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Has anyone said they want Di canio. All I see is certain fans on twitter going 'wait for the idiots to suggest Di canio' etc. Haven't seen anyone say they want him.

 

I wanted him before we got Freedman.

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I wanted him before we got Freedman.

Was more referenced to now. Its a shame as I like the idea of a manager being like that, but in todays game its to easy to say fuck him and go somewhere else as players.
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Was more referenced to now. Its a shame as I like the idea of a manager being like that, but in todays game its to easy to say fuck him and go somewhere else as players.

 

How different the world would be if the maximum wage had never been abolished, and was now up to £2000 per week.

I blame Jimmy Hill.

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How different the world would be if the maximum wage had never been abolished, and was now up to £2000 per week.

I blame Jimmy Hill.

It certainly has created a monster. I certainly think the maximum wage going started the trend. But the creation of the premier league seemed to create the modern footballer that so many cant relate to.

 

I'm not against anyone earning what they can but there clearly is downsides to this. Bosman played a huge part too.

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Di Canio will always do a decent job in the lower leagues, working with sub-standard footballers who know they'll never be as good as he was. It's a deifferent ball game though when it comes to managing millionaire prima donnas.

That's what I think about Ince too - though more about him being tactically inept that will prevent him managing at top level.

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That's what I think about Ince too - though more about him being tactically inept that will prevent him managing at top level.

 

Go on then, I will do the honours

 

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apparently, you can't tell high earning pros what to do

 

if you do they refuse to play

 

dougies problem, perhaps?

 

fella on the radio - ex player - this morning says that players run the dressing room so you have to get the right players on side

 

wonder how many freedman has who are 100% loyal and strong enough to dominate the dressing room

 

i can think of a few of could fall into either category, but not many who would fall into both

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apparently, you can't tell high earning pros what to do

 

dougies problem, perhaps?

 

think he pretty much confirmed that with his fat cats on fat wages comment post blackburn

 

can't imagine any manager since Fat Sam would ever have had the dressing room on side

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the key was having kevin davies on side

 

in my opinion

 

and before that kevin nolan

 

And that's why Sammy Lee (brilliant coach that he is) was destined to fail.

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apparently, you can't tell high earning pros what to do

 

if you do they refuse to play

 

dougies problem, perhaps?

 

fella on the radio - ex player - this morning says that players run the dressing room so you have to get the right players on side

 

wonder how many freedman has who are 100% loyal and strong enough to dominate the dressing room

 

i can think of a few of could fall into either category, but not many who would fall into both

 

100% - Spearing

 

Rest - all of em

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think he pretty much confirmed that with his fat cats on fat wages comment post blackburn

 

can't imagine any manager since Fat Sam would ever have had the dressing room on side

 

Heard a story form Sam Baldock last week about fat sam

 

wasn't very complimentary

 

hardly suprising like as he didnt play him

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Just been reading, even his new signings have refused to play for him.

 

He banned anyone but coaches talking to the players at training.

 

He emptied the canteen at lunch time, nobody allowed near the players.

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Just been reading, even his new signings have refused to play for him.

 

He banned anyone but coaches talking to the players at training.

 

He emptied the canteen at lunch time, nobody allowed near the players.

Sounds like a right fascist.

 

????

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apparently, you can't tell high earning pros what to do

 

if you do they refuse to play

 

dougies problem, perhaps?

 

fella on the radio - ex player - this morning says that players run the dressing room so you have to get the right players on side

 

wonder how many freedman has who are 100% loyal and strong enough to dominate the dressing room

 

i can think of a few of could fall into either category, but not many who would fall into both

 

They were on his side last season. Maybe they've just started to lose patience with him. It works both ways.

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think he pretty much confirmed that with his fat cats on fat wages comment post blackburn

 

can't imagine any manager since Fat Sam would ever have had the dressing room on side

 

I remember Allardyce saying that he let the players run the dressing room and he ran things out on the pitch. I assume he meant that the senior pros policed the rest of the players and if someone wasn't performing, they'd let them know. It's a neat trick if you can organise things that way.

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I remember Allardyce saying that he let the players run the dressing room and he ran things out on the pitch. I assume he meant that the senior pros policed the rest of the players and if someone wasn't performing, they'd let them know. It's a neat trick if you can organise things that way.

I don't believe that. He might've said he let them but it would've been in his terms.

And no, I'm not bitter, just ITK on this

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There's a great article somewhere about his time at Swindon. Can't find the link right now, but if someone at Sunderland had read it before the appointment, he wouldn't have been appointed.

 

Shocking that he can even be considered for a top level appointment.

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They were on his side last season. Maybe they've just started to lose patience with him. It works both ways.

 

or he got em on side while knowing he didn't fancy 'em or couldn't afford them

 

summer comes, he tries to ship them out or he starts to get some work into 'em, everything changes

 

just flying a kite, cos i i dunno and i doubt you do

 

perhaps

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the key was having kevin davies on side

 

in my opinion

 

and before that kevin nolan

 

that train of thought leads me to think maybe that how SKD left the club under a cloud may have rubbed off on certain players

 

also got me thinking who our top boys in the dressing room have been 

 

assuming there's always at least one

 

bergsson

 

maybe even Deano

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