Our Eddie

[Mounts Kipper]

I am in the Horwich camp the premiership for clubs like BWFC without money is like death by a thousand cuts.

[no balls]

There's a thread on davidickeways.com about our finances

[tylswhite]

fook me, i had you down as one of the brighter ones

 

I was thinking he must be having us on!

 

[Horwich]

We are just a badly run club. We had many chances to improve the club, facilities and turnover and we have messed it up for good.

[Carlos]

I blame the incompetent middle-management.

[birch-chorley]

I was thinking he must be having us on!

 

Ha ha, didn't expect a bite, thought it was too bold

[Casino]

Ha ha, didn't expect a bite, thought it was too bold

 

that wasnt a bite sunshine

[Casino]

We are just a badly run club. We had many chances to improve the club, facilities and turnover and we have messed it up for good.

 

 

just so we know, what do you do for a living?

 

it might add some weight to your claims

 

otherwise, i reckon folk will just assume you're another one who finds it dead easy to point out how we should have done things differently but hasn't actually got anything of substance to offer

 

and remember, your bright idea needs to be finding 150 million quid, not an extra 2k a week through the gate paying 8 fcuking quid each

[Horwich]

Whats that got to do with how the club has been managed??

 

Anyone who thinks Bwfc had been ran well in the last 10 years is a fucking idiot

[Horwich]

Idea 1 - dont spunk 110% of your turnover on wages

[Ani]

just so we know, what do you do for a living?

 

it might add some weight to your claims

 

otherwise, i reckon folk will just assume you're another one who finds it dead easy to point out how we should have done things differently but hasn't actually got anything of substance to offer

 

and remember, your bright idea needs to be finding 150 million quid, not an extra 2k a week through the gate paying 8 fcuking quid each

TBF he said we are badly run, £151m debt, dropping a division, appointing two poor managers in a row, hardly point to a well run business.

 

We are a badly run business pretty sure that is a fact.

 

 

The job Norwich does, whatever it is, unless he is a Management Consultant advising the football industry on how to run a business, makes him no better or worse than anyone else at judging how we are run.

 

But does anyone think we have been run well in recent years ?

[Guest]

TBF he said we are badly run, £151m debt, dropping a division, appointing two poor managers in a row, hardly point to a well run business.

 

We are a badly run business pretty sure that is a fact.

 

 

The job Norwich does, whatever it is, unless he is a Management Consultant advising the football industry on how to run a business, makes him no better or worse than anyone else at judging how we are run.

 

But does anyone think we have been run well in recent years ?

 

 

We don't know shit

[Guest]

Whats that got to do with how the club has been managed??

 

Anyone who thinks Bwfc had been ran well in the last 10 years is a fucking idiot

 

There isn't a good way to run a football club, not one Bolton's size. They don't make money. Hard to do anything about that.

[BOWTUN BAKED]

There isn't a good way to run a football club, not one Bolton's size. They don't make money. Hard to do anything about that.

 

Utter bollocks!

[Horwich]

How do we compare to wigan? Iro how we have been managed?

[tylswhite]

How do we compare to wigan? Iro how we have been managed?

One difference. Whelan wiped all the money owed to him, Eddie hasn't (yet).

[Spider]

I still can't believe people compare running a professional football club to ANY other type of business.

 

There simply is no like for like comparison. Not one.

 

The wages are insanity, no other business has a wage bill that accounts for pretty much it's entire turnover. None.

 

 

There's no secrets, no cover ups, no vendettas against one or the other. The simple truth is that well supported clubs will prosper, and parochial clubs like ours will survive. Survive on the back of benevolent owners or an utter refusal to pay the wages needed to get anywhere near the "big time".

 

Boooo.

[Guest]

 

Utter bollocks!

 

Perhaps you can show how many clubs our size have actuallymade money? Even the the biggest clubs in this country and Europe have huge debts.

[BOWTUN BAKED]

Perhaps you can show how many clubs our size have actuallymade money? Even the the biggest clubs in this country and Europe have huge debts.

Do your own homework, I'm not your teacher.

 

Football clubs can choose to work within their budgets, projected forecasts etc.

 

Or they can choose to piss in the wind, chase the dream, be mugged off by agents & players.

 

Of course they can make money, that's down to management.

 

You're having the wool pulled over your eyes by some myth banded about in back street boozers, by some bloke that couldn't spell P&L, let alone recognise one.

[frank_spencer]

Perhaps you can show how many clubs our size have actuallymade money? Even the the biggest clubs in this country and Europe have huge debts.

Southampton?

 

Admittedly one out of many others. That said weren't they were fucked before the crane guy came in.

[Ani]

I still can't believe people compare running a professional football club to ANY other type of business.

 

There simply is no like for like comparison. Not one.

 

The wages are insanity, no other business has a wage bill that accounts for pretty much it's entire turnover. None.

 

 

There's no secrets, no cover ups, no vendettas against one or the other. The simple truth is that well supported clubs will prosper, and parochial clubs like ours will survive. Survive on the back of benevolent owners or an utter refusal to pay the wages needed to get anywhere near the "big time".

 

Boooo.

I ask again, does anyone think we have been a well run club in last 3-4 years ?

 

We were brilliantly run for a long time, we punched way above expectations because of good appointments, adapting to latest training methods and innovative approach to transfers (youri, jay jay etc)

 

I am not comparing us to a company I mean as a football club, we have been a shambles at times.

 

The saddest thing is that you can look at the FA cup semi final as the time if became clear that it had started to go wrong. Brilliant we had got there, helped by all good stuff from previous years building a base, but since then ? A fucking shambles.

[tylswhite]

I ask again, does anyone think we have been a well run club in last 3-4 years ?

 

We were brilliantly run for a long time, we punched way above expectations because of good appointments, adapting to latest training methods and innovative approach to transfers (youri, jay jay etc)

 

I am not comparing us to a company I mean as a football club, we have been a shambles at times.

 

The saddest thing is that you can look at the FA cup semi final as the time if became clear that it had started to go wrong. Brilliant we had got there, helped by all good stuff from previous years building a base, but since then ? A fucking shambles.

How can you say that? Its that stuff that played a big part in putting us so much in debt.

[Casino]

Southampton?

 

Admittedly one out of many others. That said weren't they were fucked before the crane guy came in.

 

 

thats proper clutching at straws seeing as they were in admin and division 3!

[BOWTUN BAKED]

Why would any football club, not having to appease shareholders, want to show a profit?

 

What happens if they do?

 

Think about it.

[Ani]

How can you say that? Its that stuff that played a big part in putting us so much in debt.

Fair point, but we spent lots of money, but we got somewhere.

 

The debt has continued to grow if anything quicker as we have dropped down.