Guest Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Farrelli said: We/us doesn't cover it though because the less well off will be disproportionately affected by brexit. Please provide proof (PS it doesn't exist, it's a guess about the future) It's a valid opnion though. One that I don't subscribe to, but valid nonetheless. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Ok. How much money do the EU have to start with? How much money does our government have without tax payers? It's a union of countries we signed up to and have had infinitely more benefits from than not. You are prepared to devolve all responsibility to London and I'm not. Quote
Jol_BWFC Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, boltondiver said: In any event, we'll be fine In your opinion. Quote
Casino Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 6 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: That wasn’t in regards to your point, it was in reference to Farrelli I thought it was a reply to mounts Who had replied to me Hey ho, never mind Quote
Farrelli Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 1 minute ago, boltondiver said: Please provide proof (PS it doesn't exist, it's a guess about the future) It's a valid opnion though. One that I don't subscribe to, but valid nonetheless. Of course not but it stands to reason that the loss in GDP (according to most forecasts) would affect those people with less to begin with. Quote
Guest Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: In your opinion. Absolutely. too right. Quote
Spider Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: In my game textiles, virtually everything is British standard, and in general the British standard is higher than EN standards. Not in the manufacturing game, which is what you were hanging your hat on. British companies will still find they’ll need an EN certified product to trade competitively on the global market. The EU can basically charge what they want to the UK after Brexit for this service. What EN numbers in particular are you saying aren’t as good as the equivalent British standard? Happy to do some research. Quote
Guest Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 Just now, Farrelli said: Of course not but it stands to reason that the loss in GDP (according to most forecasts) would affect those people with less to begin with. I'm sorry, that's a warped logic, based on something other than economics. Not that economics is a failsafe place right now Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 12, 2019 Author Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Casino said: I thought it was a reply to mounts Who had replied to me Hey ho, never mind I originally posted it further up the conservation to Farrelli, but was just prompting Mounts, so I see your point. Quote
miamiwhite Posted October 12, 2019 Author Posted October 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Of course not but it stands to reason that the loss in GDP (according to most forecasts) would affect those people with less to begin with. Look at the link I’ve posted twice re GDP. Rather disproves your point doesn’t it ? Quote
Guest Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Farrelli said: How much money does our government have without tax payers? It's a union of countries we signed up to and have had infinitely more benefits from than not. You are prepared to devolve all responsibility to London and I'm not. You've got it. They have no money. Quote
Guest Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Farrelli said: How much money does our government have without tax payers? It's a union of countries we signed up to and have had infinitely more benefits from than not. You are prepared to devolve all responsibility to London and I'm not. Very telling. You would rather cede power to a foreign, unelected, undemocratic, empire, than your own country. Quote
Boby Brno Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Spider said: Not in the manufacturing game, which is what you were hanging your hat on. British companies will still find they’ll need an EN certified product to trade competitively on the global market. The EU can basically charge what they want to the UK after Brexit for this service. What EN numbers in particular are you saying aren’t as good as the equivalent British standard? Happy to do some research. It’s been a while since it mattered to me but doesn’t ISO standards trump both EN and BS? Quote
Spider Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: It’s been a while since it mattered to me but doesn’t ISO standards trump both EN and BS? Not really. ISO is more procedural, EN is more technical. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 8 hours ago, boltondiver said: You've got it. They have no money. But look at the achievements they have made rather than just closing your mind. Quote
green genie Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 8 hours ago, boltondiver said: Very telling. You would rather cede power to a foreign, unelected, undemocratic, empire, than your own country. The EU recognised Cornwall as a seriously deprived area and gave multiple grants. London raped it of it's houses so Tarquin and Jemima can try and surf once a year. Stop tugging your forelock and see what is happening to your country. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, green genie said: The EU recognised Cornwall as a seriously deprived area and gave multiple grants. London raped it of it's houses so Tarquin and Jemima can try and surf once a year. Stop tugging your forelock and see what is happening to your country. He can't. Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, green genie said: The EU recognised Cornwall as a seriously deprived area and gave multiple grants. London raped it of it's houses so Tarquin and Jemima can try and surf once a year. Stop tugging your forelock and see what is happening to your country. More wasted money from the EU, how much are they wasting right across Europe, think it would have been better spent by our government and where we can have real accountability for the money spent. ornwall qualified for Objective OneEuropean funding in 1999. Prior to this the Government had, for statistical purposes, incorporated it with Devon, under the Devonwall concept. In 1998 Cornwall was recognised by the UK Government as having "distinct cultural and historical factors reflecting a Celtic background",[11] thus allowing it to be separated in a regional and economic sense from Devon. Due to Cornwall producing less than 75% of the average European GDP, £350 million of Objective One funding was received between 2000 and 2006. The Combined Universities Campus at Tremough was one result of this funding. Objective One funding has been used in supporting and developing a largely indigenous food and farming industry which is now worth nearly two billion pounds a year.