Farrelli Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 47 minutes ago, TM Trotter said: Nobody in their right mind voted for a hard, No Deal exit. We were all promised by the liars running the Leave campaign, that this would be a walk in the park, that coming to a Free Trade Agreement would be 'one of the easiest in human history' (Liam Fox), that 'getting out of the EU can be quick and easy as the UK holds most of the cards' (John Redwood), that leaving would be 'like threading the eye of a needle... it is easy enough' (David Davis) I could quite happily accept the referendum result if it was backed with any modicum of an economic and/or social plan to deal with it, but nothing from government over the past three years has been anything more than piss and panic. The continent is laughing at us, the global superpowers are rubbing their hands together thinking about how easily they'll be able to bend us over once we're out on our own. BTW, I'm not spreading 'project fear', I'm just exhausted with the mountains of bullshit we have all been fed from the likes of Johnson, Rees-Mogg and Farage, all of whom are the most self-serving, arrogant c*nts in British politics. You might even say that the personal gains they stand to make from Brexit is an 'act of politicial bastardry' and is as 'anti-democratic as it gets'. Bravo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 50 minutes ago, TM Trotter said: Nobody in their right mind voted for a hard, No Deal exit. We were all promised by the liars running the Leave campaign, that this would be a walk in the park, that coming to a Free Trade Agreement would be 'one of the easiest in human history' (Liam Fox), that 'getting out of the EU can be quick and easy as the UK holds most of the cards' (John Redwood), that leaving would be 'like threading the eye of a needle... it is easy enough' (David Davis) I could quite happily accept the referendum result if it was backed with any modicum of an economic and/or social plan to deal with it, but nothing from government over the past three years has been anything more than piss and panic. The continent is laughing at us, the global superpowers are rubbing their hands together thinking about how easily they'll be able to bend us over once we're out on our own. BTW, I'm not spreading 'project fear', I'm just exhausted with the mountains of bullshit we have all been fed from the likes of Johnson, Rees-Mogg and Farage, all of whom are the most self-serving, arrogant c*nts in British politics. You might even say that the personal gains they stand to make from Brexit is an 'act of politicial bastardry' and is as 'anti-democratic as it gets'. There's talk of Johnson preparing to break the law, how democratic is that? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2019 TM Trotter= Fan5 brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: TM Trotter= Fan5 brother. Poor soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: There's talk of Johnson preparing to break the law, how democratic is that? 😂 Bad laws need breaking, especially anti democratic laws. Edited September 16, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Bad laws need breaking, especially anti democratic laws. That post pretty much sums up the state of the Leave campaign, one massive oxymoron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 52 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: There's talk of Johnson preparing to break the law, how democratic is that? 😂 He won’t break the (bad) law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 16, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 16, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Bad laws need breaking, especially anti democratic laws. Fucking hell fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 16, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 16, 2019 53 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: TM Trotter= Fan5 brother. you could answer his points with something other than we won, you lost, suck it up, its democracy if you are honest, he nails it with that post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said: That post pretty much sums up the state of the Leave campaign, one massive oxymoron. Rather unfair that comment. All to easy to tar everyone with the same brush. which is part of the reason there is a such a divide you advocate of democracy breaking snowflake 😘 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Casino said: you could answer his points with something other than we won, you lost, suck it up, its democracy if you are honest, he nails it with that post He has opinions His opinions are not facts I acknowledge that he has opinions, and respect them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 (edited) Jo Swinson Proposed an in or out of Europe (sic) vote in 2008. Perhaps it was the result she has a problem with. Edited September 16, 2019 by boltondiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 18 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Rather unfair that comment. All to easy to tar everyone with the same brush. which is part of the reason there is a such a divide you advocate of democracy breaking snowflake 😘 I know Mounts is a one off so let's hope Johnson doesn't take his advice😘 Will I see you on Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 16, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, boltondiver said: He has opinions His opinions are not facts I acknowledge that he has opinions, and respect them. his quotes? are they true dont you think they influenced leavers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Trotter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: TM Trotter= Fan5 brother. I'm also a remoaner, a lefty snowflake, and a communist anti-patriot who gives reach-arounds to ISIS members on Saturday nights Such is the total non-discourse we're left with following three years of political chaos. 