Politics

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said:

If TBP poke their noses in they will split the Leave vote so we shall see

You keep saying this, but it doesn't matter is there's a hung parliament, so long as an effective working majority is created that will vote through a deal.

Suppose the bp do get a number of seats, a no deal situation still seems highly unlikely to be voted for, so they'd reach an agreement with others to ensure a deal goes through.

[Farrelli]

29 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Oh dear.....how will this be defended

https://uk.reuters.com/article/us-eu-budget-auditors/billions-of-euros-of-eu-funds-misspent-last-year-auditors-idUKKBN1WM2B0

"The president of the court, Klaus-Heiner Lehne, said the irregularities detected were not a reason for big concern as they represented a small amount of the budget and were mostly caused by complex payment rules".

Well done to the EU for having such thorough auditing practice and transparent budgets

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

"The president of the court, Klaus-Heiner Lehne, said the irregularities detected were not a reason for big concern as they represented a small amount of the budget and were mostly caused by complex payment rules".

Well done to the EU for having such thorough auditing practice and transparent budgets

Aaaaahh, that’s ok then eh ? Haha......billions misspent and fools lap it up.....this is comedic value of the highest order

 

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

"The president of the court, Klaus-Heiner Lehne, said the irregularities detected were not a reason for big concern as they represented a small amount of the budget and were mostly caused by complex payment rules".

Well done to the EU for having such thorough auditing practice and transparent budgets

Be great if they publish the expenses which they’re now postponing......just like most of the accts which don’t get reported.......I wonder why that is ?

You are blinded mate by the EU.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Aaaaahh, that’s ok then eh ? Haha......billions misspent and fools lap it up.....this is comedic value of the highest order

 

They have a decent paper trail of how they waste/steal other people's money.

Limousines to take MEPs to the parliament from the station etc.

 

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

They have a decent paper trail of how they waste/steal other people's money.

Limousines to take MEPs to the parliament from the station etc.

 

I note how Farelli conveniently omitted the final paragraph of Lehne’s quote....not to mention several more quotes.....talk about cherry picking and flogging a dead horse.

[Salford Trotter]

16 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

You keep saying this, but it doesn't matter is there's a hung parliament, so long as an effective working majority is created that will vote through a deal.

Suppose the bp do get a number of seats, a no deal situation still seems highly unlikely to be voted for, so they'd reach an agreement with others to ensure a deal goes through.

You'll still have 5 parties with 5 different agendas pulling in 5 different directions. The only hope the Tories will have if they win back TBP vote, if they don't then its all up in the air 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Salford Trotter said:

You'll still have 5 parties with 5 different agendas pulling in 5 different directions. The only hope the Tories will have if they win back TBP vote, if they don't then its all up in the air 

Read the polls Pete and what % TBP have.

They certainly don’t support your view, but then again, you lot only take note of polls when they’re in your favour

 

[Farrelli]

9 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Be great if they publish the expenses which they’re now postponing......just like most of the accts which don’t get reported.......I wonder why that is ?

You are blinded mate by the EU.

I think it is quite clear you are obsessed. There is nothing in that report that worries me half as much as a right wing extremist like Cummings dictating how our country is being run.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, Salford Trotter said:

You'll still have 5 parties with 5 different agendas pulling in 5 different directions. The only hope the Tories will have if they win back TBP vote, if they don't then its all up in the air 

It's possible, but I can see labour possibly being slaughtered by the machine that is Cummings and they won't hold back on lib dems either.

If done correctly, they could marginalise BP by representing themselves as the only ones trying to fulfil the leave vote and with a deal. Farage I'm convinced would come to an accomodation as necessary.

[miamiwhite]

5 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I think it is quite clear you are obsessed. There is nothing in that report that worries me half as much as a right wing extremist like Cummings dictating how our country is being run.

Haha.

Obsessed......you’re obsessed with me pointing out pure facts which clearly highlight what a farce the EU is.

What would it take in your iconoclastic nature to see what the EU are truly like ?

You really are clueless fella.

Sample life outside the EU then come back to me in a decade. The EU will fold within a decade of us leaving.

Did you see the subtle clue from Tusk today re Brexit, when he said how damaging it would be not just to us but also Europe ? I wonder why.........

[Winchester White]

What is this damage folk are talking of now? I thought it was sunlit uplands post Brexit?

Anyway, I think we will have plenty of twists and turns yet before Halloween.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Haha.

Obsessed......you’re obsessed with me pointing out pure facts which clearly highlight what a farce the EU is.

What would it take in your iconoclastic nature to see what the EU are truly like ?

You really are clueless fella.

Sample life outside the EU then come back to me in a decade. The EU will fold within a decade of us leaving.

Did you see the subtle clue from Tusk today re Brexit, when he said how damaging it would be not just to us but also Europe ? I wonder why.........

