davidjack Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) Who's in charge of this whole sorry mess though? Gartside is gravely ill; Davies has pulled the plug now the Premier League money has dried up - and never spoke to the fans anyway; Birch is frantically working out which assets are the most strippable; some shady fuckers (with or without any actual money) are waiting in the wings; Brett Warburton (we're told by Mark Iles, but never by Brett Warburton because he's busy working on his next mega million pound advertising campaign for selling bread) is seemingly doing the hokey kokey with various short term, high interest loans to the club; and all the other cunts on the board who've been in first class on the BWFC gravy train, charged with keeping the show on the road but failing miserably for their 300k a year, to the extent that we can't even pay a tax bill that's small change to them...not one of them has properly come to the wicket. Lennon - for all his failings, and there have been many in recent weeks - has had to act as chairman and chief exec as well as manager, because those spineless cunts have walked away. Throw in a squad that's not been paid for 2 months (or paid late at best - regardless of whether they're overpaid or not - which they are, of course, all on deals signed off by the aforementioned cunts) and the recipe is where we are now. Fucked. Let's hope there's enough money in the kitty for Eddie and Phil's statues though, eh? Edited December 28, 2015 by davidjack Quote
Rembrandt Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Who's in charge of this whole sorry mess though? Gartside is gravely ill; Davies has pulled the plug now the Premier League money has dried up - and never spoke to the fans anyway; Birch is frantically working out which assets are the most strippable; some shady fuckers (with or without any actual money) are waiting in the wings; Brett Warburton (we're told by Mark Iles, but never by Brett Warburton because he's busy working on his next mega million pound advertising campaign for selling bread) is seemingly doing the hokey kokey with various short term, high interest loans to the club; and all the other cunts on the board who've been in first class on the BWFC gravy train, charged with keeping the show on the road but failing miserably for their 300k a year, to the extent that we can't even pay a tax bill that's small change to them...not one of them has properly come to the wicket. Lennon - for all his failings, and there have been many in recent weeks - has had to act as chairman and chief exec as well as manager, because those spineless cunts have walked away. Throw in a squad that's not been paid for 2 months (or paid late at best - regardless of whether they're overpaid or not - which they are, of course, all on deals signed off by the aforementioned cunts) and the recipe is where we are now. Fucked. Let's hope there's enough money in the kitty for Eddie and Phil's statues though, eh? Bitter but not wrong. Quote
Horwich Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Keith andrews had scored 11 goals in 34 games prior to signing for us I was happy with that. Big wage as he was a bosman Quote
Guest Blixa Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Who was unhappy when we signed sordell or ngog? I both thought they had promise Keith andrews? Was happy when we got him Hindsight is a mega thing The fact that they didnt come through is the damning evidence here. Never mind hindsight, we are armchair punters - the manager will have scouted these players and should have known how they would fit into his team. If I recall, Sordell's scouting was asking Malky Mackay if he's any good. Then payimg out a few million and never playing him in the top division. Dreadful management. That's why we are in the shIt. Quote
Ratwhite Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Administration. The thread title. I'm at, bring it on ASAP stage. In the words of Edwin Collins, "rip it up and start again" Quote
Guest Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Administration. The thread title. I'm at, bring it on ASAP stage. In the words of Edwin Collins, "rip it up and start again" I hope to God your not as dumb as you make out........... Quote
Ratwhite Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 (edited) I hope to God your not as dumb as you make out...........Yup. Dumber in fact. There is no other solution to this plight. No buyers. Administration will, mean we end up with a new owner or extinction (as one of my equally dumb Man U tax man friends put it) Kiss kiss - Ratwhite Edited December 28, 2015 by Ratwhite Quote
EyesRight Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Yup. Dumber in fact. There is no other option to this plight. No buyers. Administration will, mean we end up with a new owner or extinction (as one of my equally dumb Man U tax man friends put it) Kiss kiss - Ratwhite So you want to gamble on our already rocky future even though we have assets? I'd rather try and get through the tough times avoiding administration by selling assets, with the stadium, training ground and academy being the last to go. All players (expect maybe younger ones) should be available for free transfer until we can bring our running costs in line with our incomings. We may even have to fund a % of contracts just to reduce our outgoings. We are highly likely to go down now so let's trim the squad to a manageable budget...if we have any takers for our players. Quote
only1swanny Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Going to hazard a guess that 1m a month is half our first team squad. After paying employers contributions etc. Makes it difficult to work out but possibly the 8/9 highest paid.. Amos Wheater spearing medo Davies pratley dervite moxey and maybe madine? Doesn't leave much to play with Quote
Ratwhite Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 So you want to gamble on our already rocky future even though we have assets? I'd rather try and get through the tough times avoiding administration by selling assets, with the stadium, training ground and academy being the last to go. All players (expect maybe younger ones) should be available for free transfer until we can bring our running costs in line with our incomings. We may even have to fund a % of contracts just to reduce our outgoings. We are highly likely to go down now so let's trim the squad to a manageable budget...if we have any takers for our players. "I" don't want to gamble anything. Just being a realist. The off field situation, no matter what anyone says, is impacting the on field. The longer this goes on the worse it gets. We won't get bought. Selling key players will undoubtably make the on field worse. This will still end up in administration no matter what bits of car-park and stadium we flog. People take your heads out of the sand... Quote
