Politics

[Cheese]

7 hours ago, gonzo said:

 

Arguing AGAINST something he lobbied for, voted for, and won. On his own twitter feed. It's unreal that the general public still have confindence in this lot. We really do get what we deserve.

Edited February 4, 2021 by Cheese

[gonzo]

 

[Spider]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

Winners and losers. As the visionaries predicted.

Winners = People who voted leave

Losers = People who deal with the EU.

It is what it is. #FuckTheFish

[Escobarp]

29 minutes ago, Spider said:

Winners and losers. As the visionaries predicted.

Winners = People who voted leave

Losers = People who deal with the EU.

It is what it is. #FuckTheFish

I deal with the EU. I’m just fine post brexit and don’t consider myself a loser. Thanks 

 

sweeping generalizations don’t work in any walk of life really. 

Edited February 4, 2021 by Escobarp

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I deal with the EU. I’m just fine post brexit and don’t consider myself a loser. Thanks 

 

sweeping generalizations don’t work in any walk of life really. 

Is "winners and losers" a sweeping generlization?

Folk around here love a sweeping generalization to prove a point.

Specific examples are briskly shut down as "unlucky"

[Escobarp]

16 minutes ago, Spider said:

Is "winners and losers" a sweeping generlization?

Folk around here love a sweeping generalization to prove a point.

Specific examples are briskly shut down as "unlucky"

Stating

losers = people who deal with the EU is a sweeping generalization as well as being factually incorrect but let’s not split hairs about a wee lie between friends 

 

[Ani]

Generalisation please gentlemen  we did not fight wars to adopt the spelling mistakes of some vanquished nation.

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

Generalisation please gentlemen  we did not fight wars to adopt the spelling mistakes of some vanquished nation.

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[Duck Egg]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

 

This purification thing.  Does it not work both ways? Are the EU hitting the same obstacles exporting their shellfish to us?  This would usually form a basis for negotiations but I'm sure I read that the UK hadn't put the same blocks in place?

[Escobarp]

2 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

This purification thing.  Does it not work both ways? Are the EU hitting the same obstacles exporting their shellfish to us?  This would usually form a basis for negotiations but I'm sure I read that the UK hadn't put the same blocks in place?

We could go tit for tat correct. But we aren’t and it would appear we are just trying to make the agreement work?
 

But the EU were heralded by many. 

[Sweep]

14 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

This purification thing.  Does it not work both ways? Are the EU hitting the same obstacles exporting their shellfish to us?  

Possibly, and maybe they're losing out on some business, and I'm not really that fussed, as I'd rather we just fucked all the fishermen off and sunk their boats and then leased our waters back to the EU....

 

However, I'd have thought that we export a shit load more shellfish than we import - so it affects us far, far more

[Duck Egg]

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

 

However, I'd have thought that we export a shit load more shellfish than we import - so it affects us far, far more

Aye, I did wonder if that was the case.  Certainly, I expect a trade war is the last thing we want, yet the EU cant be seen to be too flexible, in case it encourages other nations to think about opting out too.

[Sweep]

7 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

Aye, I did wonder if that was the case.  Certainly, I expect a trade war is the last thing we want, yet the EU cant be seen to be too flexible, in case it encourages other nations to think about opting out too.

I think that's exactly it - if I was them, I'd be making everything as awkward as possible, it'll stop others thinking of doing the same. Is it the right thing to so, of course not, but it's all about self preservation. If we'd voted to stay in, and say France voted to leave, we'd be saying "fuck them, screw them into the floor" - it's just the way of business, and we can spout bollocks about blue passports and sovereignty all we want, this is pretty much just a large drawn out business contract at the end of the day.

I'm sure it'll sort itself out in the next 5-10 years, then things will be OK< we just have this bumpy few years to deal with. As mentioned by others, some will prosper, and some will fail. Those who fail, like in any business, it's just tough shit really

[Spider]

Those fish botherers really need to pipe down and accept they are losers. Just accept it, lads, you’re spoiling the win

 

Edited February 4, 2021 by Spider

[Sweep]

@Spideryou might like this....

We have a customer making a certain product (sadly, I can't tell you what) but it's very "copper heavy" indeed - it's such a large part of their product, they find it's usually easier to bring it in themselves and then free issue to the fabricators, as it helps them control the costs.

Anyway, we ship them a bit of product as well. They've just pushed back their orders for February, into March, as they're on complete line stop, due to lack of copper sheeting. Anyway, when he was telling me that he needed to reschedule his orders, I jokingly said that he should have planned ahead better and placed forward orders. He said he was sick of imbeciles (what a great word) suggesting that it was even an option for him 

 

Anyway, he reckons his usually comes from Poland or Spain.........I didn't know the Spanish did copper, and everything has ground to a halt as the factories he dealt with basically cancelled his orders and shipped into other EU countries, as it's too much hassle trying to get product to the UK. He's most perplexed, he's sourced product, but he's having to airfreight it in from somewhere in South America (I think) which has certainly driven the price up for him by a factor of 4

[Spider]

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

@Spideryou might like this....

