Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 9, 2017 Posted July 9, 2017 Still gives me cause for concern when you see Iraqi troops dancing around firing weapons into the air. Just doesn't look right. Hope whatever follows is more stable. Quote
madthatter Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Can anyone believe that vitriolic venomous viper Linda Sarsour is still on American streets spewing out her endless vile ? I'd have thought after her comments last week re the White House, she'd have been banged up by now. She is one dangerous hypocritical cow. Saw a pop up thing earlier saying she'd called for a Jihad on Trump. Blimey! If true that's basically saying openly she wants to kill the US President in the name of Islam . . . She's a cold, calculated menace and more fool any gullible spazwhopper who thinks she speaks for human, women's, gay or any other minority rights. Quote
miamiwhite Posted July 10, 2017 Posted July 10, 2017 Oh......that's all right then you cunt.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-northern-ireland-40560590/ira-suspect-hayes-sorry-for-birmingham-bombings Quote
bolty58 Posted July 11, 2017 Posted July 11, 2017 Oh......that's all right then you cunt.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-northern-ireland-40560590/ira-suspect-hayes-sorry-for-birmingham-bombings Now come on matey. Let's let bygones be bygones eh? Jeremy wants it this way. (I'd string the pair of them up side by side if it was up to me). Quote
miamiwhite Posted July 12, 2017 Posted July 12, 2017 Proximate cause......hmmmm,I wonder ... https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jul/12/uk-terror-funding-report-will-not-be-published-for-national-security-reasons Quote
bolty58 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Should be published and get it all out in the open. The flood of atrocities in the name of Islam has to be stemmed and if publishing upsets trading relationships with the likes of Saudi Arabia and others then it is a price we must pay. It has already been allowed to go way too far. There has to be a common cause for all freedom valuing nations to completely crush and eradicate this poison once and for all. Call it a crusade, WW3, whatever the fuck you want but it has to happen. Quote
MickyD Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 It has already been allowed to go way too far. There has to be a common cause for all freedom valuing nations to completely crush and eradicate this poison once and for all. Call it a crusade, WW3, whatever the fuck you want but it has to happen. But "they" are amongst us. They aren't wearing the uniform or badges of an organised millitia and thus are impossible to differentiate between those who are intent on harming the world and those who aren't. I'd hazard a guess that even their parents won't know their sons harbour a hatred of Western values; a hatred so deep that they'll pick up arms against us. Who will we be at war against? Anyone who wears Islamic clothing? Anyone who steps foot in a mosque? This is an impossible war. Quote
madthatter Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 (edited) But "they" are amongst us. They aren't wearing the uniform or badges of an organised millitia and thus are impossible to differentiate between those who are intent on harming the world and those who aren't. I'd hazard a guess that even their parents won't know their sons harbour a hatred of Western values; a hatred so deep that they'll pick up arms against us. Who will we be at war against? Anyone who wears Islamic clothing? Anyone who steps foot in a mosque? This is an impossible war. Anyone funding it for starters. Not a surprise but it's shocking that this isn't being published. Vested interests or national security, I wonder? We stopped trade (well some) with SA during apartheid why not cease any trade with any country known to fund daesh terrorism or refuses to denounce or condemn such militant and extreme forms of Islam? : I saw an ex army commander talk about NI and how the terrorist groups worked. Very interesting; he said there was a core group of 'active' people but then a much larger ring that would fund, house, cooperate with etc. A lot more would be sympathetic to the cause. My guess is that's the case here with Islam. Edited July 13, 2017 by madthatter Quote
Zico Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Should be published and get it all out in the open. The flood of atrocities in the name of Islam has to be stemmed and if publishing upsets trading relationships with the likes of Saudi Arabia and others then it is a price we must pay. It has already been allowed to go way too far. There has to be a common cause for all freedom valuing nations to completely crush and eradicate this poison once and for all. Call it a crusade, WW3, whatever the fuck you want but it has to happen. Should take it a step further and upset them by refusing to do business with them full stop till they sort it out Which in turn will mean they don't have weapons to fight us with when ww3 starts We got in bed with the Saudis and turned a blind eye to the w word years ago, so now we have to get out and hit them where it hurts us both Quote
bolty58 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Should take it a step further and upset them by refusing to do business with them full stop till they sort it out Which in turn will mean they don't have weapons to fight us with when ww3 starts We got in bed with the Saudis and turned a blind eye to the w word years ago, so now we have to get out and hit them where it hurts us both All fair points my friend. Can't argue with any of that. Quote
