Transfer Gossip

[masi 51]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I agree: those 3 were genuine for me, which was the point you made initially. 

The rest you didn't disagree on!

I cannot remember who started that game but i do not think any that are contracted for next season cried off

 

[wakey]

2 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:

I presume you mean "everyone" rather than anyone?  In which case, probably not.  But isn't that one of the reasons we have a forum, for folk like us to have discussions about them.  There's never a conclusion at the end where we say "so that's decided then, x player is quality and y player is crap".  There's no answer, all opinions are valid and add to the discussion, as long as its based on watching a player fairly regularly.  

 

I prefer player y.

[Eddie]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Once released from nursing tarts, he may well become more "dynamic".

Same with overcommitting with tackles.

Clearly time will tell with regards to how SS sees his squad, but he would appear to be more his type than the fannies are.

😂 we’re just going to have the usual back and forth on him.

I don’t see how having less fannies on the pitch means he can now turn less like a ship and accelerate/run faster over 5-10 yards - it’s just natural physical limitations. His fitness is great, his mental attitude is brilliant, but he’s physically limited to be a ‘dynamic’ centre mid.

As for suddenly getting better at tackling with less fannies on the pitch - unless those coming in are going to teach him how to tackle then again, it seems a stretch to me!

But I’ll agree to disagree to save the thread from going over old ground.

It really will be interesting to see what SS does with him.

[bwfc4ife]

3 hours ago, worthy10 said:

Can't questions GT effort, but I really think he has peaked, he tried to improve on his regular bookings last season but he is often crude and clunky. Physically he has bulked up. I would expect him to be relieved of his captaincy next season and if we improve in his position, he will slide down the pecking order. We'll see?

The difference with Thommo is his age, still plenty of time to keep improving. He see’s the passes and can’t quite execute it.

Against Blackpool at home, it was an almost stevie G like performance until he ran out steam and had to go off. He literally dragged us back into that game.

Sheehans good on the ball in little pockets and turns well but apart from that offers very little else. Zero physicality and I can’t remember the last time he played a defence splitting pass. Epitome of sideways and backwards

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

20 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

The difference with Thommo is his age, still plenty of time to keep improving.

There is, but in footballing terms he's not particularly young anymore

[Lancaster18]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

You just slated one of our better 

Edited June 21, 2025 by Lancaster18

[kent_white]

7 minutes ago, Lancaster18 said:

 

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[Tonge moor green jacket]

41 minutes ago, Eddie said:

😂 we’re just going to have the usual back and forth on him.

I don’t see how having less fannies on the pitch means he can now turn less like a ship and accelerate/run faster over 5-10 yards - it’s just natural physical limitations. His fitness is great, his mental attitude is brilliant, but he’s physically limited to be a ‘dynamic’ centre mid.

As for suddenly getting better at tackling with less fannies on the pitch - unless those coming in are going to teach him how to tackle then again, it seems a stretch to me!

But I’ll agree to disagree to save the thread from going over old ground.

It really will be interesting to see what SS does with him.

There are different ideas of being dynamic.

He isn't the most agile, but is perfectly happy to drive forward, and look to move the ball quickly. Has the odd thundertwatt on him.

Scored more goals than any other midfielder last season.

If SS wants width, and a more direct approach, and moving the ball faster, then that will suit him more.

Who knows, he may end up going- it depends upon what SS sees, but listening to how the manager is looking to change the style, and reduce the squad, then some more are likely to go. Morley, Sheehan, Randall, and to an extent Lolos all fit a similar model, and the only one entering the final year of his contract is Sheehan. He's the oldest, can't tackle a wet tissue, and therefore, from a pragmatic point of view, would be the easy one to move on.

Not sure anyone actually expected Collins to go- especially to a 4th division club- but it is clear that some of the soft fannies are going to be cleared out.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

40 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

The difference with Thommo is his age, still plenty of time to keep improving. He see’s the passes and can’t quite execute it.

Against Blackpool at home, it was an almost stevie G like performance until he ran out steam and had to go off. He literally dragged us back into that game.

Sheehans good on the ball in little pockets and turns well but apart from that offers very little else. Zero physicality and I can’t remember the last time he played a defence splitting pass. Epitome of sideways and backwards

This.

We've not had many clubs come in for our players, but only Tomo was one, and to a higher league team.

Morley was taken on loan, by a better team than us and performed well.

Meanwhile, Sheehan shits out, increasingly plays like a crab, and complains to fans about being kicked.

He simply goes missing too often, especially against better teams, which says a lot.

I'd drive him myself, but I'm not loading my van with cotton wool before we set off.

[Ryan]

Just watched this highlights video of N'Mai from last season. Obviously easy to say from a video only showing the good bits but I really hope we sign him, or at least someone similar. I've missed watching someone like this play for us. Dynamic, quick, exciting etc.

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I wouldn't ever claim Sheehan's a strong tackler but he does get routinely clattered by the opposition and from what I can tell mostly just gets on with it

[Dr. Feelgood]

10 hours ago, masi 51 said:

... No i do not think all who said they were injured were unfit to play

These would be the players released who already had clubs lined up ...... And i or more importantly Schumacher would have no issues with that ...

He fckg should do. A player who doesn't WANT to play, who feigns injury should find his paypacket light.

He's still under contract to the club and they are still paying him he should go out do all he can.

Edited June 21, 2025 by Dr. Feelgood

[masi 51]

19 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

He fckg should do. A player who doesn't WANT to play, who feigns injury should find his paypacket light.

