snowball Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, bwfcfan5 said: Bet your head is beetroot purple with rage right now. It’s July. We have 5 players. What did anyone seriously think would happen? I’m sure if FV had taken over weeks ago they would have changed. But now it’s got so late that it makes sense to use Parky’s experience and football know how and see what happens. I can see why they would keep him. Convenience - too many other things to sort out. Fair enough but not for me. Oztumer (team of the year last time in this league) might as well back his bags as well. So i will be a shit fan and leave it to super Parky Fan 5 which is about as many as there will be left. Fresh start has got to be fresh start until it is ive had enough. And Megson was a doddle compared to this
bwfc2003 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Since when do we tale everything that wanker Nixon writes as gospel - wasnt he telling us Bassini was taking over not long ago, and various other untruths
Big E Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: He’s won promotion from league one twice. And league two once. He’s kept sides up. His record is better than most managers in league one. So yes. If you engage your brain he has know how and experience. You may disagree with him. But as far as we know FV don’t have football knowledge. They need people who do and I suspect it’s too late for them to find someone. Like I say the decision can be changed once things start to pan out. The man nearly fucked up automatic promotion and avoided relegation by luck last time out. The football is dire and it won’t get folk in. It works for me. I will work weekends instead
RoadRunnerFan Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 14 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Bet your head is beetroot purple This is not that kind of site chief.
Boby Brno Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sluffy said: Aldridge (who would know better than anyone else where the bodies were buried - if there were bodies to be buried in the first place - are!) Who do you think dug the holes?
Matthew1234 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) Good to have a clearer idea of manager. Suspect FV just giving Parkinson time given the short space till beginning of the season. Got us promoted, kept us up and then when people didn't get paid we were relegated. Hardly the worst manager we've ever had. Based on his record he could walk into another L1 club. No question. Looking forward to the fans who refuse to come while he's manager, coming back if we win a few games. I do wonder if we actually changed manager whether the loyalty would be unquestionable, even if we were bottom of the league losing every week. Of course it would...🤷♂️ Edited July 3, 2019 by Matthew1234
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Another pick and choose, IF he was to stay. If they want cash up front, then a new manager would yield that. A bloody big gamble keeping him, and for what, he's got some experience?
Mounts Kipper Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) I’m in favour of a change but to change now is wrong in my opinion, we have no time to get a new manager in and sort a squad as it is let alone sack pp and then spend a week or 2 looking for the next manager, I’d give him until Xmas and review it then. Edited July 3, 2019 by Mounts Kipper
Duck Egg Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said: I'm no fan of Parky football, but as others have said there's no time to bin him and have a team ready for the start of the season. What he has got is a good record at this level, so if that's keeping us in League 1 or (I wish) competing for a play off place, that will be job done for now. If it goes pear shaped early he will be potted. Regardless of the football I think he deserves respect for how he has behaved through all this crap. Until the players strike he held the club together. I'll be renewing as usual. Is where I'm at. I don't think he'll see the season out though
birch-chorley Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 (edited) My issue with keeping Parky is player recruitment If your keeping him then you need to back him with a squad full of players who play to his negative style But then you might as well commit to Parky for a year or two as you have signed players to fit that style If it’s going pear shaped and a new manager comes in with a more progressive style, wanting to knock the ball about and have a go, then we have an issue that he’s got to work with a Parky squad Or do what Ken did and sign players to play a more progressive style then let Parky bomb them out I suppose but that’s a waste of precious resources With only 5 players on the books I’d say it’s the perfect time for a new man, why on earth would it be better in November once Parky has signed 20 new players? (if we are floundering of course) Edited July 3, 2019 by birch-chorley
Matthew1234 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Think Oztumer was pretty fair in his assessment. Parkinson did bring him in, it wasn't working, so we went more direct. I don't necessarily agree with it, but at least we can see the rationale. In League 1 I think we can expect Oztumer to be a starter. We played some great stuff last time out in league 1 at times, especially when Vela was CAM in behind Madine. People are hung up on the season just gone, and I get it, but Parky has shown he's capable in this league. There isn't much time till the season starts, so fingers crossed he can get it right.
