radcliffe white Posted September 25, 2017 Author Posted September 25, 2017 So you think every player in the team is Championship standard and no one is struggling ? I am struggling for player who is not struggling if I am honest. no I'm not saying that it's how you get the best out of them just like millwall she'd Utd are doing We jumped out of the traps Saturday and was unlucky not to lead but concede and heads just go, second half Parkinson should have had that team fired up but total opposite Quote
Escobarp Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Problem is the "championship level" has moved on so far its on a different level to what we expected. This is proven by the likes of Brentford coming to our place a terrorising us. We need to make a change at the helm now or consolidate take our medicine and rebuild. Biggest worry is defensively we are abysmal. That's saying something that that's a bigger worry than our zero creativity Quote
gonzo Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Even he can't win the headers and then be the one running onto them. For all his improvement the lad couldn't finish his tea. There's more to being a target man than winning headers. He's numb as a piss stone. Quote
enzo gambaro Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Problem is the "championship level" has moved on so far its on a different level to what we expected.I don't think that's true. It hasn't surprised me, and I doubt it has surprised Ken or Parky. Quote
bolton va va Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Think Madine looks like our only championship standard player at the moment! Agreed, but even as a big Madine supporter I'd say he's only an average championship player & none of the promotion chasing sides would be interested in him. Saturday was a shock for me in that I thought that Brentford were a team that we could compete with, but I don't think that our players - under any manager - could match the football that they played in the 2nd half & we had no players who Brentford would want to sign !! As said, we can only play with 1 upfront & fill the midfield......trying to match the way better.stronger & faster players play is suicidal. Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Problem is the "championship level" has moved on so far its on a different level to what we expected. This is proven by the likes of Brentford coming to our place a terrorising us. We need to make a change at the helm now or consolidate take our medicine and rebuild. Biggest worry is defensively we are abysmal. That's saying something that that's a bigger worry than our zero creativity Nah, Brentford were a class above us 2 seasons back. Its not a surprise to anyone. Our midfield is mostly where our problems lie. Brentford showed that on Saturday. We basically have no midfield and teams simply waltz through unchecked. It makes the defence look far worse than it might with some protection. Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 but brentford havent won all season and have sold many of their better players theyre still better than us, though Quote
radcliffe white Posted September 25, 2017 Author Posted September 25, 2017 Nah, Brentford were a class above us 2 seasons back. Its not a surprise to anyone. Our midfield is mostly where our problems lie. Brentford showed that on Saturday. We basically have no midfield and teams simply waltz through unchecked. It makes the defence look far worse than it might with some protection. but teams going through the middle hasn't been the case all season Hull we gifted 3 goals by getting caught in possession Middlesbrough,Derby and Leeds defender losing his marker for free headers But you are right midfield is the problem but as we touched yesterday he signed 4 wingers himself Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 the best suggestion anybody has come up with for the player we need is playing for bury who are bottom of the league below Quote
radcliffe white Posted September 25, 2017 Author Posted September 25, 2017 the best suggestion anybody has come up with for the player we need is playing for bury who are bottom of the league belowthe player who has been out with ligament damage, so your point is invalid really Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 indeed it is thats the sort of thing only a manc would know but the fact that he ended up at bury isnt the sort of player we need doesn't grow on trees tbf, we did seem to be neglecting centre midfield in the summer, but i dont think anybody thought we couldnt stick something reasonable on the pitch from karacan, vela, cullen and pratley and derik Quote
radcliffe white Posted September 25, 2017 Author Posted September 25, 2017 indeed it is thats the sort of thing only a manc would know but the fact that he ended up at bury isnt the sort of player we need doesn't grow on trees tbf, we did seem to be neglecting centre midfield in the summer, but i dont think anybody thought we couldnt stick something reasonable on the pitch from karacan, vela, cullen and pratley and derik it was an example pal, not asking for the next viera Free transfer wages wouldn't have been mega and a player who can break play up don't tell me all he could find was attacking midfielders Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 it was an example pal, not asking for the next viera Free transfer wages wouldn't have been mega and a player who can break play up don't tell me all he could find was attacking midfielders tbh, im surprised we didnt get him especially as hes crocked and lets be honest, looking good against our midfield probably isnt difficult look what bristol rovers did to us if they had finished like brenford, that wouldve been 5 Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Has Burke played in midfield? if it was up to me, he would be fcuking finding out about it quick sharp but if hes going to dive in like he did on saturday, that wont work i think burkes a good case in point about what confidence does looked fine when we got him he looked like bobby moore first 20 minutes on saturday, ended up looking more bobby ball Quote
Traf Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Has Burke played in midfield? No, neither has his mate Cullen by the looks of it Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Didn't we try Burke in midfield already? Quote
Kane57 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 Didn't we try Burke in midfield already? I think so. Huge success judging by previous comments Quote
Guest Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I'd like to see Cullen play. Keep wondering why he's not involved every week. Quote
CMW Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 the best suggestion anybody has come up with for the player we need is playing for bury who are bottom of the league below2 options current free agents. Diagorouga -ex Leeds and Mulumbu -ex WBA. However I suspect we can't afford their wages despite them currently earning £0 per week. It would seem players have a certain pay expectations which if not met then they aren't going to bother Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 sad dayt, mate i think you're spot on spearing is obviously in no rush to take whatever is offered - be it by us or bury Quote
Marc505 Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I see Burke has "liked" a tweet responding to an LOV article about why him and Cullen should be sent back to West Ham. Happy camp. Quote
Casino Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I see Burke has "liked" a tweet responding to an LOV article about why him and Cullen should be sent back to West Ham. Happy camp. i cant see it but that might be cos i dont really do twitter Quote
jayjayoghani Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I see Burke has "liked" a tweet responding to an LOV article about why him and Cullen should be sent back to West Ham. Happy camp. Let's hope Luke Skywalker in charge of his account Quote
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