Todays Games

[Traf]

3 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That Liverpool defence is an absolute shambles, individually and from an organisation point of view.

Yeah, but they weren't doing too badly until Gomez replaced Bradley.

As for Salah, his attitude does stink, but he's probably right based on how shit his replacements have been.

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, Zico said:

Not surprised arsenal lost at villa without their two main defenders v a team that's won 8 out of 9 or something like that 

Still don't think arsenal have the goals in them to win the title 

We disagree on your last sentence but your first one is very astute.

The resident bin dipper going on about bottlers 

You couldn't script it.

Allez, allez, allez.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 hours ago, Traf said:

Yeah, but they weren't doing too badly until Gomez replaced Bradley.

As for Salah, his attitude does stink, but he's probably right based on how shit his replacements have been.

This Salah situation is an interesting one.

Repeatedly this season, pundits have shown situations where he hasn't tracked back to help his fullback. 

Overloads causing the Liverpool defence problems.

Maybe managers have sussed out a weakness and have exploited it.

That is incumbent upon the manager to address- especially it players on the pitch aren't managing to sort it.

As for his comments; effectively saying he doesn't have to earn his place as he's already done it smacks of ego and a damaging attitude to squad camaraderie. 

He may have played his last game for the club, and it may be a good thing looking forward.

Not sure that losing some players has seen them replaced adequately yet, but perhaps it's simply time for a bit of a reset. No one is bigger than a club.

[Dr. Feelgood]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

This Salah situation is an interesting one.

....

effectively saying he doesn't have to earn his place as he's already done it smacks of ego and a damaging attitude to squad camaraderie. 

Taking his position to it's illogical conclusion they should have Ian Rush up front & Steve Heighway pinging the crosses in.

If he can't see that he's not adding enough, or his attitude is that he should be picked no-matter what then Slot must do whatever he needs to.

He'll be off to Saudi in the window I think.

[Johnnyrotten]

9 hours ago, Traf said:

Yeah, but they weren't doing too badly until Gomez replaced Bradley.

As for Salah, his attitude does stink, but he's probably right based on how shit his replacements have been.

I can't take Konate and Van Dijk seriously as defenders.  VVD seems too cool to try to block shots or tackle properly.  Konate just an accident waiting to happen, incredible he's playing in the Prem.

And the manager doesn't set them up to defend corners and set pieces, he just has them standing around marking space.  That Leeds player stood at the far post waiting for the ball while 7 red shirts mark the 6 yard box like schoolkids is laughable.   

[Dr. Feelgood]

13 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

... the manager doesn't set them up to defend corners and set pieces, he just has them standing around marking space.

Remind you of anyone ?

[little whitt]

2 shit games today 

[deeane Koontz]

22 minutes ago, little whitt said:

2 shit games today 

The Fa Cup games look more appealing 

[DirtySanchez]

Lots of empty seats at Brighton 

[Johnnyrotten]

6 hours ago, little whitt said:

2 shit games today 

I half watched them expecting to be disinterested, but both games were top quality and the atmosphere West Ham fans created was enough to keep my interest. 

Some of the moves and efforts on goal were breathtaking.  Bowen nearly scored an absolute worldy but it turned into an equally unbelievable double save from the Brighton keeper.  Then Bowen did score a fantastic goal, what a player.

One of the things that stands out watching Prem games compared to L1 is how many top quality shots the keepers save.  In L1 any half decent shot is a goal, in the Prem its routine to see great save after save.

Goal of the week from Harry Wilson, absolutely sublime, if you've not seen it, have a look.

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I half watched them expecting to be disinterested, but both games were top quality and the atmosphere West Ham fans created was enough to keep my interest. 

Some of the moves and efforts on goal were breathtaking.  Bowen nearly scored an absolute worldy but it turned into an equally unbelievable double save from the Brighton keeper.  Then Bowen did score a fantastic goal, what a player.

One of the things that stands out watching Prem games compared to L1 is how many top quality shots the keepers save.  In L1 any half decent shot is a goal, in the Prem its routine to see great save after save.

Goal of the week from Harry Wilson, absolutely sublime, if you've not seen it, have a look.

I really like Jared Bowen, great work ethic and a good eye for goal.

[Marc505]

https://davidmarples.substack.com/p/far-have-i-travelled-much-have-i?r=21lrb&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

 

Some thoughts from a 92 completerer.

[desperado]

31 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

https://davidmarples.substack.com/p/far-have-i-travelled-much-have-i?r=21lrb&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

 

Some thoughts from a 92 completerer.

As an away Nottingham Forest fan: 67

As an away Rotherham United fan: 9. 

As a neutral: 16

👀 

Its a good read 👏👍
 

 

[Alf Hartigan]

I’ve watched a couple of games this weekend. The first was Villa v Arsenal, best game I’ve seen in years and Villa have got to be seen as title contenders in my opinion. Proper end to end stuff with no team giving a thought of drawing or losing.

