Members Rudy Posted December 25, 2021 Members Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Zico said: ImagineĀ Just imagineĀ JWT spotted another universe, coming towards us Imagine if they spot Chris Waddles penalty ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 25, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) If they turn it around and point it at the Earth, they might even be able to find @Youri McAnespie's cock, on a warm day. Edited December 25, 2021 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, Cheese said: If they turn it around and point it at the Earth, they might even be able to find @Youri McAnespie's cock, on a warm day. You don't nob potential Miss World candidates with a Chinese mouse nob - baby's arm. Don't talk wet - Happy Christmas Cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 25, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: You don't nob potential Miss World candidates with a Chinese mouse nob - baby's arm. Don't talk wet - Happy Christmas Cheese. Happy Christmas you mad bastard.Ā š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Anyhow you know my size after we exchanged dick pics in an experiment to see if we'd be compatible in exploring potential bisexuality. Cheese was about 8" flaccid and he had ladies knickers on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 25, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said: Anyhow you know my size after we exchanged dick pics in an experiment to see if we'd be compatible in exploring potential bisexuality. Cheese was about 8" flaccid and he had ladies knickers on. That was supposed to be kept between us, Mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 25, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 25, 2021 Right, if this telescope can "look back", then it's picking up radiation from the dawn of time. If radiation travels in straight lines (generally), then would it have to be pointing at the very source of the big bang? If not, then why don't the waves pass by it? And if they don't, then aren't they then being reflected from somewhere onto John Willy Lees' telescope? And if they are being reflected, then space must be finite with some big mirrors or similar at its edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 Cheese was also very keen to get a Brazilian Transsexual name of Bella involved in our shenanigans. I think 'choo choo train' was a phrase used more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Right, if this telescope can "look back", then it's picking up radiation from the dawn of time. If radiation travels in straight lines (generally), then would it have to be pointing at the very source of the big bang? If not, then why don't the waves pass by it? And if they don't, then aren't they then being reflected from somewhere onto John Willy Lees' telescope? And if they are being reflected, then space must be finite with some big mirrors or similar at its edge. I'm no expert on this by any means. But the best way I've heard it explained in that there is no 'centre' of the universe. Everything has been accelerating away from everything else ever since the bog bang at an ever increasing rate due to some hithero unexplained force (dark energy). Imagine being an ant on the surface on a deflated balloon. As air was blown into the balloon - from your perspective - you'd just see all other parts of the balloon accelerate away from you at an equal rate. But there wouldn't be a 'centre' or an 'edge' to look towards.Ā This article has a pretty good stab at explaining it!Ā https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/2013/09/17/where-is-the-center-of-the-universe/ Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 25, 2021 Moderators Share Posted December 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, kent_white said: I'm no expert on this by any means. But the best way I've heard it explained in that there is no 'centre' of the universe. Everything has been accelerating away from everything else ever since the bog bang at an ever increasing rate due to some hithero unexplained force (dark energy). Imagine being an ant on the surface on a deflated balloon. As air was blown into the balloon - from your perspective - you'd just see all other parts of the balloon accelerate away from you at an equal rate. But there wouldn't be a 'centre' or an 'edge' to look towards.Ā This article has a pretty good stab at explaining it!Ā https://www.wtamu.edu/~cbaird/sq/mobile/2013/09/17/where-is-the-center-of-the-universe/ Ā Brian Cox blew my mind when he explained that currently our galaxy has neighbouring galaxies, but in time we'll all drift apart Ie we're not alone in space in terms of neighboursĀ But we will beĀ Everything is just moving away from each otherĀ But not from a central pointĀ And some galaxies will bump into each other along the way, as they have already, and form new onesĀ Something like thatĀ And i don't even speak to my next door but one neighbours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 26, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2021 Right, this is sort of what I was expecting.Ā Everything moving away from. Everything else. Which means the radiation being measured now, all occurred at the same time, so shouldn't it all have dissipated into the space beyond space now? Also, it the galaxies etc are moving apart because of this force, then maybe the big bang is still going on, but as we're within it, we can't tell. Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 26, 2021 Members Share Posted December 26, 2021 17 hours ago, Youri McAnespie said: Anyhow you know my size after we exchanged dick pics in an experiment to see if we'd be compatible in exploring potential bisexuality. Cheese was about 8" flaccid and he had ladies knickers on. Ā Cheese is Kevin Rowland? 4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Right, this is sort of what I was expecting.Ā Everything moving away from. Everything else. Which means the radiation being measured now, all occurred at the same time, so shouldn't it all have dissipated into the space beyond space now? Also, it the galaxies etc are moving apart because of this force, then maybe the big bang is still going on, but as we're within it, we can't tell. Ā Iām far too hungover to get my swede around thisĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Right, this is sort of what I was expecting.Ā Everything moving away from. Everything else. Which means the radiation being measured now, all occurred at the same time, so shouldn't it all have dissipated into the space beyond space now? Also, it the galaxies etc are moving apart because of this force, then maybe the big bang is still going on, but as we're within it, we can't tell. Ā There was no 'space beyond' at the time of the time of big bang. It won't have dissipated from our perspective looking through a telescope, as we're literally 'seeing' whatever we pick up as it was billions of years ago.Ā The big bang isn't still going on. The big bang happened in an infinitesimally small amount of time. If you an even call it time. It only lasted for about 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds, before we entered the planck time epoch and then cosmic inflation. Still well under one second since the birth of 'time' though. Dark energy (which we don't understand) as a consequence of the big bang is causing the ever increasing expansion. I think this is one of the problems when you get this deep into the theory. A lot of it can only be explained mathematically and it breaks down when you try and put it into English (or any other language).Ā Anyway - this is a potted history as far as my tiny mind has been able to interpret it. Someone better versed in physics will be able to pick holes in this explanation - but it's about as good as I can do! š Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted December 26, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, kent_white said: There was no 'space beyond' at the time of the time of big bang. It won't have dissipated from our perspective looking through a telescope, as we're literally 'seeing' whatever we pick up as it was billions of years ago.