Politics

[bolty58]

25 minutes ago, Sweep said:

To be fair, he's generally right on a lot of stuff, just not politics, as the recent track record shows

Have to assume Binary Billy was on about me.

He needs to distinguish between 'right' and 'correct'. Fuck me, another binary choice. What was I thinking!?

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Sweep said:

By a mile, and that includes Truss. I reckon @bolty58would have him back tomorrow though

Been contemplating this further whilst educating a couple of the grandsons with an orrery.

Dangling on a zip wire in Victoria Park? Smashing polystyrene bricks down with a JCB? Carrying out effective rugby tackling?

Yep, I'd have him back tomorrow. Tremendous entertainment.

Love an English eccentric I do. Probably why I entertain the likes of you.

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Why was it a car crash? It was a perfectly normal press conference with a fidgety bloke behind her. Quite amusing but there was nothing she said that was 'car crash' at all.

You can watch it here, all perfectly reasonable statements of fact about the previous lack of investment in transport infrastructure and what the proposals are for new investment.

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/rachel-reeves-reaction-video-transport-b2763505.html

You really need to get some new material if you carrying on this tedious looking for grains of embrassment in your bete noire. 

Saw it live thanks. You’re probably aware by now that what she announced was this.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/city-region-sustainable-transport-settlements-2/network-north-crsts2-indicative-allocations-4-october-2023
 

She put it on hold, ripped the blue badge off it, stuck a red one on and then presented it as a Labour initiative. They even fooled me yesterday morning. Only briefly though.

As for car crash. Just another opinion.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rachel-reeves-made-a-big-speech-but-the-bored-workers-behind-her-stole-the-show_uk_68400bc9e4b0cc376200e386

[bolty58]

35 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Saw it live thanks. You’re probably aware by now that what she announced was this.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/city-region-sustainable-transport-settlements-2/network-north-crsts2-indicative-allocations-4-october-2023
 

She put it on hold, ripped the blue badge off it, stuck a red one on and then presented it as a Labour initiative. They even fooled me yesterday morning. Only briefly though.

As for car crash. Just another opinion.

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/rachel-reeves-made-a-big-speech-but-the-bored-workers-behind-her-stole-the-show_uk_68400bc9e4b0cc376200e386

You wouldn't expect a Labour apparatchik to do anything other than defend her would you?

The climb down on the winter fuel payments has been epic. The U turn of all U turns. Hopefully the electorate will see right through this and remember what the intention was. Only the emergence of Reform has prompted this scramble to try to hold 'red wall' votes. Otherwise it would be "Fuck you, oldies, Go fuckin' freeze". Could be Casino's battle cry that could.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

You seem to be hoping so.

You seem to be wanting him to be hoping so.

There was nothing in his post that fits your assertion. 

As it is; observation and experience of recent years, suggests the French can't be relied upon to do what they're being paid to do.

Indeed they've been doing the opposite, in escorting dinghies away from their shores.

If that changes, great, but don't hold your breath. 

[Sweep]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

You wouldn't expect a Labour apparatchik to do anything other than defend her would you?

The climb down on the winter fuel payments has been epic. The U turn of all U turns. Hopefully the electorate will see right through this and remember what the intention was. Only the emergence of Reform has prompted this scramble to try to hold 'red wall' votes. Otherwise it would be "Fuck you, oldies, Go fuckin' freeze". Could be Casino's battle cry that could.

Do you not applaud the fact they've done a u-turn, surely a good thing isn't it? 

Better to admit they've done something wrong, and then fix it, rather than just blindly carry on with the policy

[royal white]

3 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Do you not applaud the fact they've done a u-turn, surely a good thing isn't it? 

Better to admit they've done something wrong, and then fix it, rather than just blindly carry on with the policy

U turns were definitely not viewed that way on here when it was the tories doing them.

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Do you not applaud the fact they've done a u-turn, surely a good thing isn't it? 

Better to admit they've done something wrong, and then fix it, rather than just blindly carry on with the policy

A "U-turn" would be reinstating the previous system which gave it to every pensioner regardless of wealth - which they're not doing. They're just tweaking the eligibility so more pensioners get it.

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

U turns were definitely not viewed that way on here when it was the tories doing them.

I think it was mostly the lies, corruption, waste and ineptitude that topped our list.

[deeane Koontz]

Nowt wrong with a U-Turn.

However, it's concerning when you're making these stupid decisions in the first place.

 

[Spider]

1 hour ago, royal white said:

U turns were definitely not viewed that way on here when it was the tories doing them.

No problem with U-turns. It’s healthy to listen.

The Tory issues were all down to them being a corrupt, useless shower of shit

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Nowt wrong with a U-Turn.

However, it's concerning when you're making these stupid decisions in the first place.

What's 'stupid' is giving millions of pensioners £300 every winter when they don't need it. They just narrowed the eligibility criteria too much, so they're widening it a bit.

[royal white]

So to be clear, u turns are good now. Got it…..I think 

[gonzo]

10 minutes ago, royal white said:

So to be clear, u turns are good now. Got it…..I think 

Or altering policies to suit.

Hardly a U-turn is it.

[royal white]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Or altering policies to suit.

Hardly a U-turn is it.

Or don’t introduce ridiculous policies in the first place? 

[DazBob]

13 minutes ago, royal white said:

So to be clear, u turns are good now. Got it…..I think 

It's really not that complicated.

What is bad is to make a bad decision and stick with it.

What should be commended is to make a bad decision and then to see that it was bad and to do something about it.

[Farrelli]

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Or don’t introduce ridiculous policies in the first place? 

Ha 🤣

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, DazBob said:

It's really not that complicated.

What is bad is to make a bad decision and stick with it.

What should be commended is to make a bad decision and then to see that it was bad and to do something about it.

The 'bad decision' was introducing a universal WFA in the first place. It should always have been means tested. The fact it exists at all is a disgrace when you look at the profits Energy providers make.

[gonzo]

7 minutes ago, royal white said:

Or don’t introduce ridiculous policies in the first place? 

It wasn't really that ridiculous. It just needed widening slightly.

 

[DazBob]

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Yep, I'd have him back tomorrow. Tremendous entertainment.

Of course you would, given what happens here has absolutely no impact on your life.

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

It wasn't really that ridiculous. It just needed widening slightly.

 

Really? Have a look at what’s been one of labours  major fuck ups so far, have a look at how many MPs have spoken out against it. Have a look how many are leaving. Quite a reaction for something that’s not ridiculous. 

[Spider]

They’ve given out more free school meals today.

Lets see that one spin into a negative.

[Traf]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

You wouldn't expect a Labour apparatchik to do anything other than defend her would you?

The climb down on the winter fuel payments has been epic. The U turn of all U turns. Hopefully the electorate will see right through this and remember what the intention was. Only the emergence of Reform has prompted this scramble to try to hold 'red wall' votes. Otherwise it would be "Fuck you, oldies, Go fuckin' freeze". Could be Casino's battle cry that could.

Let the bodies pile up.

Was it Starmer or Johnson who said that?

 

[royal white]

14 minutes ago, Spider said:

They’ve given out more free school meals today.

Lets see that one spin into a negative.

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/jun/05/free-school-meal-expansion-england-initially-benefit-fewer-children-than-claimed-ifs-says
 

😉

This also means that today’s announcement will not see anything like 100,000 children lifted out of poverty next year.”

[Farrelli]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cql2pzr5qlqo
 

I bet Runcorn are pleased with their new MP fighting for the big social issues that will help improve their lives 🤪