tomski Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Very disappointed if true. On plus side Nicko told me Emerson Jones and Bassini were looking to buy the club and a little bit of me hopes he may be stirring after a tough week for him. if true I think FV are committing financial suicide as I know a fair few regulars who are saying they won’t go. sad stuff all round except the traffic should be better for the rest of us😂
RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 I'm all for a fresh start & a clear out from top to bottom but if FV decide to keep Parky on then he should get our full support. Hopefully with last seasons soap opera behind us & being in a lower division PP will try to set up to play a bit of football ( I'm not hopeful though), but to be honest I reckon he will be only one result/poor performance from a dogs abuse & that will quickly seep through to the players.
Matthew1234 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: I'm all for a fresh start & a clear out from top to bottom but if FV decide to keep Parky on then he should get our full support. Hopefully with last seasons soap opera behind us & being in a lower division PP will try to set up to play a bit of football ( I'm not hopeful though), but to be honest I reckon he will be only one result/poor performance from a dogs abuse & that will quickly seep through to the players. In one
Marc505 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, tomski said: Very disappointed if true. On plus side Nicko told me Emerson Jones and Bassini were looking to buy the club and a little bit of me hopes he may be stirring after a tough week for him. if true I think FV are committing financial suicide as I know a fair few regulars who are saying they won’t go. sad stuff all round except the traffic should be better for the rest of us😂 Nixon has had the biggest bite he's had for a long time, looking at that tweet.
Jeebster Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: Think Oztumer was pretty fair in his assessment. Parkinson did bring him in, it wasn't working, so we went more direct. I don't necessarily agree with it, but at least we can see the rationale. In League 1 I think we can expect Oztumer to be a starter. We played some great stuff last time out in league 1 at times, especially when Vela was CAM in behind Madine. People are hung up on the season just gone, and I get it, but Parky has shown he's capable in this league. There isn't much time till the season starts, so fingers crossed he can get it right. Played some great stuff last time in League 1....seriously ?, please refresh my mind, in how many games exactly was it in more than 2 or 3 games out of 46 with a team / squad much better than the majority in the division. Supporters defending Parkinson's football, sure they are entitled as is everyone else, but do they attend games pissed or blind folded ?...the football has been absolutely fcuking dire under PP, whoever wants to continue paying good money to watch the absolute shite on display week in week out good luck to you, enjoy having a row to yourselves.
radcliffe white Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jeebster said: Played some great stuff last time in League 1....seriously ?, please refresh my mind, in how many games exactly was it in more than 2 or 3 games out of 46 with a team / squad much better than the majority in the division. Supporters defending Parkinson's football, sure they are entitled as is everyone else, but do they attend games pissed or blind folded ?...the football has been absolutely fcuking dire under PP, whoever wants to continue paying good money to watch the absolute shite on display week in week out good luck to you, enjoy having a row to yourselves. There was some dross served up let’s not forget that
Sluffy Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Boby Brno said: Who do you think dug the holes? It's pretty clear that Aldridge has been working closely with the Administrator and the forensic accountants. If he had anything to hide he would have either confessed by now or been found out by the accountants wouldn't you think? He had a good reputation when he joined the club and those sort of people put more value in keeping their reputation than keeping a job - you can always get another job but once you've lost your reputation you never get it back. Seems FV are certainly keen to get him on board - Iles saying he will help them out - Nixon saying they are offering him a job - does it seem likely they would do that if he's help fuck the club over? Aldridge would know as much about Anderson's running of the club as anyone there is and if he has been tainted by associations or actions to even a fraction of the stuff that Andersons supposed to have done do you really think anyone would touch him with a bargepole again, let alone offer him presumably a senior post at a club he's apparently helped the last owner to thoroughly rape and pillage? It wouldn't make any sense would it? Seems to me that the people that matter believe he's kept his honesty and integrity throughout, even if you believe differently.