No wonder he was so bitchy. He and others have played hardball for years since the vote. Constant sniping and criticism. Theresa May in fairness to her, didn't play, she tried to remain more 'ministerial', but it didn't work.

Now we've got someone prepared to give it back.

Unedifying, unpleasant etc etc. but not surprising.

[miamiwhite]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No wonder he was so bitchy. He and others have played hardball for years since the vote. Constant sniping and criticism. Theresa May in fairness to her, didn't play, she tried to remain more 'ministerial', but it didn't work.

Now we've got someone prepared to give it back.

Unedifying, unpleasant etc etc. but not surprising.

Very telling mate how the BBC run with this headline, yet the tweets on the link from Katya Adler show the opposite from Merkel ....

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49970267

[Moon boy]

46 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

I think it is quite clear you are obsessed. There is nothing in that report that worries me half as much as a right wing extremist like Cummings dictating how our country is being run.

Absolute bollocks,

Cummings has been employed by Boris &co to formulate a strategy to achieve what 17.5mill voted for, to leave the EU

At the moment the ‘Establishment ‘, MP’s, most of the press, the Judiciary, the BBC, The Lords, The CBI have ditched Democracy and are fighting dirty to stop Brexit, they may well have met their match in Cummings, if he outthinks the Remainers fair play to him.

Hes not dictating how the Country is being run

[birch-chorley]

25 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Absolute bollocks,

Cummings has been employed by Boris &co to formulate a strategy to achieve what 17.5mill voted for, to leave the EU

At the moment the ‘Establishment ‘, MP’s, most of the press, the Judiciary, the BBC, The Lords, The CBI have ditched Democracy and are fighting dirty to stop Brexit, they may well have met their match in Cummings, if he outthinks the Remainers fair play to him.

Hes not dictating how the Country is being run

17.5m didn’t vote to leave without a deal

Most expected / were told that a deal would be easily reached 

2 weeks was banded about on here as a reasonable time frame to sort it 

FML

[Cheese]

25 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

Absolute bollocks,

Cummings has been employed by Boris &co to formulate a strategy to achieve what 17.5mill voted for, to leave the EU

Yes. The same Cummings who admits openly that the Leave campaign only won because of the massive lies they told.

[Escobarp]

Just now, Cheese said:

Yes. The same Cummings who admits openly that the Leave campaign only won because of the massive lies they told.

Cummins is a strategist and whether you like it or not was brought in by Boris to formulate the plan. 

Is he a nice likeable guy? Not really. Is he effective at what he does? I think he may be but the jury is out and it depends what exactly he has been asked to do  

 

[birch-chorley]

No Deal is much further away from what 17.5m people voted for than what TM put on the table 

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

No Deal is much further away from what 17.5m people voted for than what TM put on the table 

It’s a default walk away position really. 

Accept it wasn’t what I voted for either but I certainly didn’t vote to stay. So if our wonderful politicians wish to exercise their own agendas and try and stop it altogether then this was and is the huge risk that comes with that. 

As I said a few pages back it is those who wish to stop any deal no matter what that are in my opinion to blame here and they out number the ardent leavers by some way. Therein lies the problem 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

No Deal is much further away from what 17.5m people voted for than what TM put on the table 

Very probably. But what if no-one will agree to anything else? 

It still remains the default position, and still fulfills the vote, whether that's the best way or not. The Benn act only covers the end of October bit and not the overall situation.

There's been more than a week of parliament and they've done jack shit else with regard to stopping a no deal permanently.

Obviously we don't know what will happen over the next couple of weeks, but something has to give one way or another by the end of the month.

[miamiwhite]

8 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

No Deal is much further away from what 17.5m people voted for than what TM put on the table 

Listen closely.

An in or out referendum.

No ifs, no buts.......no second referendum, no prolonged arguments.

Shows how cocky the remain were in their thinking.

As our PM clearly said, in or out.

 

 

[Moon boy]

14 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

17.5m didn’t vote to leave without a deal

Most expected / were told that a deal would be easily reached 

2 weeks was banded about on here as a reasonable time frame to sort it 

FML

You don’t speak for even 1 of those 17.5mill so that argument is bollocks

I voted to leave, if after 3 years of arguing both sides cannot find a deal then it has to be ‘no deal’ i.e. Leave

I think Boris’s deal will be agreed and win a majority in Parliament 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Moon boy said:

You don’t speak for even 1 of those 17.5mill so that argument is bollocks

I voted to leave, if after 3 years of arguing both sides cannot find a deal then it has to be ‘no deal’ i.e. Leave

I think Boris’s deal will be agreed and win a majority in Parliament 

I reckon a version of derivative of it will be agreed at the last second.

 

[birch-chorley]

I voted to remain 

However I’d have taken TM’s deal 6 months ago in order to honour the referendum and move on, I’d take it now 

No Deal is a complete load of bollocks

If you honestly think the majority voted for that then you need to give your head a good shake