miamiwhite Posted September 13, 2019 Author Share Posted September 13, 2019 On 06/09/2019 at 16:23, miamiwhite said: Thoughts on this ? I’ll just leave this here again for those who are hard of hearing and unable to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted September 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: I’ll just leave this here again for those who are hard of hearing and unable to read. He is absolutely correct and was derided by the vote leave campaigns (Boris, Gove, Farage, etc) as project fear and that we would leave with a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, kent_white said: We're a laughing stock. Cheers everyone! https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-49689123 The Turkish paper Sabah tickled me, calling Britain an unsuccessful state, Hilarious given the state of Turkey. Edited September 13, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: The Turkish paper Sabah tickled me, calling Britain a failed declining state, Hilarious given the state of Turkey. We are envied by many in the EU, as they want out as well, to be independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, boltondiver said: We are envied by many in the EU, as they want out as well, to be independent. Perhaps Poland, Hungary could veto an extension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: The Turkish paper Sabah tickled me, calling Britain an unsuccessful state, Hilarious given the state of Turkey. I agree. I don't pay any attention to what our newspapers say, so I'll be fucked if I'm paying attention to some foreign rags Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: We are envied by many in the EU, as they want out as well, to be independent. How many of them have voted for it thus far? (I'm not disagreeing, just if they want out, then why are they not leaving...... Or are they just waiting to see how it lands out for us?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Sweep said: How many of them have voted for it thus far? (I'm not disagreeing, just if they want out, then why are they not leaving...... Or are they just waiting to see how it lands out for us?) Makes sense. Hedging their bets. Oh hang on.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 13, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Ani said: Some. But maybe not as many as you might reckon I think a lot of people like me who voted Remain might still question how we got in this mess but realise than the only way forward is to get out. Hopefully more Brexiteers can see this and realise wanting the best deal possible and opposing no deal is different to wanting to stay in. From there people and the country can move forward. I reckon that's roughly the position of most moderates, possibly on both sides. It's unfortunate though, that a number are quite clear in their opposition to leaving. Would have been out ages ago. As has been commonly stated, removing the option of no deal hardly helps, especially when a weak deal, increases the likelihood of it not passing etc. It's a unique situation, and one that will only satisfy a proportion of folk whatever the outcome. For me, as the vote was only in or out, whichever way of leaving is ultimately adopted, I will fully support. Flaws with both? Very probably. A complete disaster? Certainly not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 15, 2019 Members Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 13/09/2019 at 22:23, Casino said: Why is NI still an issue I remember a BOOM FACT moment that stated checks at the border wouldn't be an issue under the GFA I'm treating that with the same disdain as technology is readily available You needn't tell us. You treat absolutely everything with disdain which isn't either pro EU or pro Asian. Captain fucking Obvious innit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 15, 2019 Members Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 14/09/2019 at 01:04, boltondiver said: We are envied by many in the EU, as they want out as well, to be independent. If the EU is so good, why are we seeing a vast increase of fuckers rushing to get out of the EU on often unseaworthy vessels on the English Channel? People vote with their feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 15, 2019 Members Share Posted September 15, 2019 On 14/09/2019 at 02:06, Sweep said: How many of them have voted for it thus far? (I'm not disagreeing, just if they want out, then why are they not leaving...... Or are they just waiting to see how it lands out for us?) Fair point there. They are waiting to see what a clusterfuck the EU side and pro EU sycophants make of Brexit it before deciding whether the time is right to get out. They may decide to wait for a more opportune moment. I strongly believe that Italy will be the next. This will be a north/south issue over there. South being out, north probably being remain. We shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, bolty58 said: If the EU is so good, why are we seeing a vast increase of fuckers rushing to get out of the EU on often unseaworthy vessels on the English Channel? Because we give them a lot of help, and other EU nations can't get rid of them quick enough. Edited September 15, 2019 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted September 15, 2019 Members Share Posted September 15, 2019 38 minutes ago, Sweep said: Because we give them a lot of help, and other EU nations can't get rid of them quick enough. So we're too fucking soft, correct? Many us have been saying this for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, bolty58 said: If the EU is so good, why are we seeing a vast increase of fuckers rushing to get out of the EU on often unseaworthy vessels on the English Channel? People vote with their feet. English language is a big pull to a foreign country as I'm sure you agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, bolty58 said: So we're too fucking soft, correct? Yes, absolutely. Nothing to do with the EU being good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, bolty58 said: So we're too fucking soft, correct? Many us have been saying this for years. We? Didn't realise the Aussies were in the EU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Lib "Dems" vote to revoke A50 if they got into power (unlikely) Weren't they the first to propose a referendum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Lib "Dems" vote to revoke A50 if they got into power (unlikely) Weren't they the first to propose a referendum? After the vote, their leader Jo Swinson, said: "We will do all we can to fight for our place in Europe, and to stop Brexit altogether." Didn't think it was possible for us to leave Europe. She's clearly a bit confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, boltondiver said: After the vote, their leader Jo Swinson, said: "We will do all we can to fight for our place in Europe, and to stop Brexit altogether." Didn't think it was possible for us to leave Europe. She's clearly a bit confused. Looks like they’ve learned nothing from Cleggy promising to scrap tuition fees, that came back to bite them, The Liberal Un-Democrats Edited September 15, 2019 by Moon boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Looks like they’ve learned nothing from Cleggy promising to scrap tuition fees, that came back to bite them, The Liberal Un-Democrats On the contrary, she is promising clear differentiation should they be the governing party in a coalition which is nothing like the tuition fees debacle where they were the junior partners in 2010 coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said: On the contrary, she is promising clear differentiation should they be the governing party in a coalition which is nothing like the tuition fees debacle where they were the junior partners in 2010 coalition. Fooled you then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Fooled you then? I'm not in the slightest bit fooled. They're just aligning behind a clear position which is exactly what the Brexit Party are doing. I don't expect you to understand the strategy so that's fine to leave it there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: I'm not in the slightest bit fooled. They're just aligning behind a clear position which is exactly what the Brexit Party are doing. I don't expect you to understand the strategy so that's fine to leave it there She changes the "strategy" regularly, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, boltondiver said: She changes the "strategy" regularly, though. Strategies are meant to have flex in them as the circumstances change otherwise you become flat-footed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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