bolty58 Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 But "they" are amongst us. They aren't wearing the uniform or badges of an organised millitia and thus are impossible to differentiate between those who are intent on harming the world and those who aren't. I'd hazard a guess that even their parents won't know their sons harbour a hatred of Western values; a hatred so deep that they'll pick up arms against us. Who will we be at war against? Anyone who wears Islamic clothing? Anyone who steps foot in a mosque? This is an impossible war. Besides the obvious mentioned by Madhatter (i.e. go after the funding), as far as within the UK is concerned and those we have foolishly allowed to live amongst us; we have been told over and over again that there are 3,000 hardcore known to our security services and another 20,000 on watch lists so my suggestion would be that we start there. Doesn't really matter if they disguise themselves as Mr. Pastry and Cardinal Fang - I would imagine that the level of monitoring has been so good that not many could simply fade into the background. Quote
madthatter Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I find this quote interesting 'Some extremist Islamist organisations “portray themselves as charities to increase their credibility and to take advantage of Islam’s emphasis on charity”, and are vague about both their activities and their charitable status, it said.' Whilst that is most certainly the case it is up to Muslim groups first and foremost to oust this - said this for a long time. If any charity in the UK was, let's say, embezzling funds - let alone funding the murder of children, we would be up in arms and ensuring those involved were brought to justice. Sure, some folk won't know and will be deceived, just like any other decent folk in the above scenario would be; but it's only Muslims that are making the contributions (and accepting them). Surely you'd not want to be funding death or crimes against humanity? Quote
Big E Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Has anything happened regarding the Manchester bomb? Anyone charged for helping him? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 The report should be published. Not happy with opposition parties trying to make capital out of it though. Been in bed with Saudis across many governments of all persuasions. Whichever is in power would be nervous about it, but maybe nows the time. Quote
madthatter Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 The report should be published. Not happy with opposition parties trying to make capital out of it though. Been in bed with Saudis across many governments of all persuasions. Whichever is in power would be nervous about it, but maybe nows the time. Be interested to see if Cameron's intentions were for it to be published in the first place. Surprises me how little coverage this is getting, well not really, but you get what I mean? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I doubt any government would want to publish it, maybe use it internally for monitoring etc. Quote
madthatter Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I doubt any government would want to publish it, maybe use it internally for monitoring etc. I can see reasons why they would hold back but I suspect it's more to do with hiding business interests that knowingly, or not, have ties to terrorism somewhere down the line. It's this aspect I think is worryingly kept secret. Money talks, or not as the case may be, as ever I suppose. It was a public inquiry wasn't it? Could be wrong on that or perhaps misunderstanding the term? Quote
miamiwhite Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Interesting read http://www.shariahfinancewatch.org/blog/2012/08/28/how-zakat-funds-jihad/ Any one found to be a terror funding should be shut down instantly, no ifs no buts. Shut down and not allowed to reopen under a different guise. Quote
miamiwhite Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 Legal or illegal ? https://mobile.twitter.com/DefendEuropeID Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 13, 2017 Posted July 13, 2017 I can see reasons why they would hold back but I suspect it's more to do with hiding business interests that knowingly, or not, have ties to terrorism somewhere down the line. Aye, that's what I was meaning. Just can't see any government publishing something like this because of the potential harm to trade and jobs. And oil. I have a belief that that is a reason behind much investment into alternative energy programmes. Obviously cleaner but allows us to distance ourselves a bit from these people. Eventually. Quote
gonzo Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 5 acid attacks in 90 mins in London? Hope this isn't terror related Quote
madthatter Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 5 acid attacks in 90 mins in London? Hope this isn't terror related Two loons on a moped is all I can gather. What is wrong with people? Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 (edited) Legal or illegal ? https://mobile.twitter.com/DefendEuropeID Trying to work out what's going on. As a non twatter person its a bit vague. Just found out; as long as no one is harmed or treated badly, can't see owt wrong. If they're tackling the traffickers then great. Interesting, those of a different view want the assets seizing. Edited July 14, 2017 by Tonge moor green jacket Quote
madthatter Posted July 14, 2017 Posted July 14, 2017 Trying to work out what's going on. As a non twatter person its a bit vague. Just found out; as long as no one is harmed or treated badly, can't see owt wrong. If they're tackling the traffickers then great. Interesting, those of a different view want the assets seizing. Vigilante border control . . .Jesus, it's a poor do it really is. Quote
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