Second game was Sutton United v Shrewsbury. Very entertaining and Sutton unlucky to lose but their keeper was unbelievable in the way he was recovering defensive lapses. I’m sure he’ll have a professional career if he’s young enough. However, I’ve not checked out his name or age so it might have been a one off 🤔

[freds dad]

9 hours ago, Alf Hartigan said:

I’ve watched a couple of games this weekend. The first was Villa v Arsenal, best game I’ve seen in years and Villa have got to be seen as title contenders in my opinion. Proper end to end stuff with no team giving a thought of drawing or losing.

Second game was Sutton United v Shrewsbury. Very entertaining and Sutton unlucky to lose but their keeper was unbelievable in the way he was recovering defensive lapses. I’m sure he’ll have a professional career if he’s young enough. However, I’ve not checked out his name or age so it might have been a one off 🤔

He’s 26 and after being let go by Blackpool in 2021 he’s drifted round several non league clubs.

[London Wanderer]

On 07/12/2025 at 08:36, Tonge moor green jacket said:

This Salah situation is an interesting one.

Repeatedly this season, pundits have shown situations where he hasn't tracked back to help his fullback. 

Overloads causing the Liverpool defence problems.

Maybe managers have sussed out a weakness and have exploited it.

That is incumbent upon the manager to address- especially it players on the pitch aren't managing to sort it.

As for his comments; effectively saying he doesn't have to earn his place as he's already done it smacks of ego and a damaging attitude to squad camaraderie. 

He may have played his last game for the club, and it may be a good thing looking forward.

Not sure that losing some players has seen them replaced adequately yet, but perhaps it's simply time for a bit of a reset. No one is bigger than a club.

He’s not been good enough & has been dropped. Though to be fair, Isak has been even worse.

Understand his frustration, but his public reaction is a bit pathetic & hardly helpful to the club he loves.

Wonder if there will be a temptation to bring Alonso in should he leave Madrid. 

[Johnnyrotten]

18 hours ago, desperado said:

As an away Nottingham Forest fan: 67

As an away Rotherham United fan: 9. 

As a neutral: 16

👀 

Its a good read 👏👍
 

 

Just had a read of that, it goes on a bit but some really insightful stuff and things I'm sure we can all identify with.  The reference to that dusk you get at 16:45 in winter when you know the football results are coming in, or you're leaving the dark ground that was light when you arrived.

Hearing the same chants at every ground - too true.  My particular annoyance is that every goal in the EFL, every bloody single last one, is greeted by fans chanting "der der der der der der der, der, der, der, der, der, der, der....insert name of club (2 syllables)".  I first heard it when stood next to German fans at Old Trafford at Euro 96 and it sounded loud and impressive sung by 10k Germans in one end, now its like an admission of having no songs.  I don't think I've heard any established Prem teams sing it, just EFL and/or small clubs.

[Johnnyrotten]

Anyway on the subject of the 92, my neighbour went to Spurs v Brentford on Saturday, partly to tick off a new ground.  They are a couple in their 70s and she's already done the 92 (mostly v Bolton, but not all) but now needs to do the new grounds.  She's got 6 to go, the likes of Colchester.  She's also done over 30 Scottish.

Including non league and Irish, Spurs was her 324th ground in the UK!  They've both had S/Ts at Bolton since the 70s but don't get to many aways now that tickets are harder to come by, so they usually do non league when we're away.  Been known to go upto the North East and back in a day to watch someone like North Shields.  I thought it was worth a mention, we've sadly lost Ruth Crawshaw not too long ago and folk like these are what football's about to me.

[L/H White]

going back to doing the 92

are we saying I've lost, spurs, west ham & everton @Marc505 @Leyther_Matt

[Marc505]

11 minutes ago, L/H White said:

going back to doing the 92

are we saying I've lost, spurs, west ham & everton @Marc505 @Leyther_Matt

By my personal rules yeah.

Swindon got Salford away in the cup, which would have been another new one!

[frank_spencer]

22 hours ago, Traf said:

I really like Jared Bowen, great work ethic and a good eye for goal.

Apparently Danny Dyer is forever singing Jared's chant of "Bowen's on fire and he's shagging Dani Dyer" around the house.

[gonzo]

18 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

By my personal rules yeah.

Swindon got Salford away in the cup, which would have been another new one!

Wouldn't have been the same number though

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

going back to doing the 92

are we saying I've lost, spurs, west ham & everton @Marc505 @Leyther_Matt

Depends whether you went to the League Cup at West Ham not long after they moved 😊 

[Zico]

5 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Depends whether you went to the League Cup at West Ham not long after they moved 😊 

Should cup games even count?

For example 

It's the 92, it's football league grounds 

There'll be fans who went to Eastleigh in the cup, but they were non league at the time

If they were to get promoted, could those who went now claim it as a league ground visited? 

Because it wasn't when they went

 

[desperado]

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

going back to doing the 92

are we saying I've lost, spurs, west ham & everton @Marc505 @Leyther_Matt

No 😁

If that Geezer is talking about going as a Rotherham fan and a neutral, there’s a farcical amount of flexibility that’s being applied.

Its a strange game if you’re knocking off iconic grounds like White Hart Lane and Upton Park.

Should be with one club though in my eyes