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Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 31, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 I'm not believing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted January 31, 2019 Author Share Posted January 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Ani said: Name one person on here who idolises him Bolty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: I'm not believing that. BBC acknowledged it as "simple human error" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: BBC acknowledged it as "simple human error" I'm guessing at least one person lost their job over that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 31, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 59 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: BBC acknowledged it as "simple human error" It's definitely real then? That clip earlier was so jumpy it seemed a poor fake. Must have been poor filming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: And there’s no border ever going to go back up whatever happens. It’s best an agreement was negotiated don’t you think? So a wide open land route into the uk Getting our borders back Fcuking jokers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: No different to now. You keep coming back to that; numerous discussions over security etc took place before the meaningful vote, and were covered in the deal. If you can be arsed, have a trawl through the 580odd pages and see what is says about this. I don't know the proposed system, and I'm not worried as there seems to have been no issues with this brought up in parliament over recent times. As above, an open border Fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 31, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, Casino said: As above, an open border Fantastic There's an extremely simple solution to the border issue. Have you seen the film Robocop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 15 minutes ago, Casino said: So a wide open land route into the uk Getting our borders back Fcuking jokers Aye I can see 1000s of these Illegals, heading for Southern Ireland making their way across Ireland into Northern Ireland to then cross the Irish sea from Northern Ireland to enter into England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darwen_white Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 It's not rocket science to carry out checks away from the official border. Example, when vans leave their depots or when refugees immigrants rock up in Brittany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye I can see 1000s of these Illegals, heading for Southern Ireland making their way across Ireland into Northern Ireland to then cross the Irish sea from Northern Ireland to enter into England. It's nowt to do with what you see Its a simple fact that our border will be wide open Just what you voted for #gettingourbordersback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 14 minutes ago, darwen_white said: It's not rocket science to carry out checks away from the official border. Example, when vans leave their depots or when refugees immigrants rock up in Brittany. And who is going to do these checks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Casino said: It's nowt to do with what you see Its a simple fact that our border will be wide open Just what you voted for #gettingourbordersback Wide open to what? If we had a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland you think that might stop anyone with a mind to cross it? The odd cow might wander across unchecked. Edited January 31, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted January 31, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 39 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Aye I can see 1000s of these Illegals, heading for Southern Ireland making their way across Ireland into Northern Ireland to then cross the Irish sea from Northern Ireland to enter into England. It’s about uk borders not England’s, but, that aside, it’s about an hour I’d say from Ireland’s closest port for passenger ships to the border, that’s a guess, fishing ports are about 10 mins walk. Not saying for a minute that people will or won’t come that way, but, It isn’t a big schlep accross bog land if they do and to be met with absolutely no check to enter the uk isn’t what people said they voted for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: It's definitely real then? That clip earlier was so jumpy it seemed a poor fake. Must have been poor filming. Def real https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jan/31/theresa-may-will-not-be-flying-to-brussels-in-spitfire-bbc-clarifies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, fatolive said: It’s about uk borders not England’s, but, that aside, it’s about an hour I’d say from Ireland’s closest port for passenger ships to the border, that’s a guess, fishing ports are about 10 mins walk. Not saying for a minute that people will or won’t come that way, but, It isn’t a big schlep accross bog land if they do and to be met with absolutely no check to enter the uk isn’t what people said they voted for. I see that route as a very low risk as most illegals want to enter mainland UK, even with a hard border 2 counties sharing a land border would still have these issues. It’s a non story in the grand scheme of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 31, 2019 Moderators Share Posted January 31, 2019 From NI to Scotland, there'll be no fucking checks Are you being deliberately dense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Casino said: From NI to Scotland, there'll be no fucking checks Are you being deliberately dense? You really think that these illegals are gonna choose the longest route possible? Will they fuck, they’ll continue to do the 25 mile from Calais to Dover or boat in across the channel. Anyhow the half dozen who might get through that route, let the jocks have them, I’d give them independence referendum 2 then they can rejoin the EU, kill 2 birds with one stone. Edited January 31, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: You really think that these illegals are gonna choose the longest route possible? Will they fuck, they’ll continue to do the 25 mile from Calais to Dover or boat in across the channel. Anyhow the half dozen who might get through that let the jocks have them, I’d give them independence referendum 2 then they can rejoin the EU, kill 2 birds with one stone. Then we'll have a hard border with EU/Scotland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 Just now, MalcolmW said: Then we'll have a hard border with EU/Scotland. Re-Build Hadrian’s wall. My comments in last paragraph on previous message were tongue in cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 31, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 40 minutes ago, Casino said: And who is going to do these checks? You can keep throwing up obstacles all you want. I gave two examples of people who should know better than either of us, and they said it can be done. No doubt work to do, they didn't say it would be easy. Continued churlish, supercilious comments on here or in the house of commons won't wash. If you really want answers to those questions there'll be plenty of information available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: Re-Build Hadrian’s wall. My comments in last paragraph on previous message were tongue in cheek. Hadrian's Wall is not the border nowadays - it is in England. You only had one paragraph. It was the first and the last, the best and the worst (a bit like May's deal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 6 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: Hadrian's Wall is not the border nowadays - it is in England. You only had one paragraph. It was the first and the last, the best and the worst (a bit like May's deal). We better rebuild it further north then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter fatolive Posted January 31, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You can keep throwing up obstacles all you want. I gave two examples of people who should know better than either of us, and they said it can be done. No doubt work to do, they didn't say it would be easy. Continued churlish, supercilious comments on here or in the house of commons won't wash. If you really want answers to those questions there'll be plenty of information available. Like everything else in this debate, it depends where you read and who writes it, but there’s as many ‘experts’ saying why current technology won’t work as those that say it could work. even those that say technology and point of loading away from border checks can solve it, struggle with the question of how that will solve the more simple issues like local supermarket beer run that comes back over the border, cattle and livestock movement etc and the fact in order to have this technology there would need to be some monitoring and of course the physical presence of cameras and staff should an unregistered/un checked vehicle goes through. not saying there isn’t a solution in there, but each throws up its own problems and people keep saying “ technology” as if that should just be accepted without any exact details of how it will solve all the issues, not just scheduled import/ exports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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