Politics

[wakey]

5 hours ago, tomski said:

Show some compassion @wakey

I do try 🙂

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Politics is easy in opposition

 

[Farrelli]

That was before they found out about the 20 billion black hole

[Casino]

26 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

That was before they found out about the 20 billion black hole

I like darren jones

But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now

I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus

[ZiggyStardust]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

I like darren jones

But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now

I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus

Spot on.

In the same way that the Tories will now criticise Labour, for doing exactly what the Tories did.

If its a poor choice now, it was a poor choice then.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Casino said:

I like darren jones

But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now

I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus

Maybe but they still have a lot of in year spend to claw back…and a budget coming up….

 

Yougov polling yesterday suggests the public supports the means test on WFA. Not by huge margins and obviously not over 65’s but broadly there is support. I think they would say it’s a bad choice out of a set of bad choices.

[tomski]

8 hours ago, Casino said:

I like darren jones

But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now

I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus

I’m sure it will come.

[Casino]

We could also reverse the ridiculous unaffordable NI cut

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Convicted of manslaughter

Sentenced to a ludicrously low two years and eight month

Released after five months due to prison being too full

I'm sure he'll have learned his lesson

[tomski]

That’s not good 

[Casino]

14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Convicted of manslaughter

Sentenced to a ludicrously low two years and eight month

Released after five months due to prison being too full

I'm sure he'll have learned his lesson

Gang fight, victim carrying a baseball bat, the scrote didnt kill him

Theres no innocents here

Ive read hes not a british national, so release him and deport him

[Traf]

5 hours ago, Casino said:

Ive read hes not a british national, so release him and deport him

Yep, works for me.

In fact get all those non-nationals out of the judicial system and deport them, free up the space for our own criminals.

But still build more prisons ASAP.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

5 hours ago, Casino said:

Gang fight, victim carrying a baseball bat, the scrote didnt kill him

Theres no innocents here

Ive read hes not a british national, so release him and deport him

I think it's more about the message such lenient punishment sends out

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

31 minutes ago, Traf said:

Yep, works for me.

In fact get all those non-nationals out of the judicial system and deport them, free up the space for our own criminals.

But still build more prisons ASAP.

We'd find it very difficult to deport them if there's a risk they might come to harm in their own countries, or if the have children / a partner here and deporting them would infringe upon their "right to a family life"

[Traf]

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

We'd find it very difficult to deport them if there's a risk they might come to harm in their own countries, or if the have children / a partner here and deporting them would infringe upon their "right to a family life"

Indeed, but the terms and conditions of being granted refuge/asylum should include an instant return to your homeland if you are convicted of a criminal offence.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, Traf said:

Indeed, but the terms and conditions of being granted refuge/asylum should include an instant return to your homeland if you are convicted of a criminal offence.

They should, but that'd be in breach of Articles 3 and 8 of the ECHR so is unfortunately a non-starter

And also Section 4 of the Human Rights Act

[only1swanny]

Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Just now, only1swanny said:

Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here?

Yes

[tomski]

6 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here?

I think the preferred option is send murderers back home and our homegrown murderers stay where they did the crime.

[boltonboris]

11 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here?

After they have served their sentence, then yes, I do think they should be deported

[Sweep]

10 minutes ago, boltonboris said:

After they have served their sentence, then yes, I do think they should be deported

Agree with this. Serve the time in the place the offence was committed, and then send back from where they came once released

Edited August 7, 2024 by Sweep

[frank_spencer]

Anyone who's here as a immigrant or refugee who's convicted of a violent crime/sexual offences should be on the the first plane/boat/trebuchet back to their home country once they've served their time.

 

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, frank_spencer said:

Anyone who's here as a immigrant or refugee who's convicted of a violent crime/sexual offences should be on the the first plane/boat/trebuchet back to their home country once they've served their time.

 

I am liking this constructive suggestion Frank.

[Traf]

Trebuchet?
Well done, a WW first usage.

[frank_spencer]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

I am liking this constructive suggestion Frank.

Sex pests and kiddy fiddlers are returned to their home country via the siege weapon of the victim's or their family's choice.

Edited August 7, 2024 by frank_spencer