Sweep Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Aye and will bag a brace for Colchester against us next season! Even with the mighty Sordell, Colchester are bottom of Div 3, I doubt we'll be in the same division as them next year......give it another year and we might be though Quote
plodwhite Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 If we dont get sold i dread next season with reduced season ticket money and smaller crowds even less tv revenue we could be in massive trouble, sorry to state the obvious Quote
snowball Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 The fact that they didnt come through is the damning evidence here. Never mind hindsight, we are armchair punters - the manager will have scouted these players and should have known how they would fit into his team. If I recall, Sordell's scouting was asking Malky Mackay if he's any good. Then payimg out a few million and never playing him in the top division. Dreadful management. That's why we are in the shIt. Have a plus one my old mate. N'gog was a joke figure at Liverpool before we signed him and there were clear doubts over his 'durability'. Sordell was the classic panic buy and I remember reading the Watford lots comments and being worried. But as you point out what the fans think is irrelevant, the people being paid to make the decisions did not do their homework, the board were negligent in signing off on stupid contracts and the only ones suffering now are the fans. The others are still counting their money. Am sick to death of some on here blaming hindsight and the fact we were happy at the time. Dreadful management and dreadful decision making by the Board over the last five years are why we are so in the shit now. Bang on Quote
Sweep Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 . Let's hope there's enough money in the kitty for Eddie and Phil's statues though, eh? What the fuck are you on about? Quote
EyesRight Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 "I" don't want to gamble anything. Just being a realist. The off field situation, no matter what anyone says, is impacting the on field. The longer this goes on the worse it gets. We won't get bought. Selling key players will undoubtably make the on field worse. This will still end up in administration no matter what bits of car-park and stadium we flog. People take your heads out of the sand... My heads not in the sand but I'm not sure what you are saying? Why take voluntary administration now? What would it achieve? We only owe £700k don't we? Until the players become "creditors" after being unpaid? I think we can shift what we've got on the pitch without affecting assets...that might match our incomings and outgoings. I'd rather go down that route personally than the overly dramatic "take adminstration now". Quote
only1swanny Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 What the fuck are you on about? Fans paid for Nats.. I can't see many chipping in for Eddie. BTW what happened to all the shares when we floated? Quote
Casino Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 there were worth as much as used bogroll Quote
jules_darby Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 I always thought N'Gog had he potential to be a quality player Don't forget, those same Liverpool fans thought Diouf was shit, and he did alright for us didn't he? He does have great ability, he's just a pussy. And was completely the wrong signing to "replace" SKD in the way that we played Quote
bolton va va Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Have a plus one my old mate. N'gog was a joke figure at Liverpool before we signed him and there were clear doubts over his 'durability'. Sordell was the classic panic buy and I remember reading the Watford lots comments and being worried. But as you point out what the fans think is irrelevant, the people being paid to make the decisions did not do their homework, the board were negligent in signing off on stupid contracts and the only ones suffering now are the fans. The others are still counting their money. Am sick to death of some on here blaming hindsight and the fact we were happy at the time. Dreadful management and dreadful decision making by the Board over the last five years are why we are so in the shit now. Bang on Nobody would dispute that the appointment of Coyle was an utter disaster, but even that can only be with hindsight as nobody could have predicted the massive, lasting damage that he did to us......but trying to blame the board for his signings is ridiculous. Once a manager is appointed the board have to try & back his judgement, & if they tried to interfere with team matters no doubt you'd be the first to criticise them ( correctly in that case ) Quote
ex_midlandwhite Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 We only owe £700k don't we? Sadly I'd guess its a fair bit more than that now based on reports of loans secured against assets to Warburton and Nucleus? If ED turned off the tap a year ago (?) it could be c£10m. Obviously speculation based on papers/twitter etc but this might be the money any bidder needs to stump up Quote
frank_spencer Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 Up until the Wembley debacle Coyle was outstanding for us. His happy clappy management style wasn't able to give the players the kicking to get their heads out of their arse. Quote
C86 Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 McGinley has just said on radio him and Rioch would come in and manage for nowt if asked. Quote
Guest Blixa Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 McGinley has just said on radio him and Rioch would come in and manage for nowt if asked. So things could actually be worse... ...nothing against the god-like Rioch but he's had his day and McGinlay will never have his managerially. Quote
Bigtoe Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 McGinley has just said on radio him and Rioch would come in and manage for nowt if asked. Lolz. Quote
famouswanderer Posted December 28, 2015 Posted December 28, 2015 McGinley has just said on radio him and Rioch would come in and manage for nowt if asked. So would i Quote
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