Ā The big bang isn't still going on. The big bang happened in an infinitesimally small amount of time. If you an even call it time. It only lasted for about 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds, before we entered the planck time epoch and then cosmic inflation. Still well under one second since the birth of 'time' though. Dark energy (which we don't understand) as a consequence of the big bang is causing the ever increasing expansion. I think this is one of the problems when you get this deep into the theory. A lot of it can only be explained mathematically and it breaks down when you try and put it into English (or any other language).Ā Anyway - this is a potted history as far as my tiny mind has been able to interpret it. Someone better versed in physics will be able to pick holes in this explanation - but it's about as good as I can do! š It hasnāt cleared too much up. Mind you, Iām still wondering why marmalade isnāt just orange jam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 26, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2021 OK, how do we know then that the radiation is from so long ago, it was produced everywhere simultaneously? We can date rocks, via half life of isotopes for example, and back calculate by measuring level of decay. How do they know what their initial radioactivity level was though at the dawn of time- going back in time billions of years some of these elements must have been massively radioactive. At what point do you know that you can't go back any further, ie another doubling of activity? This decay is also, in part, sub atomic particles is this essentially the stuff that was emitted at the big bang and has been around ever since. The particulate component then coagulating into matter as we know it. Time itself was presumably created at this point too, if there was nothing before it. At what point in time, has everything decayed and moved away from each other that essentially there is no longer anything and we've reached the big silence? Ā In't milk brill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Ā Mind you, Iām still wondering why marmalade isnāt just orange jam. It's something to do with the added water and the fruit peel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 What is the universe expanding into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 26, 2021 Members Share Posted December 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sweep said: What is the universe expanding into? Space. Do keep upĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 26, 2021 Members Share Posted December 26, 2021 @kent_whiteĀ talk dirty to ne what exactly is going on here, rather me just saying, āitās mad thatā in a haze of marijuanaĀ I was too young to truly understand and appreciate it when it came outĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 26, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, Rudy said: Space. Do keep upĀ If infinity has no limits, and space goes on for ever, then surely there must be multiple universes? If Kent could sort this out, I might make a visit to the one where the whites are Premier league champions.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted December 26, 2021 Members Share Posted December 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: If infinity has no limits, and space goes on for ever, then surely there must be multiple universes? If Kent could sort this out, I might make a visit to the one where the whites are Premier league champions.Ā Maybe they already have a massive telescope and have seen usĀ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted December 26, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rudy said: Maybe they already have a massive telescope and have seen usĀ Aye, and are rapidly fucking up our physics so we can't find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 Neil Buzz Alfred resorts to violence when people point out the sham lie that the moon exists. We sent three blokes to a fictional planet using a 16k Sinclair Spectrum that crashes if you load Jet Set Willy. Course you did. Bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 26/12/2021 at 12:25, Tonge moor green jacket said: Right, this is sort of what I was expecting.Ā Everything moving away from. Everything else. Which means the radiation being measured now, all occurred at the same time, so shouldn't it all have dissipated into the space beyond space now? Also, it the galaxies etc are moving apart because of this force, then maybe the big bang is still going on, but as we're within it, we can't tell. Ā Right - so........ š Ā The radiation that the telescope is observing won't be there now. But we're not looking at what is happening now. We're looking at what that region of space looked like billions of years ago. And because no region of space is particularly unique - we can get some answers about what our region of space looked like at about the same time.Ā The big bang definitely isn't still happening. The big bang is just the name for the event that kicked it all off, and only lasted a fraction of a fraction of a second. Then there was cosmic inflation which is when the universe rapidly expanded after the big bang (and is even more bonkers than the big bang itself in my opinion) where the universe expanded by a factor of 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 times in less than a second. The equivalent of the length of half an electron expanding to the length of ten light years in much less a blink of an eye. After that everything seemed to slow right down up until about four billion years ago, when something that we don't understand properly yet (that they call dark energy) started to accelerate the expansion again, albeit nowhere near as quickly. And as far as we can tell, the further away things are, the faster they are accelerating away from us. To the point that if you were able to look far enough away, they'd be accelerating away faster than the speed of light (apparently that's possible if the whole universe is expanding).Ā Whether the universe will continue to expand or collapse back in on itself in a 'big crunch' depends on how much matter is in the universe and the geometry of the universe and whether it's flat, tubular, or saddle shaped ( something, I definitely can't get my head around). ššš Anyway - that's about as much as I've been able to glean from a load of pop science physics books.Ā Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 On 26/12/2021 at 14:16, Tonge moor green jacket said: OK, how do we know then that the radiation is from so long ago, it was produced everywhere simultaneously? Because everything we look at in every direction looks identical. That's what the cosmic background radiation is.Ā Ā On 26/12/2021 at 14:16, Tonge moor green jacket said: We can date rocks, via half life of isotopes for example, and back calculate by measuring level of decay. How do they know what their initial radioactivity level was though at the dawn of time- going back in time billions of years some of these elements must have been massively radioactive. At what point do you know that you can't go back any further, ie another doubling of activity? This decay is also, in part, sub atomic particles is this essentially the stuff that was emitted at the big bang and has been around ever since. The particulate component then coagulating into matter as we know it. Time itself was presumably created at this point too, if there was nothing before it. At what point in time, has everything decayed and moved away from each other that essentially there is no longer anything and we've reached the big silence? Ā In't milk brill. I've no fucking idea! ššš Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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