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18 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

“Properly twatted”? 
LOL

You have no idea. 
This is a random selection - and btw Simunovic at number 10 isn’t even a foul as he won the ball and it had gone before the opponent arrived and fell over

 

I stand corrected, you’re absolutely right he’s not been on the receiving end of one of the top 10 worst tackles in football. Soft bastard

30 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

“Properly twatted”? 
LOL

You have no idea. 
This is a random selection - and btw Simunovic at number 10 isn’t even a foul as he won the ball and it had gone before the opponent arrived and fell over

 

Sorry but I’d take Toal’s and Maghoma’s at Wembley and Holden’s pre Wembley as worse than at least half of those but they probably weren’t as theatrical.

10 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Sorry but I’d take Toal’s and Maghoma’s at Wembley and Holden’s pre Wembley as worse than at least half of those but they probably weren’t as theatrical.

My favourite is still former Oldham and Burton manager Dino Maamria’s assault on a player when he was playing for Southport. And the ref’s decision that followed it…

 

9 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Like Dion used to do he regularly throws himself on the ground if anyone breathes on him or steps across players to try to win free kicks. But also like Dion, refs were increasingly getting wise to him and awarding them less as last season progressed. Can’t say I’ve ever seen Sheehan get properly clattered although he does a half decent Tom Daley impression from time to time.

You seem to confusing Sheehan with Collins.

15 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Not for me.

Same applies to Morley and Randall.

Don't need all three.

The other two are younger and have longer contracts.

Wherever he plays, he will still be targeted, and there is only so much protection others can be expected to offer. Once a player starts shitting out of tackles, and that results in conceding goals, then they can go.

He has had his day for me, and epitomises the Evatt failings.

If the squad is being reduced, sell him whilst we can,  get a bit for him and invest his wages into areas that need strengthening- another striker or two.

 

It’s a fair and valid point, be interesting to see Schumacher’s call on Sheehan. 

36 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

You seem to confusing Sheehan with Collins.

TBF we are blessed with lightweights.

18 minutes ago, Wanderlust said:

TBF we are blessed with lightweights.

you're also forgetting to say "I really like Sheehan but ..." before you slag him off. 😁

Sheehan sits in the happy either way camp for me. If we sell and replace good.

If Schuey thinks he can do a job for us good.

He’s talented and if we can stop the style of play all going through him, then I reckon he won’t be targeted as much (resource needed elsewhere) then this could be great.

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

My favourite is still former Oldham and Burton manager Dino Maamria’s assault on a player when he was playing for Southport. And the ref’s decision that followed it…

 

Another assault/yellow.

 

14 minutes ago, Matt Lofthouse said:

Another assault/yellow.

 

"Gotta be on the brink of a red"

Ben Thatcher was a proper snide cowardly shite of a player.

Under the previous regime/system any managers first instruction is to get stuck in to Sheehan. He gets kicked out of the game.

Normally it's because he's coming deep and receiving a suicide ball from 5 yards facing his own goal.

Folk say he goes missing in big games, that variably means the opposition have done a job on him and we never thought of a way to counteract that.

I’m pretty neutral on Sheehan , but Gonzo makes a good point .Under Evatt’s tactical myopia he was always exposed.Might be that SS has a different role for him less water carrying more incisional ?

15 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I wouldn't ever claim Sheehan's a strong tackler but he does get routinely clattered by the opposition and from what I can tell mostly just gets on with it

I agree, I think that part of his game is underrated.  Gets clattered, comes back for more.  Often gets stuck in against much bigger players, unfortunately on two occasions when he very much didn't get stuck in, we conceded (Bristol A and Rotherham H I think).  We need more than him physically but he's far from being a fanny, that goal he scored against Crawley a good example of going in where it hurts and getting rewarded.  Its just that when its not his type of game, where we aren't the dominant team, the game can pass him by for long periods.  

Best game I've seen Sheehan in was vs Luton at home when it wasn't blood and thunder and he had some space to play. 

We lost 8 of the last q

20. Tje final 4 became dead rubber the others were not at the time & a modicum of performance would have meant the last ones weren't either.

And, whilst under contract I expect players to put a shift in. Did we get any money back ? Cheaper food & drink ? Discount for next season ?

I’d love to see Sheehan in a faster team and with proper wingers to pick out as an option.