He's still under contract to the club and they are still paying him he should go out do all he can.

How do you say a player has feigned injury....You could never dock a player for that. He would have the PFA in straightaway.

Players up and down the land who have been told they are not getting a new contract and have had offers from other clubs  will say they have this knock etc.

If that player was to play ang got a bad injury Bang would go any offer from a new club and potentially three years wages at say 5k a week.

It is like getting sent off on the 20th December...Do not condone it, but we all know it goes on

[Tonge moor green jacket]

47 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I wouldn't ever claim Sheehan's a strong tackler but he does get routinely clattered by the opposition and from what I can tell mostly just gets on with it

Of course he does. He doesn't possess the physical and mental attributes to sort it. That's why they do it, and it works.

He also got the second highest number of yellow cards iirc.

Moaning to fans about it after the game is a bad look though.

It's not going to get any easier for him, and he's not going to suddenly learn to deal with it.

[ianofcleveleys]

I think GT might do better in a side where more are on the same page in terms of effort and application, rather than one where he's charging around trying to shake a team of wet farts into some sort of action. 

If SS wants the team to play quicker and a bit more direct, he's capable of responding to that and going with it.

In short, he's one of SS's lesser concerns 

[waffer cup 07]

10 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

I think GT might do better in a side where more are on the same page in terms of effort and application, rather than one where he's charging around trying to shake a team of wet farts into some sort of action. 

If SS wants the team to play quicker and a bit more direct, he's capable of responding to that and going with it.

In short, he's one of SS's lesser concerns 

But never a captain

[TrickyTrotter]

11 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

But never a captain

He's come a long way as player since Keith Hill spotted him in non league.   No idea how good he is at motivating and inspiring his team mates - a lot to learn on last season's evidence but that says as much about them than him.  

I suspect he was chosen because he did put a shift in.   

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

38 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Of course he does. He doesn't possess the physical and mental attributes to sort it. That's why they do it, and it works.

He also got the second highest number of yellow cards iirc.

Moaning to fans about it after the game is a bad look though.

It's not going to get any easier for him, and he's not going to suddenly learn to deal with it.

He deals with it by getting back up and cracking on

[Tonge moor green jacket]

42 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

He deals with it by getting back up and cracking on

Getting back up and avoiding getting involved and maximising his ability. Might be nice to see him have a spat or two and give a bit back. 

Wouldn't mind if he made loads of runs into areas where his markers don't want to go, but largely he doesn't.

Time to move on.

[ianofcleveleys]

1 hour ago, waffer cup 07 said:

But never a captain

No, maybe not, but the fact he ended up being, and did his best, says much about Evatt's recruitment and the limp characters of the rest of them. The bar was lower than a snake's belly

Edited June 21, 2025 by ianofcleveleys

[Wanderlust]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I wouldn't ever claim Sheehan's a strong tackler but he does get routinely clattered by the opposition and from what I can tell mostly just gets on with it

Like Dion used to do he regularly throws himself on the ground if anyone breathes on him or steps across players to try to win free kicks. But also like Dion, refs were increasingly getting wise to him and awarding them less as last season progressed. Can’t say I’ve ever seen Sheehan get properly clattered although he does a half decent Tom Daley impression from time to time.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

42 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

Like Dion used to do he regularly throws himself on the ground if anyone breathes on him or steps across players to try to win free kicks. But also like Dion, refs were increasingly getting wise to him and awarding them less as last season progressed. Can’t say I’ve ever seen Sheehan get properly clattered although he does a half decent Tom Daley impression from time to time.

Utter bollocks

[Dr. Feelgood]

8 hours ago, masi 51 said:

How do you say a player has feigned injury....You could never dock a player for that. He would have the PFA in straightaway.

Players up and down the land who have been told they are not getting a new contract and have had offers from other clubs  will say they have this knock etc.

If that player was to play ang got a bad injury Bang would go any offer from a new club and potentially three years wages at say 5k a week.

It is like getting sent off on the 20th December...Do not condone it, but we all know it goes on

You know when someone is pulling a fast one, you have medical & coaching staff, you absolutely can tell.

Moving on, they're under contract, they're your employee & you can expect them to fulfill their duties.

If they refuse you suspend them & fine them to the max.

Just giving up & saying there's nowt can be done is pathetic.

[Eddie]

6 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Like Dion used to do he regularly throws himself on the ground if anyone breathes on him or steps across players to try to win free kicks. But also like Dion, refs were increasingly getting wise to him and awarding them less as last season progressed. Can’t say I’ve ever seen Sheehan get properly clattered although he does a half decent Tom Daley impression from time to time.

😂😂😂

Question his ability, effectiveness, how tough his is etc., but if you’ve not seen Sheehan get clattered then what you’re saying is that you don’t watch any of our games. He gets properly twatted at least once in every game.

[masi 51]

29 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

You know when someone is pulling a fast one, you have medical & coaching staff, you absolutely can tell.

Moving on, they're under contract, they're your employee & you can expect them to fulfill their duties.

If they refuse you suspend them & fine them to the max.

Just giving up & saying there's nowt can be done is pathetic.

In all honesty if you are playing dead rubbers at the back end of the season you are all ready planning for next season

Out of contract players would not figure high in the managers thoughts.

Think you are seeing issues where really none lay......As someone attending games at the backend of the season do you really want to watch players who have no future in the club stroll around and not put a shift in.....Or do you want to see two or three kids thrown in and run all day trying 100%

 

Edited June 22, 2025 by masi 51