27 minutes ago, boltondiver said: He has opinions His opinions are not facts I acknowledge that he has opinions, and respect them. I put down three quotes from leading names in the Leave campaign, made in 2016. We've all been sold a lie, no matter how much you or I or anyone else wanted/did not want to leave the EU. That is fact - three years ago, nobody (not even Farage) canvassed for this omnishambles. I tried very hard to avoid 'opinion' because I know the Pandora's box of talking about politics on general football forums, let alone with my fellow Wanderers. Believe me, I'm not here to play the WUM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 The quotes are true and his summary is spot on (TM Trotter that is). However, it is too uncomfortable for leavers to admit it. Read what David Cameron says about Boris, Farage and Gove (leaving the truth at home and praying on peoples's fears about immigration). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: That post pretty much sums up the state of the Leave campaign, one massive oxymoron. Talking of morons and what BD touched on the other night, but the Lib Dem’s on here shied away from........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 Libs Dems = full of shit, lying bastards and the most undemocratic Democratic Party ever. As you were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Farrelli said: The quotes are true and his summary is spot on (TM Trotter that is). However, it is too uncomfortable for leavers to admit it. Read what David Cameron says about Boris, Farage and Gove (leaving the truth at home and praying on peoples's fears about immigration). Oh dear..........it’s prey not pray. Unless that was a deliberate pun on the immigrants who pray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, TM Trotter said: I'm also a remoaner, a lefty snowflake, and a communist anti-patriot who gives reach-arounds to ISIS members on Saturday nights Such is the total non-discourse we're left with following three years of political chaos. I put down three quotes from leading names in the Leave campaign, made in 2016. We've all been sold a lie, no matter how much you or I or anyone else wanted/did not want to leave the EU. That is fact - three years ago, nobody (not even Farage) canvassed for this omnishambles. I tried very hard to avoid 'opinion' because I know the Pandora's box of talking about politics on general football forums, let alone with my fellow Wanderers. Believe me, I'm not here to play the WUM. I think you’re trying too hard to reinvent yourself after your previous name was torn to shreds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said: I know Mounts is a one off so let's hope Johnson doesn't take his advice😘 Will I see you on Friday? I shall be there on Friday I’m down for the Sunderland game and have extended it to cover the game Friday as well pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Casino said: you could answer his points with something other than we won, you lost, suck it up, its democracy if you are honest, he nails it with that post He does. Bang on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salford Trotter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 16 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I shall be there on Friday I’m down for the Sunderland game and have extended it to cover the game Friday as well pal Excellent mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TM Trotter Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: I think you’re trying too hard to reinvent yourself after your previous name was torn to shreds. I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I've only ever had one name on this forum. Long-time lurker, medium-term member, relatively new poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamiwhite Posted September 16, 2019 Author Share Posted September 16, 2019 1 minute ago, TM Trotter said: I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I've only ever had one name on this forum. Long-time lurker, medium-term member, relatively new poster. Ok then. From your post, please explain how the continent are laughing at us ? German economic experts are actually saying the opposite, use google and you’ll see the many interviews they’re giving. Hardly surprising as they’re entering recession with other on the continent teetering on the brink. The French aren’t exactly doing great are they with Macron in charge ? If they were, the continued yellow vests wouldn’t be happening would they ? Discontent now in Ireland at the weekend, again check YouTube etc for the marches of protest which the MSM don’t show coverage of......on top of those protests, their calls for their equivalent of Brexit have been ongoing for a while now. America, India etc will do business with us, they’ve all already said that. Please don’t call out unproven “facts” from 2016 with your echo chamber idiots cooing at every word you post on here.....instead,..let’s look at the proven facts from now..... Please point me to the direction of Germany doing brilliantly as we speak and mocking us....same with Italy, France, Spain, Holland, Belgium, Sweden, Norway amongst others....go on, fucking do it, I dare you....i think you’ll find, much to the dismay of your sheep on here, that you are being very selective in past and present . Thank you, cue the sheep...baaaaaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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