I’m not saying I definitely want him to stay, he is part of the soft underbelly of the old regime, there’s no doubt about that, but he’s very good at that diagonal ball over a full back and I think he’s been restricted in getting the ball moving by our lack of pace and general lack of movement from our frankly shit front line last season.

Anyway, whatever will be will be. SS is saying all the right things about what he wants his side to be. If he thinks that Sheehan or GT work well in achieving it then great, I’m looking forward to seeing it.

Could the reason he gets ‘clattered’ be that he Fanny’s around too long inviting the challenge? I wish his passing was quicker and more often forwards as opposed to sideways/backwards

In the long and chequered history of w.w is there another post with a title that goes on to spout so much drivel ?  

Jesus h christ.  Turn it in people.

14 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

Like Dion used to do he regularly throws himself on the ground if anyone breathes on him or steps across players to try to win free kicks. But also like Dion, refs were increasingly getting wise to him and awarding them less as last season progressed. Can’t say I’ve ever seen Sheehan get properly clattered although he does a half decent Tom Daley impression from time to time.

I saw it differently to that generally.  Not saying he never "buys" a free kick - every attacking player does that don't they?  Tutu, Schon, Collins, Charles etc.  Tomo's method is to fall randomly to the ground and pick the ball up with both hands (bizarre he's never been booked for that). 

Its not about getting "properly clattered", its the cumulative effect of a lot of fouls on him, they aren't going to make a list of all time worst fouls but definitely plenty are "robust".

8 hours ago, masi 51 said:

In all honesty if you are playing dead rubbers at the back end of the season you are all ready planning for next season

Out of contract players would not figure high in the managers thoughts.

Think you are seeing issues where really none lay......As someone attending games at the backend of the season do you really want to watch players who have no future in the club stroll around and not put a shift in.....Or do you want to see two or three kids thrown in and run all day trying 100%

 

I can't think of many examples of players not putting a proper shift in, but I must admit I thought that of Lolos in the last home game.  Clearly out of favour, but given a start because we were down to the bare bones, played out of position on the wing, his heart wasn't in it.  That wasn't the player I'd watched in the rest of the season, when his ability may be questioned but not his application. 

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Under the previous regime/system any managers first instruction is to get stuck in to Sheehan. He gets kicked out of the game.

Normally it's because he's coming deep and receiving a suicide ball from 5 yards facing his own goal.

Folk say he goes missing in big games, that variably means the opposition have done a job on him and we never thought of a way to counteract that.

Quite possibly so, but I don't see SS (and a great deal of point) on rebuilding a team to get the "very best" out of a 30 year old with one year left on his deal.

If we're holding all the team to account for bottling performances, rather than battling ones, then he has to look at himself as much as anyone for me.

As above though, putting our opinions on him to one side, if we're assuming one or two of these midfielders are going, to reduce squad size etc, then from a pragmatic point of view, Sheehan would be one of the easier/cheaper ones.

Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Quite possibly so, but I don't see SS (and a great deal of point) on rebuilding a team to get the "very best" out of a 30 year old with one year left on his deal.

If we're holding all the team to account for bottling performances, rather than battling ones, then he has to look at himself as much as anyone for me.

As above though, putting our opinions on him to one side, if we're assuming one or two of these midfielders are going, to reduce squad size etc, then from a pragmatic point of view, Sheehan would be one of the easier/cheaper ones.

Aye agreed. He's part of that weak culture that's blighted us. Nobody is safe for me.

He's a good player, up to SS to get the best out of him now.

51 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Quite possibly so, but I don't see SS (and a great deal of point) on rebuilding a team to get the "very best" out of a 30 year old with one year left on his deal.

If we're holding all the team to account for bottling performances, rather than battling ones, then he has to look at himself as much as anyone for me.

As above though, putting our opinions on him to one side, if we're assuming one or two of these midfielders are going, to reduce squad size etc, then from a pragmatic point of view, Sheehan would be one of the easier/cheaper ones.

Pretty sure he has 2 years. Vaguely remember being a 3 year at the time. Apologies if I’m wrong

In recruitment I always considered ...

1. Would you move Heaven & Earth to get this person on board ?

2. If you walked in & this person was already here would I feel the need to move them on ?

Well, also ...

3. If female are they fit ?

4. Do they support Stretford or Liverpool ?

I would not be looking to tip Sheehan out with the trash.

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