23 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Bleeding kids. 😁

I know - exhausting.

4 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

interesting report on the EU. Surprise surprise Bureacracy and low growth… 2 problems that go hand in hand.. the penny beginning to drop. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gq1e7k2j8o
 

Astounded. Who would have thought?

Edited September 9, 20241 yr by bolty58

1 hour ago, royal white said:

😂😂

 

 

First class response. Probably inspired by cities near the Mexican border sending illegals to Washington and/or senior Democrats residences. Get rid of buddy pests.

8 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

interesting report on the EU. Surprise surprise Bureacracy and low growth… 2 problems that go hand in hand.. the penny beginning to drop. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gq1e7k2j8o
 

Are we doing anything differently? Just from reading it, I suspect the same challenges reside here as v China and US.

Good news if we are breaking the mould etc. 

4 hours ago, tomski said:

Are we doing anything differently? Just from reading it, I suspect the same challenges reside here as v China and US.

Good news if we are breaking the mould etc. 

We left partly because of the low growth and red tape, whether we have maximised the opportunities is another question, however we have the freedom to do just that and that’s the main thing.  

10 hours ago, royal white said:

😂😂

 

 

It’ll make the headlines but in practice, they’ll probably be stopped at the first border they try to cross. Certainly Austria and Germany if they get that far because of the temporary closing of the Schengen borders because of…Irregular Migration. 

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We left partly because of the low growth and red tape, whether we have maximised the opportunities is another question, however we have the freedom to do just that and that’s the main thing.  

I'm not sure we have, thus far

4 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm not sure we have, thus far

Me neither… but the opportunity still exists and it’s up to our government to get on with it. 

3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We left partly because of the low growth and red tape, whether we have maximised the opportunities is another question, however we have the freedom to do just that and that’s the main thing.  

Thought we left to take back control ? Not sure I remember the 'low growth' posters ?? 😂😂👍

Red tape?

Its worse now, you lunatic

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Red tape?

Its worse now, you lunatic

Not with other countries it isn’t. 

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-red-tape-freedom-uk-minister-andrea-leadsom/

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not with other countries it isn’t. 

The countries that aren't worth bothering with? 

58 minutes ago, Ani said:

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-red-tape-freedom-uk-minister-andrea-leadsom/

😂

And estimates by the U.K. Trade Policy Observatory — based on government figures — suggest the economic hit from leaving the EU single market is as much as 178 times larger than the likely gains from signing post-Brexit free trade agreements.

Edited September 10, 20241 yr by Cheese

3 hours ago, Ani said:

Thought we left to take back control ? Not sure I remember the 'low growth' posters ?? 😂😂👍

We have taken back control… shame the EU didn’t realise earlier that red tape and bureaucracy do not help trade and lead to lower growth. What started as a trading bloc to help encourage and Increase trade and growth has ended up doing the opposite. 

Edited September 10, 20241 yr by Mounts Kipper

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We have taken back control… shame the EU didn’t realise earlier that red tape and bureaucracy do not help trade and lead to lower growth. What started as a trading bloc to help encourage and Increase trade and growth has ended up doing the opposite. 

It only "does the opposite" if you're not in it, you moonman.

11 minutes ago, Cheese said:

It only "does the opposite" if you're not in it, you moonman.

+80% of world trade is outside the EU. Hence the slow growth. 

Edited September 10, 20241 yr by Mounts Kipper

7 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

+80% of world trade is outside the EU. Hence the slow growth. 

Our biggest trade partner (by a long way) is the EU...

5 hours ago, Cheese said:

😂

And estimates by the U.K. Trade Policy Observatory — based on government figures — suggest the economic hit from leaving the EU single market is as much as 178 times larger than the likely gains from signing post-Brexit free trade agreements.

But at least it’s our decision to be 178 times worse off in benefit. No bureaucratic  red tape bollocks 

Edited September 10, 20241 yr by tomski

1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

+80% of world trade is outside the EU. Hence the slow growth. 

Not for us it is isn't. Never had been or will be.

We decided to leave the biggest trading bloc on planet earth and wrap that much red tape around our poxy little island we might sink.

6 hours ago, gonzo said:

Not for us it is isn't. Never had been or will be.

We decided to leave the biggest trading bloc on planet earth and wrap that much red tape around our poxy little island we might sink.

Can't believe anyone can still offer support for the bungling bureaucracy. Trust in the result.

Bent as fuck bureaucrats in Brussels can continue to feather their own nests on some other fuckers back.

17 hours ago, gonzo said:

Not for us it is isn't. Never had been or will be.

We decided to leave the biggest trading bloc on planet earth and wrap that much red tape around our poxy little island we might sink.

So why are we not struggling economically in comparison to them?

There are other options out there.

If the EU had remained simply as a trading bloc, the issue would never have arisen. 

Far more to it than purely trade.

If we weren't homing thousands of folk that shouldn't be here, then tax payers money could be better used elsewhere, or even left in the public's pockets.

That's down to soft arse political parties.

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

So why are we not struggling economically in comparison to them?

There are other options out there.

If the EU had remained simply as a trading bloc, the issue would never have arisen. 

Far more to it than purely trade.

If we weren't homing thousands of folk that shouldn't be here, then tax payers money could be better used elsewhere, or even left in the public's pockets.

That's down to soft arse political parties.

We were talking about red tape and trade.

That tangent belongs somewhere else in this illustrious thread or on the letters pages in the express.

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

We were talking about red tape and trade.

That tangent belongs somewhere else in this illustrious thread or on the letters pages in the express.

There is no red tape

There is look 

Germany is in a mess

23 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not with other countries it isn’t. 

😅 Most of the deals done by the Tories were the same as what we had as an EU member.  Some new ones have given free trade benefits to countries such as Australia at the expense of our own farming industry.  Our best way forward is to remove some of the barriers we imposed on our selves with our nearest and most important trading partnership, which is the EU.