but i think Diddles is right on this one. As a kid growing up in 60's Bowton it was always flour cake,but over the years this has changed - if you went into most shops in Bolton now and asked for a bacon on a flour cake or a tuna salad flour cake, chances are the bird behind the counter wouldn't have a clue what you were on about - unless it was an "owd school" buttie shop/bakery. Bacon barm Chip barm Tuna salad barm etc,all have a certain ring to them now in modern day Bolton. Burndens bogs - Not frightened of change No Surrender.
bolty58 Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 (edited) You forfeit the right to criticize fellow Boltoners when you became an Australian citizen! Besides, half of the phrases you post look more at home in yorkshire than Bolton! You're a fucking imbecile pal. 1) Australian citizen? Permanent resident. 2) To your uneducated eye they may look like Yorkshire. Them that knows, knows. Lancastrian as can be matey. Do try to learn summat when you frequent this fine forum. 3) Uneducated? BCGS boy with 9 O levels and 3 A levels. Always stood me in good stead. No doubt you're a captain of industry? BTW, I lived in Bolton for 33 years. Suspect that's still more than you? Edited February 25, 2011 by bolty58
Whites man Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 You're a fucking imbecile pal. 1) Australian citizen? Permanent resident. 2) To your uneducated eye they may look like Yorkshire. Them that knows, knows. Lancastrian as can be matey. Do try to learn summat when you frequent this fine forum. 3) Uneducated? BCGS boy with 9 O levels and 3 A levels. Always stood me in good stead. No doubt you're a captain of industry? BTW, I lived in Bolton for 33 years. Suspect that's still more than you?
Smiffs Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 Chips in tomato soup, another Northern delicacy. Can't beat it. You'll never find that in any of them fancy dancy cooking books. Which reminds me, its Friday so thats take a big glass dish to the chip night and fill it full of slop.
Sir_Francis Posted February 25, 2011 Posted February 25, 2011 To your uneducated eye they may look like Yorkshire. Them that knows, knows. Lancastrian as can be matey. Do try to learn summat when you frequent this fine forum. Funny thing is, only you and a select few on this forum actually still use the old Lanky lingo.People in this fine town have moved on and the sooner you realise it the better! All you seem to do on here is talk about the old times, which for me makes you one hell of a fucking dull bastard!
bolty58 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Funny thing is, only you and a select few on this forum actually still use the old Lanky lingo.People in this fine town have moved on and the sooner you realise it the better! All you seem to do on here is talk about the old times, which for me makes you one hell of a fucking dull bastard! Better dull than dim my friend. Quite tickled by that. Been called many things but never dull I'll buy thee a beer next time I am up there. At least you have now acknowledged that it is, indeed, Lanky. I see no wrong in maintaining this. If the f?cking Welsh can wax lyrical about a lingo that four hundred and twelve of the f?ckers can speak, I shall do so with old Boltonese whether thy likes it or not. I have been back to Bolton many times since leaving in 1988, sir. As recently as the Brum game at home this season. I am fully aware times have changed and there's been an influx of all sorts of undesirables including Manc overspill. It surprises you that someone who left our fine town so long ago talks about things past? Things present would have to be Perth experiences which, to be fair, I do touch on from time to time. Just suspect that too much of that would be rather boring for the crowd on here as they know Bolton and it is a Bolton Wanderers forum. Here's a tip mate. There's an 'ignore' function. Rescue yourself from my dullness. I will be beside myself but I will get over the disappointment. You are younger than 33 aren't you? Edited February 26, 2011 by bolty58
bolty58 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Not an Aussie but get your drift. How entertaining would this place be if no one ever bit? Serial biter me. Makes for good banter.
Boothy Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 You are younger than 33 aren't you? I'm younger than 33, don't really get what he's alluding to. Everyone loves gone by times when things where like they used to be. Bolton is now a 'multicultural' community. Thus, it's satellite town identity has ebbed away and is now practically a non-entity. Got to say I laugh at my Grandad's lancs dialect. 'E 'ates Yoo-night-ed! He worked down the pits too. 'Kin hell, he's quintessentially Bowton!
Boby Brno Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I don't know anyone who actually talks 'Lanky' any more, certainly not Bolty but it is used on here a lot, usually in a humorous manner. There's a fairly wide age range on here which makes it that much more interesting than any other Wanderers fans forum. I'd like to think that I fall into the SELECT category.
SatanGreavsie Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Good site for samples of real regional accents: http://sounds.bl.uk/Browse.aspx?category=Accents-and-dialects&collection=Millenium-memory-bank&browseby=Browse+by+county&choice=J-L
Smiffs Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 All you seem to do on here is talk about the old times, which for me makes you one hell of a fucking dull bastard! Humerous nostaligia is often a one way ticket into a wench' knickers. When you are as old as Bolty you might want to remember that.
athywhite1958 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 The bloke who wrote the book 'Lanky Spoken Here', was Dave Dutton from Athy, he is a Sunday regular in the Athy arms, I can tell thee, there's a lot of banter with the Athy blokes talking really broad Lanky, last week we ripped him to bits for his latest role in Corrie.
bolty58 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 I'm younger than 33, don't really get what he's alluding to. Everyone loves gone by times when things where like they used to be. Bolton is now a 'multicultural' community. Thus, it's satellite town identity has ebbed away and is now practically a non-entity. Got to say I laugh at my Grandad's lancs dialect. 'E 'ates Yoo-night-ed! He worked down the pits too. 'Kin hell, he's quintessentially Bowton! Let me explain Boothy. I left Bolton when I was 33. Sir Francis was having a go at my bona fides on this issue with his 'sounds like Yorkshire to me' and 'migrating to Australia doesn't give you the right' type comments. Merely pointing out that I have (probably) lived in Bolton longer than he has. He will overtake me one day though. Seems he is unlikely to have become proud of his Lancashire heritage by then however.
bolty58 Posted February 26, 2011 Posted February 26, 2011 Humerous nostaligia is often a one way ticket into a wench' knickers. When you are as old as Bolty you might want to remember that. Errr, thanks mate (I think, Owd on a minute........)
Guest Posted February 27, 2011 Posted February 27, 2011 Thing is you don't go (and never did go) into a chippy and ask for a "Chip Flour Cake", only ever a "Chip Barm" As ever, context is everything
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