[citation needed] Other sectors have also benefited, including the 'creative industries', which have benefited from publicity and investment.[citation needed] Tourism also gained from the funding, and broadband provision was made a priority. There have been some complaints of fund mismanagement, for example, cases such as the £2 million funding towards the failed South West Film Studios at St Agnes.[12] In 2005, Cornwall was estimated to have a GDP of 70% of the European average and Cornwall qualified once again for Objective One.[13] This 'tranche' was known as Convergence funding, and was due to last between the beginning of 2008 and 2013, and be worth £445 million.[citation needed]Priorities for the 2008–13 tranche have an emphasis on information and communication technologies, competitiveness, enterprise and a providing a skilled workforce.[citation needed] One of the first projects, a £3.5 million factory was built by the South West Regional Development Agency (SWRDA) at St Columb Major with £1.7 million of Objective One funding in January 2002. It was occupied by the American-owned book, video and CD distribution company Borders Books, creating 90 jobs, and became the company's national distribution centre. In March 2008 it was announced that the depot was to close.[14] Part of Crown Mines, Botallack The Gaia Energy Centre at Delabole, opened in 2001 as a tourist attraction (on the site of Britain's first commercial windfarm). It cost £5m and was expected to attract 150,000 visitors a year. It closed after three years, having only welcomed one tenth of the expected visitor numbers. The majority of the funding for the centre came from Europe, with £300,000 grants from Objective One and SWDRA, the South West Regional Development Agency.[15] According to the European Commission, the Gross Domestic Deposit Product (GDP) of Cornwall and the Scillies was 64% of the European average in 2011, the latest available figures.[16] A report in 2015 found European Union funding failed to create an expected 10,000 new jobs in Cornwall, creating only 3,557 jobs.[17] In 2017 a report found that Tees Valley and Durham, South Yorkshire, and West Wales and the Valleys are all more deserving of EU money than Cornwall.[18] Edited October 13, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote
green genie Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 It part funded the A30 dualling on Goss Moor which has brought immeasurable benefit to the peninsula. Takes an hour to get to Exeter (40 miles) on the train via a single rail line which gets shut by a good storm (where's that global warming thread) while the wankers are spending billions taking 10 mins off time from London to Birmingham. Don't kid yourselves it will get any further North than that. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, green genie said: It part funded the A30 dualling on Goss Moor which has brought immeasurable benefit to the peninsula. Takes an hour to get to Exeter (40 miles) on the train via a single rail line which gets shut by a good storm (where's that global warming thread) while the wankers are spending billions taking 10 mins off time from London to Birmingham. Don't kid yourselves it will get any further North than that. Absolutely spot on. The heads of the valley road in S Wales has been transformed by the EU investment. Mounts would prefer Chris Grayling to spend it on arranging freight with a shipping company that have no ships (good use of 38million)😂 Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, green genie said: It part funded the A30 dualling on Goss Moor which has brought immeasurable benefit to the peninsula. Takes an hour to get to Exeter (40 miles) on the train via a single rail line which gets shut by a good storm (where's that global warming thread) while the wankers are spending billions taking 10 mins off time from London to Birmingham. Don't kid yourselves it will get any further North than that. A 271 million pound project mainly paid for by the highways agency, with EU money of 20 million, at 38 p in the pound I make it we gave them about 65 million for the 20 million. It’s utter madness. Edited October 13, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote
Mounts Kipper Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Absolutely spot on. The heads of the valley road in S Wales has been transformed by the EU investment. Mounts would prefer Chris Grayling to spend it on arranging freight with a shipping company that have no ships (good use of 38million)😂 It was 13.8 million and the contract was backed by an Irish company that had ships and when they pulled out the contact was cancelled. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: It was 13.8 million and the contract was backed by an Irish company that had ships and when they pulled out the contact was cancelled. Wrong, they had to pay compensation costing a total 38 million. Quote
Farrelli Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Wrong, they had to pay compensation costing a total 38 million. 33 million actually. Apologies for adding 5m. Still I'm sure you are pleased with this public use of our money and nothing (zero) in return. Tip of the iceberg with that cretin as well. Quote
Boby Brno Posted October 13, 2019 Posted October 13, 2019 10 hours ago, Spider said: Not really. ISO is more procedural, EN is more technical. It’s been 20 years but when I was buying ductile iron castings from the Czechs for both us in Bolton and our sister company in America we used these technical standards. We could also use American ANSI standards or German DIN. ISO 1083 (2004) – Current Standard BS EN 1563 (1997) – Current Standard BS 2789 (1985) – Replaced by BS EN 1563 (1997) Quote
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