Tombwfc Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Sluffy - That's more than one word. Anyway, back in 2019 and on planet Earth... 46 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Time to get a manager and sign a squad? Given none of it can start till next week at earliest - if change of control isn’t happening till then as is suggested in BN today. Just seems unrealistic to me. FV will already be planning on lists of targets. They need advice to do that. Advice from the manager. If they are changing in reality it puts things back. Way back when, FV were said to have got as far as having Mark Warburton and David Weir lined up to replace Parky. Now, Warburton has gone to QPR, but they've had two or three weeks as the preferred bidder where they could've sounded out and discussed targets with a new manager. Or given David Lee the nod to start reading up on transfermarkt.com. As you've said, building a team of free agents to be competitive is going to be hard enough, and with Parky we know that he's going to play shit football and things will turn toxic the second we lose a game. It's just got sacked in November written all over it.
Matthew1234 Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Jeebster said: Played some great stuff last time in League 1....seriously ?, please refresh my mind, in how many games exactly was it in more than 2 or 3 games out of 46 with a team / squad much better than the majority in the division. Supporters defending Parkinson's football, sure they are entitled as is everyone else, but do they attend games pissed or blind folded ?...the football has been absolutely fcuking dire under PP, whoever wants to continue paying good money to watch the absolute shite on display week in week out good luck to you, enjoy having a row to yourselves. Like you say - can have our own opinion. Some games in L1 were pretty bad in terms of style of play, Bradford away sticks out. There were a number of decent showings though, this one wasn't so bad: My own opinion is people get too over drawn on style of play. Playing passing football isn't synonymous with winning football. I remember when everyone clamoured for Coyle post Megson, and then the minute things went poor, the style of play was forgotten and he was hounded out. If we are winning games, who cares. I'd rather watch a winning team than one that passes a lot and achieves nothing.
Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: My issue with keeping Parky is player recruitment If your keeping him then you need to back him with a squad full of players who play to his negative style But then you might as well commit to Parky for a year or two as you have signed players to fit that style If it’s going pear shaped and a new manager comes in with a more progressive style, wanting to knock the ball about and have a go, then we have an issue that he’s got to work with a Parky squad Or do what Ken did and sign players to play a more progressive style then let Parky bomb them out I suppose but that’s a waste of precious resources With only 5 players on the books I’d say it’s the perfect time for a new man, why on earth would it be better in November once Parky has signed 20 new players? (if we are floundering of course) Agree totally. If we are going to change, do so now. No point building one squad, with very limited funds and scope, only to expect a new chap to carry on with it. A new mon now will have more patience from fans and team backing.
radcliffe white Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Matthew1234 said: Like you say - can have our own opinion. Some games in L1 were pretty bad in terms of style of play, Bradford away sticks out. There were a number of decent showings though, this one wasn't so bad: My own opinion is people get too over drawn on style of play. Playing passing football isn't synonymous with winning football. I remember when everyone clamoured for Coyle post Megson, and then the minute things went poor, the style of play was forgotten and he was hounded out. If we are winning games, who cares. I'd rather watch a winning team than one that passes a lot and achieves nothing. Find the highlights of chesterfield home & away, Rochdale Oldham away, and numerous dire home games
Guest Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Tombwfc said: Sluffy - That's more than one word. Anyway, back in 2019 and on planet Earth... Way back when, FV were said to have got as far as having Mark Warburton and David Weir lined up to replace Parky. Now, Warburton has gone to QPR, but they've had two or three weeks as the preferred bidder where they could've sounded out and discussed targets with a new manager. Or given David Lee the nod to start reading up on transfermarkt.com. As you've said, building a team of free agents to be competitive is going to be hard enough, and with Parky we know that he's going to play shit football and things will turn toxic the second we lose a game. It's just got sacked in November written all over it. Warburton was never involved beyond advising Basran who we know now is no longer involved... David Lee with an inexperienced board? Sounds a bit risky to me. And as for toxicity this is going to be a tough season. Need the fans behind the club regardless. Just got to get on with it. Won’t be pretty regardless.
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