We have a customer making a certain product (sadly, I can't tell you what) but it's very "copper heavy" indeed - it's such a large part of their product, they find it's usually easier to bring it in themselves and then free issue to the fabricators, as it helps them control the costs.

Anyway, we ship them a bit of product as well. They've just pushed back their orders for February, into March, as they're on complete line stop, due to lack of copper sheeting. Anyway, when he was telling me that he needed to reschedule his orders, I jokingly said that he should have planned ahead better and placed forward orders. He said he was sick of imbeciles (what a great word) suggesting that it was even an option for him 

 

Anyway, he reckons his usually comes from Poland or Spain.........I didn't know the Spanish did copper, and everything has ground to a halt as the factories he dealt with basically cancelled his orders and shipped into other EU countries, as it's too much hassle trying to get product to the UK. He's most perplexed, he's sourced product, but he's having to airfreight it in from somewhere in South America (I think) which has certainly driven the price up for him by a factor of 4

He’s just one of the losers.

Tell him to just look at all the winners and he’ll soon feel much better.

I can’t locate any winners personally but I reckon the Magnificent , erm, 5 can link him to loads of them. (Tip: not fish people)

Our game is in a right mess just now but the mortgage people will understand when I point out the winners.

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Spider said:

He’s just one of the losers.

Tell him to just look at all the winners and he’ll soon feel much better.

I can’t locate any winners personally but I reckon the Magnificent , erm, 5 can link him to loads of them. (Tip: not fish people)

Our game is in a right mess just now but the mortgage people will understand when I point out the winners.

Ultimately, he's said they'll only have no production for a few weeks, but the price will be passed down to the end user......as it's ultimately "green technology" based, there is something amusingly splendid in the fact that a few hundred kilos of copper are now flying half way round the world to help us become more green 🙂 ..........sadly the customers are going to be paying a lot more for it in the short to medium term.

They're, as an aside, currently looking to move all their manufacturing across to The Netherlands, who are offering huge incentives at the minute (free factories and low business rates etc)  -  the good thing is, if he moves, then he still has to buy my stuff, he's no choice in that a the minute so I won't miss out

[miamiwhite]

52 minutes ago, Spider said:

He’s just one of the losers.

Tell him to just look at all the winners and he’ll soon feel much better.

I can’t locate any winners personally but I reckon the Magnificent , erm, 5 can link him to loads of them. (Tip: not fish people)

Our game is in a right mess just now but the mortgage people will understand when I point out the winners.

Calm down sweetie 😘 

 

https://www.mtdmfg.com/news/cadburys-moves-production-of-its-dairy-milk-bars-from-europe-to-the-uk/

[miamiwhite]

53 minutes ago, Spider said:

He’s just one of the losers.

Tell him to just look at all the winners and he’ll soon feel much better.

I can’t locate any winners personally but I reckon the Magnificent , erm, 5 can link him to loads of them. (Tip: not fish people)

Our game is in a right mess just now but the mortgage people will understand when I point out the winners.

You'll end up committing Hari Kari if I carry on, my little swivel eyed friend 😉 💣 

 

 

[miamiwhite]

And for a hat trick of BOOOOOOOMS for the Doom & Gloom flaxon arachnid 

Plenty of jobs being created, look forward son, please don't leave in the past.

 

 

[Sweep]

You do realise that by posting these things, it gives the "other side" a reason to then also post about every single job lost.....

Ultimately, do you think we'll end up with a stronger manufacturing base that contributes more to our GDP and employs millions more? - Personally, I suspect that losses and additions will probably nett off against each other, give or take a few percent each way

 

So far, the one's you've posted have been good news..............apart from the TVR one, which will never happen and will probably end up costing the UK tax payer a small fortune 😏

[miamiwhite]

Unbelievable Jeff.......being asked to step up to the plate by D&G, a hat trick was delivered quicker than Robbie Fowler's, sending the home fans into raptures and leaving the foreign opposition like this 😷😿🙈🙊🙉👇

 

 

[miamiwhite]

1 minute ago, Sweep said:

You do realise that by posting these things, it gives the "other side" a reason to then also post about every single job lost.....

Ultimately, do you think we'll end up with a stronger manufacturing base that contributes more to our GDP and employs millions more? - Personally, I suspect that losses and additions will probably nett off against each other, give or take a few percent each way

 

So far, the one's you've posted have been good news..............apart from the TVR one, which will never happen and will probably end up costing the UK tax payer a small fortune 😏

Haha.....the whining twat asked for good news....so I delivered 

The Postman x

[Sweep]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

Haha.....the whining twat asked for good news....so I delivered 

The Postman x

He'll be along to rip you a new one soon, like he does everyday. 🙂

 

The Farrelli will come in and finish you off 🥊

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

You do realise that by posting these things, it gives the "other side" a reason to then also post about every single job lost.....

Ultimately, do you think we'll end up with a stronger manufacturing base that contributes more to our GDP and employs millions more? - Personally, I suspect that losses and additions will probably nett off against each other, give or take a few percent each way

 

So far, the one's you've posted have been good news..............apart from the TVR one, which will never happen and will probably end up costing the UK tax payer a small fortune 😏

Things like the one below....we were told these things would never happen after Brexit, but they are happening daily